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# 1 of 4 Identification helps
    #4734478 - 09/30/05 01:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

These unknown species were found in a cow pasture just 5 minutes from my house!

* Habitat: BC,Canada in a cow field, on top of a dung pile with grass growing over it
* Characteristics of the gills: Purple grayish and attached
* Characteristics of the stem: from 1/2 cm to 3 cm long,from 1mm to 4mm in diameter,white,slimy,solid and thin
* Characteristics of the cap: from 1/2 cm to about 1cm in diameter,white with a yellow orangery color in the middle of it,slimy,one half circle round and with a little nipple on top
* SPORE PRINT COLOR (new): jet black
* Color that the mushroom bruises: none noticed
* Scent of the mushroom: just like a regular mushroom nothing special
* Any thing else you might find important:z The whole field was a hay field what I mean by this is that A LOT of hay was lieing around in the field (just harvested)

In natural habitat:

http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=860f.jpg&.src=ph

http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=eced.jpg&.src=ph

Displayed with palm as to refer to size better:
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=3b32.jpg&.src=ph

http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=23d9.jpg&.src=ph

Shot of gills (on one of the pics on some farther left mushrooms the gills look brown blackish but this is only because of the light):
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=fccc.jpg&.src=ph

In all sizes:

http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=261f.jpg&.src=ph 

Sporprint color:

http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=713d.jpg&.src=ph


http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mr_reggea/detail?.dir=/4a53&.dnm=f0bd.jpg&.src=ph

I was thinking maybe subbs?Because they look a lot like them and the spore print color is the same.
I thank you all VERY much for helping me out!! :heart: :laugh:

PS: I usually never pick the pins this was only done to assure an absolute accurate identification


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Edited by Mr_Psilocin (09/30/05 03:28 PM)


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Re: # 1 of 4 Identification helps [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #4738305 - 09/30/05 09:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Oh man..30 times viewed and not a single one knew? Does'nt anyone know?


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Re: # 1 of 4 Identification helps [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #4743543 - 10/02/05 01:50 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

~~Bump~~ come on people please help me out or at least post why it may be so hard to identify the little fellow......is it because it's a L.B.M? I heard lbm's are hard to identify well maybe someone might know so ..........~~BUMP~~


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Re: # 1 of 4 Identification helps [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #4745283 - 10/02/05 03:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, it's because they're LBMs. I can't really tell from the photos - is the spore print color a purplish brown, dark brown, or black?

Are the gill faces mottled?

Are the gill edges a different color than the faces?

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Re: # 1 of 4 Identification helps [Re: ToxicMan]
    #4745425 - 10/02/05 04:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well it's more black than brown but I can see a little bit of light brown mixed into the print..as far as the one that is mottled goes it's a different species that I accidentally took a picture of with the other ones, luckily I noticed the difference and took it out. The gill edges aren't a different color than the faces it's just the spore's on the dried specimen, the did however have a brownish film layer in the middle that disappeared as it dried. :thumbup:


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"I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again." Bill Clinton

"A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly fifteen hundred pounds of marijuana within about 15 minutes to induce a lethal response... In strict medical terms, marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death."

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis L. Young
Opinion and Recommended Ruling, Findings of Fact,

http://www.hempfiles.com/php/quotes.php


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Re: # 1 of 4 Identification helps [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #4746376 - 10/02/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The reasons those questions are important in this case are:

The gill faces of Panaeolus and Psathyrella are often mottled (unlike other genera). If you see gills that are mottled then you've narrowed down the genus quite a bit.

Panaeolus often have pale gill edges due to colorless sterile cells at the margin (cystidia). When looking at gills, always carefully look at the edge to see if it's a different color. In some mushrooms (particularly Mycenas) the gill edge can even be a striking different color (like red).


Since the spore print isn't a pure black (it should be truly black, not just dark brown) then I would lean toward these being Agrocybe, Hebeloma, or possibly Psathyrella.

Unfortunately, identifying LBMs accurately (even to genus!) is often an exercise in frustration.

Happy mushrooming!


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