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InvisibleTaskenti
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Williamsii and difussa
    #4727439 - 09/28/05 08:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Does anyone know of a way to tell these two seeds apart without having to wait 4 years until they mature and without sending the seeds to be tested.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Taskenti]
    #4727539 - 09/28/05 08:53 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

not sure, but i highly doubt that its possible

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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: day_tripper]
    #4727628 - 09/28/05 09:09 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Thats what I figured! DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Taskenti]
    #4727689 - 09/28/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Graft a seedling and you should be able to tell within a few months.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Psychoslut]
    #4727701 - 09/28/05 09:24 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Grafting makes them grow THAT fast?


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Taskenti]
    #4727777 - 09/28/05 09:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Very, Very quickly. I'm not sure the average person could identify it that quickly though. You'd have a shot over at the nook though.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4727820 - 09/28/05 09:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

diffusa usualy has less intricate "patterns"(tho williamsii can have this), and has much smaller tuffs of "fur"

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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Legoulash]
    #4728194 - 09/28/05 10:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

ive seen the seeds together, nothing whatsoever to tell them apart...


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Taskenti]
    #4729111 - 09/29/05 12:28 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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bruceallen said:
Grafting makes them grow THAT fast?



Yes. I've been literally obsessed about grafting for the last couple days and I've seen many pictures that suggest that grafting really really really speeds things up.

...I just bought a bunch of opuntia compressa for that very purpose!

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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4729168 - 09/29/05 12:39 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4729956 - 09/29/05 04:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Far out man, that shit is in-sane!!! A full on fucking farm!!

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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: zee_werp]
    #4730226 - 09/29/05 07:52 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah! Deffinatly a BIG waste of time!! What the hell are those grafted to?!? omg that is awesome!!


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Taskenti]
    #4730282 - 09/29/05 08:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quick question, when you graft like that and then you wanna transfer the diffusa or williamsii to soil, how easy would it be to get it to root?


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Taskenti]
    #4730418 - 09/29/05 08:42 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty easy to root, from what I hear. But apparently for the root to fully establish (something that normally happens over the years, nice big root) it might take a while.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4730735 - 09/29/05 09:38 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yeah...I love those pictures.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4731682 - 09/29/05 12:57 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I have to admit those appear to be the best grafts I've ever seen. Do you know what type of stock they used and (possibly) at what age they were grafted?

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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4731854 - 09/29/05 01:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

They were likely grafted as seedlings.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4731857 - 09/29/05 01:31 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Pereskiopsis maybe? age seedlings maybe?


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #4731867 - 09/29/05 01:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Pereskiopsis is often used for grafting slow growing cactus like those. I just happen to have some extra peres on hand right now. Make me an offer to swap or enough cash to cover the cost of sending it and I'll send you some cuttings. Pereskiopsis grows like mad and is easy to root. Do a search here, Una had some terrific threads on grafting with pereskiopsis.


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Re: Williamsii and difussa [Re: Stonehenge]
    #4731970 - 09/29/05 01:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

If they were grafted onto pereskiopsis, they were grafted onto adult plants. I've read that the pereskiopsis grafts slow down after the second year due to scabs forming around the vascular tissue. Cool pics though! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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