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gonzales vs UDV (ayahuasca) ramifications...
    #4749960 - 10/03/05 05:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

bush will almost certainly win this case...so the question is..what will be the ramifications?...does that mean that m hostilis..d illinoensis....etc will automatically become de facto schedlue I?...what does this mean for ethnobotanicals in general?...


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Re: gonzales vs UDV (ayahuasca) ramifications... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4750275 - 10/03/05 06:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

UDV should win this case easily, but I don't think they will. I don't think there really will be any ramifications other than the UDV church having to be more secretive about it's ceremonies.

Do a search for this case, I had a huge long post on the matter on a thread I created.

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Re: gonzales vs UDV (ayahuasca) ramifications... [Re: Redstorm]
    #4751524 - 10/03/05 10:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I bet the government will barely win on like a 5 to 4 vote or something. All the justices will acknowledge the government shouldn't be in the business of regulating private drug use in religious settings, but they will stick them with something like Federalism or the commerce clause. Count on Thomas and Scalia to be the ones in dissent.

1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

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Re: gonzales vs UDV (ayahuasca) ramifications... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4751806 - 10/04/05 12:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

San Pedro's legality has nothing to do with religious use of mescaline.

It's legal because it is considered to be a "legitimate" houseplant I guess.

D. illinoensis is recognized as a fodder crop for grazing animals. It's not going anywhere.

As far as making dried root, or dried cactus for that matter illegal, who gives a shit. If someone isn't serious and competent enough about their psychedelics to grow their own and show enough capability and responsibility to care for a living organism, they don't deserve to trip.

Just so long as we got seeds, that's all that matters.


Actually, it's very easy to isolate a super producing sclerotia strain.

Follow the strain isolation technique on Let's Grow Mushrooms, and then select sectors early which are brown in color.  By the second or third transfer, you'll see stones developing, and this is only about 1 month after the original swipe of spores on agar.

Now, take each stone and move it to a new dish.  Soon, the mycelium will grow out and you'll see fresh stones developing, and if they're good strains, the sclerotia is forming long before the mycelium reaches the edge of the plate.  Pick strains which form four or five stones within two weeks and use these for your grain masters. -- RR

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Re: gonzales vs UDV (ayahuasca) ramifications... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4754795 - 10/04/05 04:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They should really relabel this case

Christianity vs. minor religion

oh well, better start hoarding MHRB.

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