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Cray
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Question on 6T WBS tek..
#4804678 - 10/14/05 07:09 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, I got a couple of questions here.
If I don't have a 15PSI weight for my PC, can I use 10psi? If so, how much longer should I use it for?
In the tek it uses pint, quart jars, I have 1/2 pint is that ok?
Thanks, Cray
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Holydiver
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4804742 - 10/14/05 07:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can do WBS in 1/2 pint jars in a jam, but it's a lot of work. 10 PSI works fine, p.c. for 1 hr 15 mins.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Holydiver]
#4804756 - 10/14/05 07:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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how is it a lot of work?
btw, did you use to be 'Driver'?
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HippieChick
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4804770 - 10/14/05 07:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's basically 4 times the work. Quart is equal to 4 1/2 pints. Hence, 4 times as many jars for the same amount of spawn.
Yes, he used to be, and always will be, Driver, I mean Diver,lol, to me.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: HippieChick]
#4804805 - 10/14/05 07:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol, I was originally Holydiver. Then I was diver, and now I'm back to my original screen name. So I wasn't, I was, and now I'm not. But yeah, it's me.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: HippieChick]
#4804823 - 10/14/05 07:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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oops I mean Diver, sorry long day...
alright, looks like I'm stuck with 1/2 pints, all I got...
And 10 psi will work? Thanks!
Hippi and Diver, you remember me?
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4804825 - 10/14/05 07:53 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course I do. You pop in now and then and post gigantic pics, how can I forget? I do like the pics though. 10 PSI works fine, it's all I used for my first year.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Holydiver]
#4804949 - 10/14/05 08:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Holydiver said: Lol, I was originally Holydiver. Then I was diver, and now I'm back to my original screen name. So I wasn't, I was, and now I'm not. But yeah, it's me.
So what? lol
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4805028 - 10/14/05 08:55 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since I wrote that tek, I guess I should give you an answer. If you didn't know 6T is agar - from another life.
Quarts are your best bet. Less work - as others have pointed out. With a 10 psi PC, just bump up your PC times around 15 - 20%.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: agar]
#4805102 - 10/14/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agar...you are mushroom god...
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deanofmean
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: agar]
#4805139 - 10/14/05 09:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agar,
About your aviator.
I wouldn't like that nasty thing in my mouth either.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: total]
#4805695 - 10/14/05 11:21 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
total said: Agar...you are mushroom god...
If that were the case, I would have ANTI - CONTAMINATE fairy dust to sprinkle around. Sadly, that is not the case. Just a journeyman - am I.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: deanofmean]
#4805898 - 10/15/05 12:08 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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dean,
you got ants in your pants bro?
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4805914 - 10/15/05 12:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yup. Sure do . Was wondering what happened to ya ?
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: deanofmean]
#4806485 - 10/15/05 03:41 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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deanofmean said: Agar,
About your aviator.
I wouldn't like that nasty thing in my mouth either.
agar is not a guy kinda guy.
LOL, more than one women has reached multiple climax's from agar's clitilator.
Now - you got me in trouble. G/F is now nibbling my ear & wanting some of that.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: agar]
#4806744 - 10/15/05 09:14 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks agar,
But all I have is 1/2 pints. Is this okay, am I gunna have problems in the long run, like contam, growth stops? Thanks.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4806771 - 10/15/05 09:26 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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my name isn't agar...but I'll answer your question.
the problem with using 1/2 pints for WBS is... you can't shake the jars...so you pretty much have to let it colonize without shaking. and this might take alot longer...or it might not completely colonize.
plus 1/2 pints of WBS is not very much spawn.
You would be much better off using Pints or Quart jars.
tc
-------------------- Laterz, Road Who the hell you callin crazy? You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch! Brainiac said: PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4806772 - 10/15/05 09:27 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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also another question, You add the coffee filter, When you get done PCin them do take off the top coffee filter or leave it on?
And it's still 1cc's for every 1/2 pint correct?
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4806776 - 10/15/05 09:31 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, Road!!
Well, I do have some Pint jars but the mouths arn't Tapered. I don't have the money right now to get new jars... Is this okay? It's just when it's done colonizing just chop it up in the jar and spawn it?
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4806782 - 10/15/05 09:34 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cray said:
Well, I do have some Pint jars but the mouths arn't Tapered. I don't have the money right now to get new jars... Is this okay? It's just when it's done colonizing just chop it up in the jar and spawn it?
Yes!~
those will work!~
and yes you would just sterilize a spoon or something and spoon it out of the jar...then use it as spawn.
its gonna be all broken up anyway...when you use it as spawn.
tc
-------------------- Laterz, Road Who the hell you callin crazy? You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch! Brainiac said: PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Roadkill]
#4806795 - 10/15/05 09:42 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks road! Your always helpful,
How many cc's in each pint?
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4806803 - 10/15/05 09:47 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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1 cc should be fine for a Pint jar.
tc
-------------------- Laterz, Road Who the hell you callin crazy? You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch! Brainiac said: PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Roadkill]
#4806818 - 10/15/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry, I keep having to ask quesion I don't wanna mess up...
I'm barrowing a PC from a friend, will I need a PC any more after I sterlize the jars?
Also, on the 6T WBS tek, it uses filters... You add 2 filters 1 under the lid and 1 on top of the ring, thing is when I go to put the spores in, I'm gunna be poking holes in the filter... what I do after I put the spores in? Put another filter on top to cover the holes? Thanks...
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4807044 - 10/15/05 11:14 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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agar does his filters and lids different...than I do.
-------------------- Laterz, Road Who the hell you callin crazy? You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch! Brainiac said: PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Roadkill]
#4807350 - 10/15/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok, how do you do it?
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4807357 - 10/15/05 12:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also I bought the WBS is this the right kind?
Thanks, Cray
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4808954 - 10/15/05 08:56 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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so is that the right bag?
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Cray]
#4809531 - 10/16/05 12:02 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cray said:
ok, how do you do it?
I use these lids...
I put a tyvek home made filter over the jar lid... then thread the lid on(the above lid)to the jar. The round band aid isn't there yet..by the way. I keep the hole that the band aid is covering taped with masking tape until after I'm done pressure cooking the jar. I cover the lid with Alum foil. Then pressure cook the jars.
Example...of jars after pressure cooking with the masking tape still on.
After pressure cooking the jars... I pull the tape off the one hole...and put the band aid on to cover the hole. You can also use micropore tape instead of the band aid. Wipe the injection port in the center of the lid with some Alcohol to sterilize it. Then you just inject into the injection port in the center of the lid.
It might sound complicated...but its really easy.
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About the bird seed that you have posted...
I haven't seen that brand.
Just make sure that it doesn't have any fungicides in it to kill off fungi.
So read the labels on the bag.
tc
-------------------- Laterz, Road Who the hell you callin crazy? You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch! Brainiac said: PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.
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HippieChick
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Roadkill]
#4809942 - 10/16/05 02:05 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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^^^^^ ^^^^^
Those are great . Especially for LC's. Thanks for the vacutainers I've put them to use myself,lol. Pretty much the same way you did , thanks again,lol.
I used a tip from Agar for gas exchange. 1/4" windshield wiper hose,$.79 a foot , stuffed with poly-fil. I put the injection port towards the outer edge. I use this for LC's. When it gets to the bottom, I tilt the jar and can get every last drop.
Thanks again Bro. These things are great .
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: HippieChick]
#4810102 - 10/16/05 03:37 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL, those vacutainers sure get around........grin.
I don't spill or lose a drop of LC - either.
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HippieChick
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: agar]
#4810116 - 10/16/05 03:59 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure do
You didn't send him enough though, I was only able to get 10,lol.
You know where to send em,lol. I'll send you a pic You feeling better Sure you can handle one
I've tried both,
I like the vacutainer better. Didn't like messing with the poly-fil when drawing a syringe. Plus I do a lot in the open air.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: HippieChick]
#4810128 - 10/16/05 04:09 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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How many you need. Have two....1K unopened cases - besides this open one.
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: agar]
#4810193 - 10/16/05 07:22 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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^Those are sexy indeed^ Do you have a good online source agar? Searches on ebay turn up vacutainer holders, but that's about it.
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Cray
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Re: Question on 6T WBS tek.. [Re: Holydiver]
#4810321 - 10/16/05 09:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, I looked all over the bag to see if it had any fungisid added, and I don't see anything... so I guess it doesn't?
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