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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: bukkake]
    #4794833 - 10/12/05 07:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Since everyone would do just dandy in an anarchic system? I bet you'd be pissed when someone decided they were stronger than you and took your property for themselves.


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: looner2]
    #4794834 - 10/12/05 07:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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lol @ poverty and capitalism




Europes socialism is doing great right about now. It didn't do so bad after the war however, but then again our capitalist system literally gave them the money to build their welfare states.



Fortunately, 3/4's of Americans believe in universal healthcare and improved social infrastructures. Unfortunately, our government does not care about what the majority of Americans believe in.

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I bet you'd be pissed when someone decided they were stronger than you and took your property for themselves.



I would if I was obsessed with land masses and slabs of concrete on the Earth.


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: bukkake]
    #4794857 - 10/12/05 07:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

By property, I meant you personal belongings. When you were forced out of your house and had all of you personal items taken from you, I bet you wouldn't be too happy.


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: wilshire]
    #4794862 - 10/12/05 07:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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i took the political compass quiz today and i was just a tad to the left on the economic scale.  :shocked:



I thought something was up when I brought up one of Karl Marx's ideas in a thread you made in S&P and you actually agreed with him.  I was chuckling to myself: "Haw haw, mushmaster's a commie!" :wink:


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: Redstorm]
    #4794876 - 10/12/05 07:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't in our current capitalist, individualistic society. That would be counter-productive to my own being.


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: bukkake]
    #4794881 - 10/12/05 07:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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No, that would be the Republicrats(one party posing as two).




Who would quell the riots caused by the USLP's social darwinist domestic policies after they radically downsize the military and police forces?



No one would have to, cuz the current underclass would be too busy becoming successful entrepreneurs when drugs, gambling, and prostitution are legalized and income taxes and corporate welfare are abolished.


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: bukkake]
    #4794884 - 10/12/05 07:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I wouldn't in our current capitalist, individualistic society. That would be counter-productive to my own being.




Huh?

I thought we were talking about your utopian system of anarchy?


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: bukkake]
    #4794901 - 10/12/05 07:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Fortunately, 3/4's of Americans believe in universal healthcare and improved social infrastructures. Unfortunately, our government does not care about what the majority of Americans believe in.



Just curious: How can one be an anarchist while supporting state-run health care? How would you expect health care to be run in your ideal anarchist society where the state doesn't exist?


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: Redstorm]
    #4794916 - 10/12/05 07:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not a materialistic person, so I would not much care. Perhaps similiar to the way tribal society worked for Native Americans for thousands(?) of years. They were quite apathetic showering their eventual murderers and invaders with goods, no?

There is an abundance of agriculture and necessities in the world without needing to murder, rape, and beat each other over materials.


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Re: I think I might finally become a Libertarian [Re: Silversoul]
    #4794972 - 10/12/05 08:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just curious: How can one be an anarchist while supporting state-run health care? How would you expect health care to be run in your ideal anarchist society where the state doesn't exist?



I support state-run health care under current societal standards. Everyone should be able to receive free health care, free education; they pay taxes. Of course, they aren't given these "perverse" socialist luxuries many people in PAL dislike. At least, in America we don't have this. Every other industrialized country has some form of universal health coverage. Someone can correct that.

I'd expect it done similiar to the way shamanism was many years ago, but we're medically/technologically advanced enough that we do not need something as primitive as "spirits", herbs and etheonogens for medicines. A skillful worker such as a doctor. Assorted jobs for assorted individuals by their own choice.

If anyone would like to continue this, create another thread. I always feel dirty using someone else's thread to go on an off-topic debate.


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