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OfflineHblink99
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Potency Issues
    #4779416 - 10/09/05 10:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

So I grew some mushrooms on cased horse manure spawned with WBS. I had a decent layer of poo and everything seemed to go well but the mushrooms were pretty small and their potency wasnt great. I took around 2 grams and only had a good trip for a little over 2 hours. Is there anything like humidity or temperature that could cause something like this to happen? The stuff I grew on PF cakes a few months ago were almost better then these...and thats not good.

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Re: Potency Issues [Re: Hblink99]
    #4779482 - 10/09/05 10:23 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

what were your conditions when you were trying to fruit?

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Re: Potency Issues [Re: Mycophilic]
    #4779503 - 10/09/05 10:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

how deep was your sub? casing?

were the 2g wet or dry?

2 grams isn't that much, not for me anyway.

for a good trip i would take no less than 4g dry(40g wet).


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Re: Potency Issues [Re: Mycophilic]
    #4779529 - 10/09/05 10:29 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

The conditions were decent, It may have been a little too humid and warm but nothing really crazy.

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Re: Potency Issues [Re: Hblink99]
    #4779716 - 10/09/05 10:51 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

If you're continue to get not-so-potent mushrooms, consider trying this...

Because most pcilocybin is produced early in fruiting stage, harvesting a 1/2 to 3/4 mature mushroom is as/almost potent as a mature one and because it's only 1/2 mature, it's using half of your substrate nutes increasing your flushes....

Moral of the story, you'll get the same potentency shrooms, but you'll have more of them...


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Re: Potency Issues [Re: Hblink99]
    #4780467 - 10/10/05 01:18 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Hblink99 said:
I took around 2 grams and only had a good trip for a little over 2 hours.




So did you or didnt you have potent shrooms? You say you had a good trip for a little over 2 hours? Thats pretty much how long the experience lasts anyway.

You really have to look at the other factors - how long before had you taken shrooms as tolernace builds quickly; did you have much food in your stomach when you ate them; how did you dry them etc.

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jarroddupont said:
Because most pcilocybin is produced early in fruiting stage, harvesting a 1/2 to 3/4 mature mushroom is as/almost potent as a mature one and because it's only 1/2 mature, it's using half of your substrate nutes increasing your flushes....

Moral of the story, you'll get the same potentency shrooms, but you'll have more of them...




I don't necessarily agree with this - you wont necessarily get more flushes off them. Just let your shrooms mature, as the veil breaks pick em, this will give you the most weight at the end of the day. The best way to maximise your harvest is to just have some more jars colonising while your casing is flushing, after the third flush chuck it and case the next lof of jars, creating a cycle so you'll always have some mushrooms growing. Even better still is to have 2 fruiting chambers working in a cycle. :thumbup: :mushroom2:

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Re: Potency Issues [Re: _OttO_]
    #4780604 - 10/10/05 01:58 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Hblink99 said:
I took around 2 grams and only had a good trip for a little over 2 hours.







So did you or didnt you have potent shrooms? You say you had a good trip for a little over 2 hours? Thats pretty much how long the experience lasts anyway.

You really have to look at the other factors - how long before had you taken shrooms as tolernace builds quickly; did you have much food in your stomach when you ate them; how did you dry them etc.






Your trips only last two hours??? Thats ridiculous, my trips on an eigth will last anywhere from 4-10 hours, not all extremely intense but def. feeling things.


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Re: Potency Issues [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4780671 - 10/10/05 02:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I suppose I should've said the 'peak' of the experience lasts only a little over two hours, with trailing effects for another 2 or 3. Hblink99 said he had a 'good trip' for 2 hours, so doesnt sound like it was a complete loss, and my point was there are so many variables when dosing, you cant blame it point blank on the shrooms... especially if they were grown on horse poo.

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