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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Diploid]
#4772044 - 10/08/05 04:27 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Diploid said: And i don't think they're ignoring anything, i think they're covering it up
Two questions:
1. Are all other governments on Earth (including those that hate the US and would like nothing better than to expose our 'coverup') also covering things up?
2. What does the US government gain by coveirng up evidence of ET visitation other than lack of funding for ET research?
Can you give me direct answers to those two simple questions?
You want answers?? Who do you think I am, God? I don't have any answers for you, although I can give you some opinions. So take them for what they are.
1. No, not all governements are covering things up. For example, in France there has been a long history of governmental studies of UFOs, (GEPAN, then SEPRA, and today GEIPAN), The repeated conclusion is that among the investigated UFO cases, the evidence allows to put forward the hypothesis that there are flying machines directed by an intelligence with preformances far beyond anything conceivable in the current state of humain aeronautic technologies. These unexplained phenomena represent about 25% of all the cases studied. That's a significant number.
The cover-up of UFOs by the american government is obvious. Officially, the government has abandonned its researches on UFOs ever since the Condon project in 1969. Surprisingly, even though, in that study, 30% of the reported phenomena were completely unexplainable, the conclusion was that pursuit of UFO phenomenon represented no interests. There's a strange anomaly here between the study and the conclusion no? I think today the american investigation effort is by far the most intense in the world, to which they practice a policy of deliberate and intelligently orchestrated disinformation - total disinformation.
2. so why? why the disinformation, why the secrecy, in what goal? That's the big question. I think the answer to this is the best kept secret in the world.
Is it because they're afraid to see their supremacy put in question? Is it because they want to keep for themselves an aquired technology (Roswell could fit in that picture)? Or something else? What would you think?
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Ego Death]
#4772193 - 10/08/05 08:00 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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danoEoboy said: Did Travis Walton or any of his friends 'want to believe'?
As soon as they see something, or think something happened, they want to believe, because it means their credibility.
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MikeOLogical
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Phluck]
#4772781 - 10/08/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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there's a simple answer, that would explain why other countries see a real UFO threat and the US does not... it would also explain why pilots who swear they have seen things are told by their superiors that nothing is out there...
the UFOs are secret US military craft... the'coverup' is merely US military personnel doing their job keeping the craft secret...
we had stealth fighters and bombers at least 10 years before their dramatic unveiling to the public... very likely these craft and others developed afterwards are being reported as UFOs...
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Ego Death]
#4772808 - 10/08/05 12:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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danoEoboy said: Did Travis Walton or any of his friends 'want to believe'?
Notice how you do not respond to Phluck and instead reference some person who we do not know of with some stupid question. Great evidence.
But no, really, man, aliens exist and they are spotted all the time!
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: MikeOLogical]
#4772829 - 10/08/05 12:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some of them are secret military craft. Definitely not all of them.
And how do you know the government isn't reverse engineering UFOs to try and figure them out? For all we know.. they could be getting technology from them and that's why it's a big secret.
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MikeOLogical
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4772838 - 10/08/05 12:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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the one's that aren't are surely hoaxes, based on the unlikeliness of the reports and the lack of physical evidence...
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Shroomism
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: MikeOLogical]
#4772839 - 10/08/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh. I see.
Ok nevermind then. I don't believe in aliens or UFOs anymore.
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MikeOLogical
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4772864 - 10/08/05 12:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: And how do you know the government isn't reverse engineering UFOs to try and figure them out? For all we know.. they could be getting technology from them and that's why it's a big secret.
because that is highly unlikely given the circumstances... it's just as likely the government got the plans from jesus as aliens... its more likely they developed them on their own, with the use of tesla's and einstein's work, plus all those who have built on that knowledge and made their own discoveries since...
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: MikeOLogical]
#4772870 - 10/08/05 12:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I say the aliens traded the government technology for healthy human tissue and eggs.
Who came up with the idea for the stealth bomber? Do you know where they got their inspiration? Who made the first microchip? What was their inspiration?
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: MikeOLogical]
#4772919 - 10/08/05 01:02 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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MikeOLogical said: it's just as likely the government got the plans from jesus as aliens...
You mean...Shroomism's been trading secrets plans with the government?
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4772922 - 10/08/05 01:03 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Who came up with the idea for the stealth bomber? Do you know where they got their inspiration? Who made the first microchip? What was their inspiration?
www.fuckinggoogleit.com
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MikeOLogical
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4773817 - 10/08/05 05:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: I say the aliens traded the government technology for healthy human tissue and eggs.
Who came up with the idea for the stealth bomber? Do you know where they got their inspiration? Who made the first microchip? What was their inspiration?
the microchip is nothing more than an array of transistors... the transistor was developed by human people... i don't know who developed the stealth bomber, but aliens obviously don't have one, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing them on radar
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: MikeOLogical]
#4774267 - 10/08/05 08:20 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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If they were military, please explain why they would fly their 'secret' craft in places where we can obviously see and detect them? Why would they mockingly overtake commercial and other military pilots? Why do the military where alien masks and scare the shit out of people such as Travis Walton and Barney + Betty Hill?
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4774419 - 10/08/05 09:00 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Who made the first microchip? What was their inspiration?"
Well, let me enlighten you. This brilliant man just recently passed away. Few common folk know his name, but he changed the world. Jack Kilby
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4774481 - 10/08/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I believe there was another dude involved too.. some other guy invented it at the same time, and they teamed together or something. But that was just a question.
As for seeing them on radar.. they are only seen when they want to be seen. They disappear from radar, and don't appear on it at all, a lot more than they are seen on it. The government wanted cloaking technology too.. but we did it primitive style.. with weird angles.
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4775301 - 10/09/05 12:15 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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if some government did have a real alien space craft to reverse engineer i can promise you we would see some pretty mind blowing technological advancements. Not just a new way to coat frying pans or heat up food.
If it was a space craft and it did crash or whatever its obviously not a flawless super advanced design so its safe to assume our scientists would be able to gleam a fair understanding of what they are dealing with.
If it has been put together it can be taken apart, even by humans. I mean it would be like getting something from the future. The bounty would be unfathomable.
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MikeOLogical
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Scarfmeister]
#4775357 - 10/09/05 12:30 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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i love how thay claim to have pulled indestructible items from the wreckage of ufos, that can't be melted or altered in any way by human technology... yet somehow they broke apart on impact
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Shroomism
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: MikeOLogical]
#4775394 - 10/09/05 12:46 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomnoob said:If it was a space craft and it did crash or whatever its obviously not a flawless super advanced design so its safe to assume our scientists would be able to gleam a fair understanding of what they are dealing with.
If it has been put together it can be taken apart, even by humans. I mean it would be like getting something from the future. The bounty would be unfathomable.
Not if we couldn't figure it out completely. Or if there was a necessary element that didn't exist naturally on Earth.
i love how thay claim to have pulled indestructible items from the wreckage of ufos, that can't be melted or altered in any way by human technology... yet somehow they broke apart on impact
Who claims that? The government?
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: Shroomism]
#4775733 - 10/09/05 02:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe if there was any real evidence instead of mere weightless speculation, this thread would be going somewhere.
Peace.
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Re: The best site for an unbiased overview of the UFO phenomena [Re: fireworks_god]
#4775778 - 10/09/05 02:36 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh.. I thought you might have had something to contribute.
Ok.. this is the page you are looking for - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ufophysics/
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