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Offlineleery11
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How have drugs changed your life?
    #4784423 - 10/10/05 07:28 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I always hear "It's a life changing experience" "It changed my life forever." etc, etc... when people talk about their trips.

How so? Could you trip once, never trip again the rest of your life, and be a markedly different person? If so, in what way? Is the change truely permanent?

What have these drugs done for you that is so substantial as to be forever altering?

I can say that pot has changed my life, but not in a WOW I'M IN TUNE WITH THE UNIVERSE AND NEVER NEED TO DO DRUGS AGAIN kind of way. All it's done is taught me about the world, about people, about television, and myself.

I'm probably glad I have the insights but I don't look back on it and go "yeah, it changed my life man! go smoke up now!" it's not *really* like that.

Of course it's not really a "hallucinagen" entirely, either.

Tell me how drugs have changed your life, and how significantly so. And which ones.
*actually I take some of this back, just yesterday I learned (supposedly) how memories are structured into dreams through mental association by watching Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind while high..... Kaufman really did an excellent job with that film...... and it was a real interesting insight. I also learned how people share themselves based upon the tone of their voice while speaking.....

but these kinds of things that you "learn" while high are pretty hard to apply to non-high living.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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OfflineWeAreAllOne
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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: leery11]
    #4784435 - 10/10/05 07:30 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

my recent salvia experience hasn't taught me anything in particular i wouldn't say.

She has showed me not to trust what i see.
something you see can be different to someone else.
take nothing for granted.

walk in wonder.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: leery11]
    #4784570 - 10/10/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, through my heavy drug use over the past 5 years (mdma, mda, 2cb, mushrooms, lsd, lsa, pcp (accident), dxm, and the list goes on and on) there has been many life changing experiences. I have seen myself be many many different people, like they say psychedelics have the potential to knock you out of your pre-conditioned state. LSA was the one that effected me the most profoundly, made me realize that perceptions, opinions and individuality are nonsense.

One certain experience I had actually made me quit everything for quite a long time because honestly I could not have felt any better in my day to day life with the realization I received from that experience, so i believe it is very possible for that to happen to someone.

BTW, that movie kicks ass  :thumbup:


Edited by BobJizze (10/10/05 07:56 PM)


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: BobJizze]
    #4784744 - 10/10/05 08:37 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

One of the biggest differences when I started doing shrooms was getting to know myself a LOT better, which in turn gave me a much needed boost in confidence, and actualy motivated me to start taking my health into consideration. That was the biggest change. Everytime I trip I learn something new, whether it be about myself, other people, life, etc.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: StickyWater]
    #4784937 - 10/10/05 09:18 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I would say I learn from my trips also. It clarified some of my beleifs about religon.

I saw a beautiful life and world and that motivated me to take better care of myself thru diet and everyday life.

Tripping has made me fall in love with nature and life itself. It is a beautiful thing.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: peeper]
    #4785002 - 10/10/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

peeper said:
I would say I learn from my trips also. It clarified some of my beleifs about religon.

I saw a beautiful life and world and that motivated me to take better care of myself thru diet and everyday life.

Tripping has made me fall in love with nature and life itself. It is a beautiful thing.



indeed.

tripping has taught me to look past the bullshit in life, to discover what it is REALLY all about. im still discovering and searching for what life truly has to offer, but tripping has deffenitly kick started my interest and passion for living/life. before i picked up my smoking habit and love for mushrooms i was completely unmotivated and i guess you could say "hiding" from the world.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: king_cobra]
    #4785489 - 10/10/05 11:17 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

My first trip was still my best trip. It changed me in many ways. My life at the time was a mess, i was not very happy with anything. Not a good outlook going into the trip. My friend got a couple of liquid geltabs, and asked me to partake. Pyschedelia was always an interest of mine, so i decided WTF. Once i heard music while tripping i thought had found the potential of the human race. i could recognize beauty. It taught me to stop and smell the flowers quite literally. It taught me to be myself, and live life the way i wanted to live life: truthful and free. It also made me want more LSD...hehe.

My last very strong shroom trip i started thinking about animal suffering for some reason and became a vegan. Though i was an unremorseful carnivore before, i haven't touched meat or dairy since that trip 2 years ago...LIFE CHANGING


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: leery11]
    #4785594 - 10/10/05 11:38 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Pot: Got me questioning society and conformity. Was crucial to my identity formation in High School.

Ecstacy: Taught me to be more open and expressive. Helped break me of some of my more introverted tendencies.

Mushrooms: Have been very therapeutic. Help put things in perspective for me when things are going bad in my life.

LSD: Has given me some great philosophical insights. Helped me realize that I needed a change in my life.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4785715 - 10/11/05 12:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

i cannot know because i have no idea how my life would have turned out had i not used them. im sure it would be a lot different but i dont know in what ways.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: Deviate]
    #4785799 - 10/11/05 12:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

You said it king_cobra.:peace:


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: chadwick]
    #4785877 - 10/11/05 12:56 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

drugs ... man. i use em to break free of the monotony of everyday life. Make life more interesting.

Drugs actually gave me a big case of humility i never had before.
lots of ups and downs believe me.


.... long pause in thought.....


Drugs are the only education we have left!


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: Deviate]
    #4785900 - 10/11/05 01:02 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I cANT smoke pot or drink caffein any more, to start(most of the time),Though I used to smoke pot for years like a regulare rasta and drank coffee occasionally. I cant eat hallucinogens and I stay away from aspartame. Im too damn smart and observant than is for my own good. I occasionally drink to destroy some synaptic activity and brain cells in order to vicariously, find some sembalence of self that I had before I did heavy doses of lsd, lsd, mescaline, lsd, lsa, lsa , dxm, mushrooms, more shrooms and then lastly, ayahuasca(the most potent of all)for five years.
I could get far more elaborate, but this still says something. I still have more respect for this lifestyle than any other besides that of many 4th world tribes, and wish I could keep documenting the secrets. I grew tired, my brain insisted that I stop learning cause I learned too fast and thats I why I see visuals, patterns, music differently that anyone Ive ever met, every day, and for the rest of my life. I picked up a guitar one day in the infancy of my 6 years of use, and still could learn any song by ear on any inturement around the third time I messed with any foreign sound spewing devise. 6 years later, though it started with the guitar, I can play the trumpet, sax, piano, bass, marimba, any stringed inturement such as the banjo, synth loops(keys), drums, and the best conga drumming, comprable to any professional african drum master.
Thats not proof, its just helped me in a way that it doesnt for most people. These inturmental capabilities were all self taught and there is no reason a senior in high school should be able to teach him self to play any dead song (even solos)on the guitar after listening to them one time. Ive learned that It is hard to teach this method of discovering music much like it was always hard to teach people of the secrets of psychadelic use, although people asked me as time wore on. I have one freind that was in the same boat with me and I couldnt have learned the secrets so fast it werent for him. If id had no confidence in the reality of those things which I hold to be secret Id be lost(without him). I taught him, my best friend how to play the bass, and Ive scared the crap out of him many times, yet he is always there to show me a thing or two. My best friend "happened" because we were special, and both liked hallucinogens. We could have been good friends, but not like it is today. He also had his last experience ever about one year ago, on 5 grams of homegrowns,(like I said, we were very fragile and always tripped alone about 2 years onto it).
I wouldnt be a musician like I am now, and I wouldnt be the visual artist I am now. I wouldnt have the problems I do now, I wouldnt know the things I know and have the inspired capasity to speak about, and Id be more comforitable, almost certainly.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: stemmer]
    #4786261 - 10/11/05 05:54 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Cannabis in the past has helped me make a lot of new friends, intensified my train of thought and made me analyse things more (a bit too much in fact!). On the other hand, it also made me a paranoid unmotivated fool, and for me, the bad points ended up far outweighing the good and i stopped. I can say it definitely changed my life though. It was one of the first steps to becoming who i am today. I still like just a little smoke now and then for the fun of it, but in moderation.

MDMA has done nothing but wonderful things for me. It has helped me and my friends form bonds closer than most people will ever experience, even within their own family. MDMA use has helped me pull girls, made me countless new friends, opened my mind to many different cultres, made me appreciate new genres of music and introduced me to the rave scene, where i have discovered liberation, freedom and ecstasy i'd never even dreamed of through electronic music and dance. It's taught me not to give a shit about how i look on a dancefloor and just to get up there and have a good time while im still alive and breathing! It has given me increased empathy for other people and boosted my confidence in day to day life so much i really cannot even begin to explain it, making me a much happier person (although i like to think it hasn't made me arrogant!). And it helped me lose some weight! I am eternally greatful for everything this chemical has done for me... I just wish i could buy Alexander Shulgin a pint!

Mushrooms have changed my entire outlook on spirituality and all forms of life. Although i struggle to find the right words to explain how, i suspect most people here understand what i'm talking about! They have expanded my consciousness, kicked my ass, taught me to love and respect nature like it was my own mother and made me laugh until i can't get up off the floor.
And most importantly, they have lead me to the Shroomery! :smile: Where i can share thoughts and have deep, meaningful conversations with hundreds of open-minded, highly intelligent people from across the world on the subjects that mean something to me, like the thread you are reading this very moment.


And NOW i wanna do some drugs. :smirk:


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: swiftrance]
    #4786269 - 10/11/05 06:08 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

LSD changed my life back in 1988 when I was 19 years old, Ecstasy then did the same a year later...

Although I have not done LSD for about 10 years (have taken Shrooms though, but I don't think it's the same experience, still good, but different) I think about it every single day. Flashes of pure insight that are then gone as quickly as they came, ahh such sweet misery, if only I could catch those thoughts!


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: LuciferSam]
    #4786551 - 10/11/05 08:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

last shroom trip (about 9 months) i realized the importance of tolerance and the "golden rule", and i've been applying it to myself almost every day. i've become a lot more open minded, and its awesome. i'm a better person because of it.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: PinkFloydhawkeye]
    #4786766 - 10/11/05 10:15 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I have only done Mushrooms and smoked weed...Weed just changed my issues and what is more important to me...Mushrooms, there is a lot that can be said about mushrooms as all of us know. I'm still trying to figure it all out much as we all are and will until the day were gone. After each and every trip I've taken, I come down with an almost phillosopical understanding of things in life. They have showed me where my loves are and what things I need to cut out of my life, and each time they have helped me organize the disorganized life I live I guess.

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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: king_cobra]
    #4787555 - 10/11/05 02:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

king_cobra said:
Quote:

peeper said:
I would say I learn from my trips also. It clarified some of my beleifs about religon.

I saw a beautiful life and world and that motivated me to take better care of myself thru diet and everyday life.

Tripping has made me fall in love with nature and life itself. It is a beautiful thing.



indeed.

tripping has taught me to look past the bullshit in life, to discover what it is REALLY all about. im still discovering and searching for what life truly has to offer, but tripping has deffenitly kick started my interest and passion for living/life.




All of that is true for me as well, plus mushrooms cured me of my depression issues after one trip. I went through all the bullshit of doctors, and got put on meds which I refused to take b/c they made me feel blah. One 5 hour mushroom trip cured me outright. As for it being permanent, who knows, but in 4-5 years since my first trip it hasn't showed up again.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: sublime40oz]
    #4787598 - 10/11/05 02:12 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

well... I made this thread because i've never tripped on anything but LSA and it was more of a mind trip than a psychedelic trip (it told me to never ever smoke pot again, which i have disobeyed many times....). I guess that drug in particular could teach me a lot more though...

but I'm just in a rut questioning whether or not drug use is really an acceptable path for self growth, or if it leads to dependence and burning out.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: leery11]
    #4787612 - 10/11/05 02:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

^^That will largely depend on your substance of choice. You can't just pop a drug and hope things will work out for you either, or that you will gain any type of noticeable difference in yourself. I think the drug just allows your mind to freely and objectively navigate problems and or life philosophies. Your mind will ultimately be what causes the change but I have found drugs (mushrooms in particular) to be an excellent catalyst to this change.


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Re: How have drugs changed your life? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4788085 - 10/11/05 04:35 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Paradigm said:
Pot:  Got me questioning society and conformity.  Was crucial to my identity formation in High School.





You read my mind  :thumbup: :heart: :mushroom2: :smile:


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