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OfflineEternal1999
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I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!!
    #4739440 - 10/01/05 01:57 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

hEY,
i wAS just outside smokin tha salvia i just got. And I feel like im super-high right now, and i so cant type. Wow.. um, anyways so heres my problenm...

What is breaking thru exavtly? Will you know when it happens? Is it like a definate point? Cuz I want to get there, right now. But how will i know when i get there?

And is it very possible to do on regualr dried leaves alone?? Cuz thats all i have.

I just smoked 3 full bowls in like a 5 or 10 minute period and I feel like very high, but not 'There'.
I need to get "There". Someone tell me it possible for me to get "There", cuz I can see it in tha distance...
What do I need to do... ?


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4739470 - 10/01/05 02:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Everywhere i read, Ive heard u need to respect Salvia. Right now i have to respect for it, i feel like i can smoke 100X and it wouldnt even fase me.
I want to respect it, i want it to knock me unconcious and to another world.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4739471 - 10/01/05 02:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

its suggested that you use a bong, torch lighter, and hold your hits for AT LEAST 30 seconds.

you may want to try to get some 10x salvia extract or higher if you dont break through on leaves(which you should be able to)

and yeah, you'll know if you break through


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4739472 - 10/01/05 02:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Wait an hour and a half and smoke as much as you can in 1 minute.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4739479 - 10/01/05 02:07 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Eternal1999 said:
Everywhere i read, Ive heard u need to respect Salvia.    Right now i have to respect for it, i feel like i can smoke 100X and it wouldnt even fase me. 
I want to respect it, i want it to knock me unconcious and to another world.



ask and you shall receive  :tongue2:


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4739588 - 10/01/05 02:41 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

just get some decent extract and smoke it like he said, take a big rip and hold it in for as long as you can.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: NickSoapdish]
    #4739645 - 10/01/05 02:59 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

no dude the leaves will work. listen to what everyone esle said in terms of preparing but keep smoking.no reason tos top. o and yes u will know she shatters your reality


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4739709 - 10/01/05 03:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

so, im back...

just tried again, also tried tha quin method or whatever its called, when u hold it in your mouth for half hour. Im coming to a conclusion: I dont think i can trip.

I feel like mad high, but I dont think my mind will let me completely trip and lose my grip of reality. No matter what i try. Is it possible that some people cannot trip??

Cuz 6 months ago i did 4gs of mushrooms and didnt trip. Now this. Im gonna need to try some 10X or 20X, cuz tha salvia took me somewhere, a much cleaner and clearer high than weed. And I dont think i can go further without it being stronger. So, thats what i gotta do.. Tomorrow night.

Thats my conclusion.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4739719 - 10/01/05 03:20 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

just get 10x and smoke it right. Theres no reason that wont work


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: NickSoapdish]
    #4739775 - 10/01/05 03:34 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

My first time with the sage was with 2X extract. It was mild and slightly tactile. Very mellow. I thought it was just some head shop herb or like "herbal buds". Minutes later, I smoked a 7X extract and She showed me the breach between our worlds. I broke though and I knew it. I knew it hard. Open eye visuals. It was brief, I shook it off and that was it for the night.

I have gone back many a few times and each time I come back a changed man. When you go to this place, you will think "Wow, that was amazing! I want to do that again." A few months later you might consider going back, but you probably won't. Then, one day you pick up the pipe and wham! you go for a visit. There seems to be something holding most people back once they've broken though. I guess the time has to be right or maybe Salvia has to call you back. I don't know.

For me, it has been a while. Last time I broke though was in the winter some time. Here comes fall and Salvia hasn't beckoned me back yet. Last time I "felt" a voice in my head tell me there was a better way of getting though the barrier(than the pipe I was using). Next time I vaporize some 13X. I expect it to be strong, so the call will probably be strong, too.

My advice to you Eternal1999 is go to your local head shop of online vendor and get some extract. Start with a low dose (or don't) and work you way up. I have seen extracts in 2X, 5X, 7X, 10X, 13X, 20X, 25X, and 40X. Terrence McKenna say "DMT test pilots come back white knuckled with this one." So, be careful. Treat this plant like the sacrament it is because when you break though, you will be a changed man (or woman, don't want to assume). If you are unsure, have a sitter. I never do now, but I did my first time and a few since then.

Be careful, have fun, explore, and most important... report your finding.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: shymanta]
    #4740291 - 10/01/05 09:16 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

OK, so what is a head shop? Or should I try an extraction method on tha approx. 1/2 oz. i have left??


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4740346 - 10/01/05 10:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

salvia never worked for me, IMO it only works for some or others people CNS takes it differently.

i dont belive any of peoples methods about smoking it for multiple reasons.

joe says to smoke it this way because its the only way it works and it worked for him...but then tom says do it this way because it works for him that way. All these fucking different suggested methods = just ridicouls to say there is a certain way to smoke it.

"use a bong, thats the way it works" did the fucking indians who smoked the shit use a bong? FUCK NO lol. so you dont HAVE to smoke out of a bong.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: Eternal1999]
    #4740550 - 10/01/05 12:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Keep trying. It's almost as if you will keep hitting this gate with the first 10 or so times you do it. Before the gate, there are some strange effects. When you break through the gates, it is unlike anything. I belive that smoking straight leaves will eventually work, but it may take way too long with too much disappointemnt, so you may want to up the concentration. You may also want to smoke a little herb before. this helped me breakthrough, but it had the effect of lengthening the come-down (or come-out/back) considerably.
you won't know it when you breakthrough, because any wits that were about you are scattered to the wind, but coming back you will definitely realize it.
so, the best advice is to keep trying. It will eventually work. I remember thinking that i could smoke any amount and i wouldn't breakthrough, but just experience more weirdness. Wow, was i wrong!
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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: nycomyco]
    #4740611 - 10/01/05 12:52 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

just dont focus on the trip, dont focus on anything. smoke it and enjoy your trip.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #4740648 - 10/01/05 01:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

the indians actually didn't smoke it all, they used the quid method I believe.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: leery11]
    #4740686 - 10/01/05 01:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

More important than strength or device would be set and setting. Get into a completly dark and quite room, and you will find out the strength of salvia.

Personally, torch lighter was nessecary in my case, and I used a arizona iced tea can as a shotgun....


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4740796 - 10/01/05 02:13 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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joe says to smoke it this way because its the only way it works and it worked for him...but then tom says do it this way because it works for him that way. All these fucking different suggested methods = just ridicouls to say there is a certain way to smoke it.

"use a bong, thats the way it works" did the fucking indians who smoked the shit use a bong? FUCK NO lol. so you dont HAVE to smoke out of a bong.




The bong and torch lighter are just suggestions. There's actually a pretty widely agreed upon method of smoking extract. Pack a small bowl (pretty much as much as you think you can inhale), light it until it's cashed, and hold it in for as long as you can. If you can hold a hit in for at least 15-20 seconds, it should work. Why is it ridiculous to say there is a certain way to smoke it?

I never use a bong or a torch lighter, just a regular glass pipe and a regular lighter, works no problem.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: NickSoapdish]
    #4740892 - 10/01/05 02:48 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

clear your mind, and breath deep.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: NickSoapdish]
    #4740926 - 10/01/05 02:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Brandon said:
Why is it ridiculous to say there is a certain way to smoke it?

I never use a bong or a torch lighter, just a regular glass pipe and a regular lighter, works no problem.





I think its ridicouls to say "THIS IS THE WAY YOU HAVE TO SMOKE IT TO GET THE EFFECT" and perfect example is just what we have here....a lot of people say "YOU HAVE TO USE A BONG AND TORCH" but not look at your quote.....no bong, no torch, and everything is fine. Its just BS to say that one method is the only method that works.


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Re: I WANT TO BREAKTHRU !!! [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4741435 - 10/01/05 05:12 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I had tha setting right, I was outside, in tha dark of tha middle of tha night, and I did smoke weed before and after. Held it in for 30 seconds or so each time. I think Im just gonna need some extract, thats tha only way im gonna get there.


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