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OfflineDog_Z
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What to do to casings after 1st flush..
    #4734408 - 09/30/05 01:39 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

After a 1st or subsequent flush and harvest for a casing should I:

1 just add more moist sterile verm and "re-case"
2. Should I "flood", add water to pan, refreigerate and then drain or
3. should I just keep misting and wait for new pins


Edited by Dog_Z (09/30/05 02:05 AM)


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: Dog_Z]
    #4735004 - 09/30/05 04:15 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I like to dunk and put back in the fruiting chamber. I wouldn't add a new casing layer because that would make the mycelium work again to penetrate.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: BataviaVakereli]
    #4735296 - 09/30/05 06:44 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

2


And then patch. I have no qualms about new casing material. I usually put more on and fill in the sides with it.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4735378 - 09/30/05 08:29 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I just patch divots left from harvesting and mist real well and wait.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: hyphae]
    #4735527 - 09/30/05 10:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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hyphae said:
I just patch divots left from harvesting and mist real well and wait.




:thumbup:  That's all I do....I usually never dunk my casings...a good misting in between flushes should be sufficient.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4735982 - 09/30/05 12:08 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I have found dunking has increased my second and third flush, but I have nothing to compare it to as Ive never tried just leaving it. I also tried adding a very small amount of concentrated seaweed extract to the water before dunking and it seemed to have a positive effect.

First flush:



Second flush, dunked only:



Third flush, dunked with weak solution seaweed extract and re-cased with coir:



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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: _OttO_]
    #4742341 - 10/01/05 10:06 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Otto, how do you dunk a casing. Just fill the pan with water, cover, place in frig (maybe). Then drain?? Do you add more verm?


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: Dog_Z]
    #4744383 - 10/02/05 07:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I fill the pan with water and just leave it in the fruiting chamber for 12-18 hours, uncovered. After this time, drain the water out, soak up any larger puddles with paper towel and put some casing material in the gap around the edges (the casing will have shrunk). You can lightly case the top again, or just lightly fill the divots where you last harvested.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: _OttO_]
    #4744457 - 10/02/05 08:50 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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I have found dunking has increased my second and third flush, but I have nothing to compare it to as Ive never tried just leaving it.





Then how do you know this has "increased" your second and third flush?  :smirk:


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: Alpha]
    #4744502 - 10/02/05 09:25 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I have compared, and I find that dunking inbetween flushes gives me more weight for the later flushes. But I dunk in the fridge with a little h2o2 unlike otto. I like to be as sterile as possible, but I have 3 cats and a dog in the house so my chances for contam are a little increased.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: Dog_Z]
    #4746661 - 10/02/05 10:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Number '2' then number '1', OR number '1' then number '3'. No need to refridgerate though.....


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: Alpha]
    #4746676 - 10/02/05 10:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

_OttO_ said:
I have found dunking has increased my second and third flush, but I have nothing to compare it to as Ive never tried just leaving it.





Then how do you know this has "increased" your second and third flush?  :smirk:




What I meant was there were considerably more mushrooms in my second and third flushes compared to my first.


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Re: What to do to casings after 1st flush.. [Re: _OttO_]
    #4748338 - 10/03/05 08:33 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

It is common to have the second flush larger than the first which is a result of the pinset being less than evenly set.


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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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