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InvisibleCosmicJokeM
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mandala ghost
    #4784279 - 10/10/05 09:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

while making a road trip to cleveland for the weekend i stopped by city hall to watch the dismantling of a sand mandala and its deopositing into the great lake.
couldn't help but chuckle as flashes on cameras went off one after another, cheating this ritual esson of impermanence for a kodak moment.

on the flipside there's my one friend who will retain encyclopedic amounts of information about the given subject when doing the tourism trip, yet when i ask him for details and particulars of that particular mandala we just saw, he wouldn't have a thing to say.


ah well.....


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Invisibledblaney
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Re: mandala ghost [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #4784324 - 10/10/05 09:11 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Mandalas are amazing things...especially sand ones...they're very intricate. I wish I would be able to see one in person, you're privaleged. :thumbup:


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: dblaney]
    #4784351 - 10/10/05 09:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Even the photos will fade...


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: KungFu_Shaman]
    #4785955 - 10/11/05 03:19 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I was lucky enough to see Buddhist Tibetan refugees visit my university, and they spent a week giving talks and creating a beautiful sand mandala...

here are some pictures:








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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Blastrid]
    #4785959 - 10/11/05 03:20 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I heard once they create those amazingly beautiful and intricate mandalas that take weeks of painistaking detail and concentration.. they whisk them off the table in one motion to symbolize the cycle of nature.. life and death. Or something like that.


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Shroomism]
    #4785969 - 10/11/05 03:24 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Well they did destroy the mandala in a Saturday ceremony, with Buddhist chants and prayers, though I don't know exactly how the mandala was scattered...

But I do remember amidst the noise of their instruments that 'paint' the sand, they often chanted or clearly meditated. Half of the process is a meditation in the first place.


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Blastrid]
    #4785971 - 10/11/05 03:26 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

more than half of the process is in an area that is invisible
brushing it away indicates how minor the physical part of it is.


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Blastrid]
    #4787852 - 10/11/05 05:20 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

The monks 'dismantled' the mandala, they did not "destroy" it. The mandala exists first in the mind, and only secondly on the physical plane, where it is a 2-dimensional representations of a 3-dimensional 'abode' of deities. It was no doubt swept, from center to periphery (with Dorje in hand), where it was collected to be poured into the nearest body of running water. The whole dismantling of so beautiful and intricate creation is to emphasize impermanence.


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4788192 - 10/11/05 07:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I was once told by a monk that it absorbed negative emotions and was put in water to dispose of them safely due to the purifying nature of the water.


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4788751 - 10/11/05 09:31 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I'm sure that's true. Also, it is unwise to pour that much sand into houshold drains.  :wink:


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4791748 - 10/12/05 09:56 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

glad you're still around. :laugh:


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4795446 - 10/12/05 11:24 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i guess lake eerie has purified itself a lot of the years, but under that assertion i'd still have my reservations - could certainly see the intentionality in choosing city hall though


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: Teragon]
    #4795618 - 10/12/05 11:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, thanks!


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Re: mandala ghost [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4796067 - 10/13/05 01:16 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
The monks 'dismantled' the mandala, they did not "destroy" it.  The mandala exists first in the mind, and only secondly on the physical plane, where it is a  2-dimensional representations of a 3-dimensional 'abode' of deities. It was no doubt swept, from center to periphery (with Dorje in hand), where it was collected to be poured into the nearest body of running water. The whole dismantling of so beautiful and intricate creation is to emphasize impermanence.




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Re: mandala ghost [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #4796083 - 10/13/05 01:22 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I was down there a couple of weeks ago and saw it.  A lot more intricate than I could have realized without seeing it for myself.  Unfortunately the creators weren't there for me to talk with at the time.

Wish I knew they were dismantling it :frown:


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