Home | Community | Message Board


SoulSpeciosa Kratom
Please support our sponsors.

General Interest >> Political Discussion

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
Offlinelonestar2004
Live to party,work to affordit.
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 8,978
Loc: South Texas
Last seen: 6 years, 2 months
Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice
    #4730777 - 09/29/05 11:45 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Final vote was 78-22.


--------------------
America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRedstorm
Prince of Bugs
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 44,174
Last seen: 10 months, 1 day
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4730914 - 09/29/05 12:17 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

As long as he protects my rights, I see nothing wrong with him.

Btw, I love your avatar.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineVex
Stranger
Registered: 05/04/05
Posts: 1,284
Last seen: 11 years, 8 months
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4730986 - 09/29/05 12:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

i just don't understand why he is being made chief justice. Why does he get the lead job when he's the most inexperianced one in the group? Doesn't it make more sense to promote one of the other justices? Thats what bothers me.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinelonestar2004
Live to party,work to affordit.
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/03/04
Posts: 8,978
Loc: South Texas
Last seen: 6 years, 2 months
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: Vex]
    #4731015 - 09/29/05 12:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

politics...

and two hearings instead of three.


--------------------
America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTao
Village Genius

Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 7,935
Loc: San Diego
Last seen: 2 years, 14 days
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: Vex]
    #4731031 - 09/29/05 12:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Vex said:
i just don't understand why he is being made chief justice. Why does he get the lead job when he's the most inexperianced one in the group? Doesn't it make more sense to promote one of the other justices? Thats what bothers me.




Yeah I've been trying to find this out in the news but can't find an answer.  Anyone know?  Until now I had always thought the Chief Justice had to do somewhat with seniority :confused:


--------------------
Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleafoaf
CEO DBK?
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 32,665
Loc: Ripple's Heart
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: Tao]
    #4731100 - 09/29/05 12:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Chief Justice is more of a symbolic seat than anything.

They don't get two votes or anything.

That being said, if I were Scalia, I'd be pissed that
this little twerp took the helm.


--------------------
All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRedstorm
Prince of Bugs
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 44,174
Last seen: 10 months, 1 day
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: afoaf]
    #4731428 - 09/29/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I was sure Scalia would get the job before it was handed to Roberts.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineZooDoggy
Strangerer
Registered: 06/02/05
Posts: 63
Loc: Around corner & a ham sandwich
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4731630 - 09/29/05 02:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

:crazy2:


Edited by ZooDoggy (09/29/05 02:47 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinegnrm23
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/30/99
Posts: 6,481
Loc: n. e. OH, USSA
Last seen: 12 days, 20 hours
Re: "seniority" [Re: ZooDoggy]
    #4733307 - 09/29/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

the majority of chief justices were not chosen fron sitting scotus judges...


--------------------
old enough to know better
not old enough to care


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblebukkake
LEFT WING NUT
Male

Registered: 05/28/05
Posts: 2,746
Loc: Classified
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: Vex]
    #4733488 - 09/29/05 09:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Vex said:
i just don't understand why he is being made chief justice. Why does he get the lead job when he's the most inexperianced one in the group? Doesn't it make more sense to promote one of the other justices? Thats what bothers me.



BECAUSE HE KNEW REAGAN, STUPID. What's with all the Reaganites Bush recruits anyway?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGringoLoco
I spit in theface of peoplewho ain't cool.
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 6,118
Loc: Monterey, CA
Last seen: 8 years, 3 months
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: bukkake]
    #4734893 - 09/30/05 03:38 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, a majority of the Chief justices were placed in power right away just like Roberts. I still don't like it.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleKingOftheThing
the cool fool
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 27,389
Loc: USA
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: lonestar2004]
    #4734935 - 09/30/05 03:51 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

at least scalia isnt chief justice. he is batshit insane. thomas is crazier


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehawksapprentice
Yearns to Snowboard
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/06/03
Posts: 3,193
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 9 months, 12 days
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: Redstorm]
    #4735329 - 09/30/05 07:30 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Are you a woman red??? I'm not trying to be insulting. What im trying to get at is that if your are, your rights to your body are going to be slim to none soon. Abortion will be illegal in two years no less.


--------------------
"I celebrate the Earth, my home, my mother, my grave, and as long as men are Man they must, if they would preserve the integrated being, do the same---[and preserve]--this rank casual hungry smelly sweaty lusting transitory body, my oozy pulpy liquid-bag-swollen body, bones, blood, hair glands, my bejeweled sex; I love and celebrate it all.  never to let men forget that they are animals as much as gods---that is one thing I shall say."

  Edward Abbey


Edited by hawksapprentice (09/30/05 07:31 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMushmonkey
shiftlesslayabout
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/26/03
Posts: 10,378
Last seen: 2 years, 9 months
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4735459 - 09/30/05 09:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Actually if you read anything Roberts has written or said.. he is not a fan of activist judges -- by which I mean judges who enjoy the passage of opinions and stances into law.
That's the job of the elected body of government. They MAKE the laws.
Judges just decide what is and is not Constitutional. What does and does not infringe upon rights. If it is, and doesn't? Well, then it's judicially A-OK. Don't like the law? Then elect people who will repeal it.
Simple as that, really.

If somehow he WOULD delegalize abortion? Elect people who will pass an amendment or law allowing it. So long as that law does not infringe upon the rights of others, it's A-OK. Is a tiny unborn clump of cells a person with all deserved rights? That's a sticky question, but I believe any sane person would realize that if the answer was "yes", things would get a bit out of hand. Is a miscarraige grounds for a Manslaughter charge? If an abortion is murder, than unintentionally causing the death of a fetus must also be on par with unintentionally causing the death of any other citizen, which means charges would be filed.

Is he Conservative? Sure..
but more importantly, he's a rational, thinking individual, who strikes me as one who realizes that in his (now) current position, his opinions must take the back seat to what is right and what is within legal bounds.


--------------------
i finally got around to making a sig
revel in its glory and quake in fear at its might
grar.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinehawksapprentice
Yearns to Snowboard
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/06/03
Posts: 3,193
Loc: Oregon
Last seen: 9 months, 12 days
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #4739995 - 10/01/05 04:52 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

You dont get it, the chief justice is the final word on wether it consititutional or not. It's not a elected position, therefore you can't elect people to rewrite the laws. He can easily overturn Roe Vs. Wade. It IS within his power to do so.


Do you always believe what politicians say?? Does "No new taxes" sound familiar. You put way too much stock into what people say to get you to approve of them.


--------------------
"I celebrate the Earth, my home, my mother, my grave, and as long as men are Man they must, if they would preserve the integrated being, do the same---[and preserve]--this rank casual hungry smelly sweaty lusting transitory body, my oozy pulpy liquid-bag-swollen body, bones, blood, hair glands, my bejeweled sex; I love and celebrate it all.  never to let men forget that they are animals as much as gods---that is one thing I shall say."

  Edward Abbey


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinePhred
Fred's son
Male

Registered: 10/19/00
Posts: 12,949
Loc: Dominican Republic
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4740543 - 10/01/05 12:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

You dont get it, the chief justice is the final word on wether it consititutional or not. It's not a elected position, therefore you can't elect people to rewrite the laws. He can easily overturn Roe Vs. Wade. It IS within his power to do so.




Incorrect. The vote of the Chief Justice counts no more than the vote of any of the others. If a case related to Roe is brought before the court, and the CJ and three others vote against Roe but five others vote to uphold, it stays upheld.


Phred


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRedstorm
Prince of Bugs
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 44,174
Last seen: 10 months, 1 day
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4740583 - 10/01/05 12:43 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

hawksapprentice said:
You dont get it, the chief justice is the final word on wether it consititutional or not. It's not a elected position, therefore you can't elect people to rewrite the laws. He can easily overturn Roe Vs. Wade. It IS within his power to do so.





Do you know anything about the Supreme Court? The Chief Justice is not the final word on the votes. He has one vote, just like all of the other justices.

Quote:

Court duties of the chief justice:

# Leads oral arguments from the center chair on the bench

# Leads closed-door conferences where votes are cast on pending appeals and cases heard in oral argument

# Can help move the court toward a certain ideology through personal leadership and coalition-building (Legal scholars note that Chief Justice Earl Warren helped move the court to the left; William Rehnquist helped move it to the right.)

Administrative duties:

# Oversees administrative duties of the Supreme Court, including scheduling cases and setting deadlines for appeals and opinions

# Heads the Judicial Conference, the chief administrative body of federal courts; sets rules over civil procedure and evidence; handles budgets, security and staffing

# Serves as chief advocate and spokesperson over legislation affecting federal courts

# Names judges to serve on various administrative and judicial panels

# Issues a year-end report on the federal judiciary that sets priorities and highlights accomplishments and problems in federal courts

Special duties:

# Presides over presidential impeachment hearings in the Senate

# Traditionally presides over presidential inaugurations

# Serves as chancellor of the Smithsonian Institution





I included the list so people can learn about what they are spouting off nonsense about.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineCatalysis
EtherealEngineer

Registered: 04/23/02
Posts: 1,742
Last seen: 8 years, 11 months
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4740638 - 10/01/05 01:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:


Are you a woman red??? I'm not trying to be insulting. What im trying to get at is that if your are, your rights to your body are going to be slim to none soon.




Yes, you will miss out on what it truly means to be a woman...that is getting knocked up, scrambling its brains, and getting it sucked out with a vacuum. LMAO

Im pro-abortion BTW, its just funny how these "reproductive rights" people glorify abortions like you are totally missing out if you don't get one.

Also FYI, the supreme court does not make laws.
See: US Constitution Article I, Section 1


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRedstorm
Prince of Bugs
Male

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 44,174
Last seen: 10 months, 1 day
Re: Roberts Confirmed as Chief Justice [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #4740729 - 10/01/05 01:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a man, btw.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

General Interest >> Political Discussion

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Bush nominates Roberts as chief justice knumb 850 13 09/06/05 02:25 AM
by Redstorm
* Chief Justice Dies: Bush's court now?
( 1 2 all )
doubledog2 1,884 36 09/06/05 11:54 AM
by lonestar2004
* John Roberts, Bush's Justice nomination
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
DNKYD 3,912 98 07/23/05 01:40 PM
by Phred
* Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist has died IAmTheWalrus212 297 2 09/04/05 04:02 AM
by Adden
* Here are the current Justices: lonestar2004 485 1 07/08/05 06:18 PM
by lonestar2004
* Justices Hear Arguments on Internet Pornography Law DiploidM 557 4 11/02/07 09:47 AM
by d33p
* Cops Dont Have to Knock, New Justices Say
( 1 2 all )
Madtowntripper 1,704 25 06/19/06 01:09 PM
by wilshire
* Federal judge declares Pledge of Allegiance in schools unconstitutional
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
DNKYD 3,794 82 09/17/05 07:03 PM
by klonokingpin

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil
910 topic views. 0 members, 1 guests and 6 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
MRCA Tyroler Gluckspilze
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.031 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 19 queries.