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OfflineLittlewing70
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big pupils suck
    #4727292 - 09/28/05 08:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

does anyone of any idea how to minimize big pupils or anything, does visine help , i wouldnt think it would but .. idunno

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: Littlewing70]
    #4727298 - 09/28/05 08:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Why do you ask?


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: RESTLESS]
    #4727313 - 09/28/05 08:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You can figure out how to voluntarily control your pupils, its just like finding any other seldom used muscle (ex: wiggling your ears).


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: ThePredator]
    #4727339 - 09/28/05 08:21 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i know i can focus my own eyes on will... like make things very very very blurry, like i need glasses... and then make everything sharp again... not sure if its a common skill or not, but i do it when im bored...

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OfflineThePredator
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Re: big pupils suck [Re: chaospilot]
    #4727361 - 09/28/05 08:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Thats the muscels behind the lens, not your pupils.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: ThePredator]
    #4727403 - 09/28/05 08:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

well there we go, how would i tell if i am making my pupils bigger or smaller? would things get brighter or something?

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OfflineThePredator
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Re: big pupils suck [Re: chaospilot]
    #4727412 - 09/28/05 08:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You could use a mirror.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: ThePredator]
    #4727464 - 09/28/05 08:42 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

but then i wouldnt be able to tell without using a mirrior if i wanted to show my friends or not. There has to be some sort of feeling you get so you know you're doing it right...

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: ThePredator]
    #4727473 - 09/28/05 08:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

But again, why would anyone want to get rid of big pupils? I think they're hilarious to look at, makes people look almost cartoonish...

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: StickyWater]
    #4727519 - 09/28/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

if you really want to get rid of them, stare at a mirror for a while, and will your pupils to get smaller, do that a lot, eventually you can control it a little

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: StickyWater]
    #4727524 - 09/28/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking authority figures trip balls when you hasve dilated pupils.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: jobot37]
    #4727526 - 09/28/05 08:52 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Water does make a point you know, big pupils are cool...

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: chaospilot]
    #4728145 - 09/28/05 10:20 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

im not sure if ud wanna do this, but opiates tend to make my pupils small when im tripping, although for some reason it seems like i get less visuals. perhaps the bigger your pupils get during a trip, the more you see? just a guess


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #4728271 - 09/28/05 10:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i love looking at my pupilated eyes in the mirror..

if your gonna be out in public or around authority figures just wear some sunglasses.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: the_psychonaut]
    #4728283 - 09/28/05 10:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

100s-1000's of years ago they would put datura extracts in womens eyes because they thought it was most beautiful. (Ancient Greeks)

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: stemmer]
    #4728299 - 09/28/05 10:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Atropa Belladonna actually was used for that purpose stemmer , your pupils also dilate when aroused, so that is the reasoning behind that , it is the atropine that does it , so is said, but I belive the other alkaloids there in of Atropa / Datura / Hysocyamus / Mandragora also produce mydrisis . Atropa Belladonna has the most atropine of them however, and atropine is still used among other things for the purpose of dilating pupils for various things relating to the eyes, exams, surgery , ect -Tranceharper


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: stemmer]
    #4728319 - 09/28/05 10:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

There isnt anything more attractive to me than a woman that is a smart and observant, The enlarged pupil accentuates this feeling. It did that for ancient wester-men much like a dead show where all the females run around looking like antenii's to the rest of the universe.
Parents, and drug haters dont like it though, it might even be intimidateing as well as a soarce of bitching and drug tests.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: stemmer]
    #4728329 - 09/28/05 10:45 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Women, ancient greece, seriously, in the eyes.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: stemmer]
    #4728482 - 09/28/05 11:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I beleive the aroused part too, its not that simple though. Its assosiation with beauty is far beyond that.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: king_cobra]
    #4728984 - 09/29/05 12:05 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno, everytime I've looked at myself in the mirror (with full light) it has looked perty stupid. I have these massive ginormous pupils and barely any iris left. It's so fucked up that I'm sure I would draw stares.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4730300 - 09/29/05 08:17 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Do you think most people who aren't into psycadelics, even realize someone is tripping if they saw big pupils? Sure, we all would know a person is tripping if they had big pupils in the middle of the day, but would the average person on the street? I'd think they'd just think it wierd and move on.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4730328 - 09/29/05 08:24 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

My pupils don't get big anymore, my eyes are retarded.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: Tranceharper]
    #4730558 - 09/29/05 09:03 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I've noticed that people with blue eyes tend to have larger pupils in general.  My fiance constantly has dialated pupils, and he's not on anything (works for law enforcement, has to be able to pass piss tests on a whim).  I admire that.

When I went to get laser surgery to correct my eyes, they had to do a dialation test to see how big your pupils get at their largest.  They used drops that caused  this to happen.  Mine never got very big.  :sad:  This was good because there were no worries about the equipment being able to work, but it made me feel like I had little beady eyes. 

Dialated pupils are supposed to attract others, because they indicate interest and attraction.  Those are the kinds of eyes people describe as "limpid pools."


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4731071 - 09/29/05 10:53 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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hobbitxkillyou said:
Do you think most people who aren't into psycadelics, even realize someone is tripping if they saw big pupils? Sure, we all would know a person is tripping if they had big pupils in the middle of the day, but would the average person on the street? I'd think they'd just think it wierd and move on.



almost every american has sat through "drug education" or seen drug users in popular movies or known a drug user first hand or heard jokes about dilated pupils and their association with drugs.

generally i'd say, yes they'd at least wonder if you were tripping. Whether it is what they suspect, or if they just think you are sick or went to the eye doctor depends upon how much they think about drugs or have been conditioned to be suspicious about drugs.

Generally speaking if you're a young kid and you look happy and your eyes are huge, people will probably assume you're high. If you're an adult or like maybe a 5-6 year old then possibly not/


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: leery11]
    #4731699 - 09/29/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Dilated pupils turn people on because, when you turn someone on, theyre pupils dilate.Dont believe me, try it.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: FungusMan]
    #4731759 - 09/29/05 01:13 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I don't feel we should disciminate against ppl who are big. ppl come in different shapes and forms, we should all try to live in harmony with each other. big pupils are just as good as regular sized pupils. please ppl. stop being jerks.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: m_skandero]
    #4732250 - 09/29/05 02:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

As far as the question of "How many people would notice?"... Put it this way, in 6 hours of tripping on shrooms, 3 cars slowed down while the passengers yelled stuff we couldn't hear and laughed, 2 people gave us weird looks (that we noticed) and 2 people we walked passed were looking at us when we walked passed and laughing. So yeah, people do notice, maybe not that you're tripping, but they clearly notice something's off... Sure I was dressed a little odd that day, but I had been dressed more or less the same for the past few months before that trip and never got soo much attention from it...

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: StickyWater]
    #4732255 - 09/29/05 02:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I suppose I'm in the minority on this one, but that's just not something I pay attention to.

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4732287 - 09/29/05 02:57 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

People can definitely tell something is up when they look into your eyes. Doesn't even have to be with shrooms. MDMA does the same thing, and it people comment about it whenever I do it. However, as long as they don't have the power to put me in jail, I usually don't care and sometimes show it off just to make a different kind of fashion statement (some people get tongue piercings...)

If you DO run into someone with the power to put you in jail while you're tripping however, then you done fucked up and then it becomes a matter of carrying the rest of your body as easily and naturally as possible. It's kinda like a magic trick. Just convince them that aside from your eyes, everything else is cool. It's a fine art, and I can't pretend to be knowledgeable about it to teach it, but I can pull it off, and that's good enough for me.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: WillieTomg]
    #4732390 - 09/29/05 03:19 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Hah, I guess I'm lucky, cops here seem to be pretty easy going, just as long as you're not posing any real threat to people, and as long as nobody's filed a complaint they'll usualy just mind their business (the amount of times police cruisers have showed up while I had weed on me but just flashed their lights headlights, saw I was leaving and just drove away, despite it being pretty obvious what I was doing down there in the park that late at night.

To quote chief Wiggum "I'd rather see a thousand guilty men go free than chase after them"

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: StickyWater]
    #4732937 - 09/29/05 05:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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StickyWater said:

To quote chief Wiggum "I'd rather see a thousand guilty men go free than chase after them"




:lol:

Even a few months ago that used to be the attitude of POs up here.  But lately they've gotten a LOT more aggressive.  It must be some sort of new crime initiative they've got going.  I can't figure out what caused such a radical attitude change across the board in such a short period of time.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: WillieTomg]
    #4733150 - 09/29/05 06:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

huge pupils suck = always a dead give away your fucked up.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4733217 - 09/29/05 07:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Meh, I've always found Canadian cops to be more or less easy going when it comes to stuff like that, just as long as they see you packing up when you see them they usualy ignore you, once had a cop ride right by me and a few friends on her bike while we half way through a joint maybe 8ft away, she simple circled the block and rode behind us as we were leaving.

Hmmmm, it just occured to me that it may sound like I'm saying Canadian cops are lazy here, I'd just like to make it clear that that is in NO way what I'm trying to say, and I really respect the fact that they are reasonable about this.

Edited by StickyWater (09/29/05 07:17 PM)

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Re: big pupils suck [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4733389 - 09/29/05 07:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Zoloft, Paxil, and other legit SSRI's and MAOI's can make pupils large.  I think as long as you act like you're supposed to look that way, no one will think twice these days.

Now, if you're sitting in a park holding, say, lit sticks of incense and laughing hysterically, they may notice.  As they did with me and my friend in Golden Gate Park.  :wink:


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: Gliders]
    #4735313 - 09/30/05 05:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i think the dilated pupil thing is a bit of a red herring, as it isn't just that which changes when someone trips.

When you're fucked you look fucked, it's not just the eyes.

Plus of course you're going to notice everyone who looks at you and begin to wonder why......


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: Oakbear]
    #4736602 - 09/30/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

^^^

Like I said, it's all about how you carry yourself. Just be cool around people even if you're CERTAIN they know you're tripping.


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Re: big pupils suck [Re: WillieTomg]
    #4737974 - 09/30/05 05:54 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

hey that reminds me of a time i was trippin at a servo and an undercover cop car pulled up, I was getting incredibly paranoid and was convinced it was all an elaborate bust (the old grannies getting petrol were in on it too) in hindsight that's rediculous - y would they care about me?

Anyway I was just waiting for it all to go down. An eternity passed and the tension was WAY too much so I ended up walking up to them and asked them how they were and stuff - expecting to get handcuffed or something :smile: We ended up having a brief incoherent conversation,

cop: So where do you work?
- I told him the area where I live

cop: so what u doin here tonight?
- I work at...

haha it was all mumbled and fucked up that way and my pupils were HUGE, but they didn't care, coolest cops i've ever met! Still I wasnt sure if it was an act so I ended up asking "Hey am I in trouble for anything?" haha it's like I was TRYING to draw attention to the fact i was "tripping balls" - as they say.


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