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Smashedup
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Tyvek Users help plz. . .
#4674899 - 09/17/05 05:53 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well my rye jars have been incubating about 14 days now, and theyve all got white fuzzy mycellium on them, but I can still tell it's made out of rye grains. . I can somehwat see the grains even if they all do have mycellium on them. They've been like this for about 4 days without change. Anyway what I'm wondering is . . does it matter what side of the tyveck is up? I have the writing on the inside. . I dont know of it's one way stuff or if it's to keep moisture on the outside out but allow gas exchange both ways??? Anyone with real life experience help plz.
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ThumpaCap
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Smashedup]
#4675102 - 09/17/05 07:05 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think it goes both ways
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: ThumpaCap]
#4675117 - 09/17/05 07:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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polyfill has never done me wrong.
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Smashedup]
#4675136 - 09/17/05 07:22 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm in the same situation as you. I think what you mean to ask is if your jars are done or not, or if it's stopped colonizing.
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: ThumpaCap]
#4675365 - 09/17/05 08:53 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
ThumpaCap said: i think it goes both ways
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Smashedup
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: FooMan]
#4675715 - 09/17/05 10:22 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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So that's the official answer. . .I think I"ll wait another few days and if not I'll take some pictures and post to see what the experienced folks say. Sounds like it doesn't matter which direction, all the tecks that use tyvek never have any printing on the outside so I put it on the inside. . I guess we'll see, thanks for the info guys.
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agar
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Smashedup]
#4676564 - 09/18/05 02:05 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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100% colonized grain jars look like those above.
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: agar]
#4676589 - 09/18/05 02:13 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, is someone feeling better ?
Hope so.
Nice to know you're alive,lol.
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Smashedup]
#4676651 - 09/18/05 02:45 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Smashedup]
#4677145 - 09/18/05 09:42 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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How much exposed tyvek surface area do you have per jar?
The entire lid?
Tyvek has a tendency to over-aerate the jars, causing them to dry out much more quickly thanpolyfil.
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InjectTruth
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#4753245 - 10/04/05 08:25 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good question, baby hitler.
Agar, Magash, do you guys use just the lid ring, and a piece of tyvek, or do you poke a hole in the metal lid and place tyvek over/under?
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: InjectTruth]
#4753281 - 10/04/05 08:43 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I usually use tyvek and rings only with a big piece of tape on it.
My results vary. I suspect that Tyvek breaks down if it gets too hot and loses it's biological barrier properties.
Anything over 15psi is too much for Tyvek IME.
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FooMan
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#4753476 - 10/04/05 09:47 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have used just a Tyvek filter in place of the metal lid on my BRF/verm half pint jars. I also got rid of the dry verm layer. I filled the jars up to within 1/2-3/4" of the top and inoculated in a glove box. They are colonizing like wildfire right now with no signs of contams yet.
Guatemala 6 days after inoculation w/approx 1cc MSI incubating in a TiT at 85F:
I think the air exchange is so good with just the Tyvek on that it will colonize long before it has a chance to dry out.
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WhiteBunny
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: FooMan]
#4753617 - 10/04/05 10:18 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's great growth fooman!!!
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Buddyboy420
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: WhiteBunny]
#4753750 - 10/04/05 10:48 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey guys, I have a tyvek question Whats should I do with the seam on the back of postal tyvek? I worked around it was I right?
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djred
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: Buddyboy420]
#4754000 - 10/04/05 11:39 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol i love this place i never thought about only using tvek instead of the lid? but try using only tvek with your jars ina canner i doubt it would hold up to the pressure..
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cateyes
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: djred]
#4755315 - 10/04/05 05:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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tyvek stands upto pressure cooking. the membrane will pass gas easily. never let me down to date... good luck with your grow
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FooMan
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Re: Tyvek Users help plz. . . [Re: djred]
#4755807 - 10/04/05 07:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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djred said: try using only tvek with your jars ina canner i doubt it would hold up to the pressure..
I did and it did. See pictures that I previously posted. The jars were cooked with foil over them. The Tyvek allows steam to escape, so there is no chance for explosion. I PC'd at 15psi for 45min. Tyvek held up great.
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