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Could you raise yourself better then your parents did?
    #4726789 - 09/28/05 06:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I wondered today if I could raise myself better then my parents did.

I thought hard about it, and honestly, I'm not sure. I'm a tricky person. I can't say if I would have been able to do a better job. I definitely wouldn't have smothered myself in religion, that's for sure. I feel their continuous acts of shoving religion down my throat and keeping me isolated from the "real world" has damaged me. That's the only thing I would say I'd do differently. All things stem from religion for my parents so just eliminate that, and I would be good.

however, I would not be the same person I am today.

You?

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4726803 - 09/28/05 06:31 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

if i raised my self without my parents there, id be either

1. in jail
2. dead
3. in a gang

so yea thank god my parents were there, cause i was a CRAZY kid:lol: when i was 3-6 i was a lil bitch, id bite/spit/scratch everyone. i was the kid from hell:grin: but my parents did a DAMN good job raising me (well at least my mom anyways)


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    #4726832 - 09/28/05 06:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think the rents did a decent job, but when you're a stubborn, hardheaded, know-it-all, smart-ass, drug dealin' A-hole like I was, you don't realize it until many years later...I'm glad I mended things before they passed on.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4726835 - 09/28/05 06:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck yes. Enough said.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: vinsue]
    #4726838 - 09/28/05 06:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

:werd:

it took me years to finally appreciate the time and effort my parents put into me


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4726892 - 09/28/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Mine did a kick ass job if you ask me. hahaha I crack myself up sometimes..
I think I could give em a close race.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: thegatewaydrug]
    #4726895 - 09/28/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I hear that. I used to be completely bitter against my parents for the things that they did, but now that I'm older I'm realizing that parenting is no easy job.

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727032 - 09/28/05 07:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

no parents would be cool, like lord of the flies


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727034 - 09/28/05 07:07 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I'm in a gang...

Crips fo' Lyfe foo!!!

j/k

Ya..

Do you mean raising yourself since the second you were born cuz then you probably wouldn't have eaten and died...

But if you mean like 10+ then maybe, but my mom did a great job raising me...

So no...


And I'd probably be in jail also...


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727054 - 09/28/05 07:10 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

lol no way! i was way to fucked up.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727076 - 09/28/05 07:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i don't think i would have done a better job than my parents did... maybe in 10 years when i have gathered some more wisdom and experience...


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727094 - 09/28/05 07:20 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I like to think so, but I won't know until I have kids of my own.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727359 - 09/28/05 08:25 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I am not sure if I could do a better job or not, but I wouldn't push religon on my kids at all, like my parents did...they would practically force us to if we didnt want to go....
I would be a lot more laid back on them. They might do the same things I did when they got older, but they most likely wouldnt rebel and get into hard drugs and a gangster lifestyle. But I would lay down some rules of course, if you have weed you better smoke some with me..
But my parents have been very good to me, and they still are..and raised me well reguardless.

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727402 - 09/28/05 08:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Well, the most I can say for my parents is my mom put a roof over my head and instilled wonderful values in me when I was young and she was still around frequently.

I raised myself for the most part from age 8. I sent myself to school, I payed all school and sports fees once I was old enough to have a job, cooked for myself, and puchased most of my food, clothing, and belongings. My parents loved me very much, but sadly we were at poverty level, so my mom worked two full-time jobs to keep up off welfare and went to school. She was never home.

Most people, young and old, think I'm extremely responsible and mature for being only 22.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: Skunk420]
    #4727440 - 09/28/05 08:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Man, a lot of people say there's nothing better than your childhood, mine was hell. Since age 8, I cooked for myself, took a bus anywhere I needed to go, and overall, raised myself. I grew up in what most americans would consider a ghetto, but I didnt find it so bad myself. Got in a lot of fights as a kid, my dad would always swear at me and my brother beat me up. He did offer me financial support however and got us out of that deathtrap, and I do love him for that. I would not have had the privilege of going into the field Im going in if it wasnt for that.

My dad was also a valedectorian however, and I always fucked up in school. If I was in the position I am now raising myself, I'd do a helluva better job, like...calling NOT calling the cops on your kid and asking them to arrest him. If I was where I started however, I am not sure if I would've pulled through.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: WoodsCall]
    #4727479 - 09/28/05 08:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I feel spoiled now after I read that. my parents werent really rich when i was growing up, but i alway had food on the table and clothing, and they payed for my schooling. I don't understand what happend to the way I was thinking then, it must have been all that forced way of religous thinking, and upbringing. I feel like a brat now, my parents were too good to me, of course they love me and I love them as well. They have helped me out of so many jams in life just recently, helping with my bankruptcy and rent in the past. I payed them back of course but still.
I will forever thank them, and forgive the way i have acted towards them, mainly negitively in the past..

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: WoodsCall]
    #4727498 - 09/28/05 08:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Well, the most I can say for my parents is my mom put a roof over my head and instilled wonderful values in me when I was young and she was still around frequently.

I raised myself for the most part from age 8. I sent myself to school, I payed all school and sports fees once I was old enough to have a job, cooked for myself, and puchased most of my food, clothing, and belongings. My parents loved me very much, but sadly we were at poverty level, so my mom worked two full-time jobs to keep up off welfare and went to school. She was never home.

Most people, young and old, think I'm extremely responsible and mature for being only 22.




Damn, my response was actually really similar. Didnt have a mom since 4, didnt see my dad much either.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: Skunk420]
    #4727517 - 09/28/05 08:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

At least you're grateful about your upbringing :tongue:  Many people aren't...

I was the only Girl Scout whose mother never showed up for the weekend campout. 

She never showed up for parent-teacher conferences, too.  Let me tell you, that was a fucking blessing!!  I forged her signature in 4th grade on the weekly thing I had to take home....

It wasn't till the end of the year she found out and pretty much beat my ass for it :shocked:

I'm definitely glad how things panned out in my childhood.  I was in a sense very sheltered, but I understood how things worked.  I could see the big picture.  I guess that's something I should thank my mom and dad for :thumbup:


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727545 - 09/28/05 08:54 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yes yes yes and yes

spend time with kids, and find out their interests

let them be who they are, "hair, piercings, etc.."

aye If I have a kid he or she gonna be so happy


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: WoodsCall]
    #4727570 - 09/28/05 08:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

cool,your mom must have loved you enough though to work 2 full time jobs!.. don't feel that bad though, sometimes having a struggling upbringing can make you stronger then people that have it easier..you have been there, so you know what it is like. Some of the really spoiled kids now days have parents who buy then cars and give them a lot of an allowance.
They are gonna be the ones that are gonna be hating it when something tragic happens bacause they aren't prepared for it at all. It is pretty shameful.

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: Skunk420]
    #4727613 - 09/28/05 09:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Well I was raised by my mother when my father left when I was 6. She took on 4 jobs and put food on the table and a roof over me and my brother's head. So no, hell no, I couldn't have raised myself better.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727643 - 09/28/05 09:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think so...

I grew up in an affluent suburb and always had both of my parents supporting me and taking me and my brother places.  My father always took me and my brother fishing, canoeing, to ballgames, drove us all over to our sporting events, etc

My mom was cool too.  I had a pleasant experience growing up :thumbup:

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727658 - 09/28/05 09:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Even the things my parents did wrong, I learned from. If I ever have kids, I won't treat them the same way.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: The14thWarrior]
    #4727670 - 09/28/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Did they raise you to love guns and knives? :lol:

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727737 - 09/28/05 09:29 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Yes and no

They did a good job raising me as a person. But I caught them in so many lies. It also dosn't help my dad still is an alchoholic and my mom is also except she throws in benzos. I don't know if I could do a better job being a parent right now but one thing is for sure I would never lie to my kids. When I was younger I was suicidal b/c when my dad got drunk he would blow up on the smallest things in return my self esteem was pratically at 0.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4727827 - 09/28/05 09:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Financially and emotionally, my parents have supported me through thick and thin. But the one thing that was missing is that they never seemed to understand me. They tried. Oh, how they tried. But I could always sense that I was the black sheep of the family. I just couldn't relate to them the way I would want to relate to my kids.

When I have kids, I want to be the "cool" parent. I'll take them to lots of concerts and festivals, play lots of rock music around the house, teach them how to play guitar, smoke weed and trip with them when they're old enough, let them party with their friends in the basement...shit like that. I'd tell them the truth about drugs and teach them about the importance of safe sex. I'll offer my wisdom, but let them learn from their mistakes. I'll tell them what I think of their friends/boyfriends/girlfriends, but let them make their own choices. I'll offer my opinions about the world, but encourage them to form their own. Knowing where I am now in life, I doubt I'll be able to offer as much financial support as my parents gave me, but I'll do my best.


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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4727966 - 09/28/05 09:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Little Randal:  Daddy...how should I treat women?

Randal:  Find 'em, Fuck 'em, and flee!

:smirk:  Just kidding.

Would I have done a better job than my parents?  I really don't know.  My parents had their flaws (believe me), but I always had food on the table, a roof over my head, medical attention when I needed it, and unconditional love and support.  I guess you can't really beat that.

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4728067 - 09/28/05 10:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I might have been a stronger person, if i was forced to find work at an early age and work for my own food, clothing and shelter..but I havent completelty told the entire truth to my parents about a lot of stuff even recently..I fell like i used them sometimes too. but i will tell them the entire truth one day, and I am contantly helping them out, they are getting close to retirement age.

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: Skunk420]
    #4728703 - 09/28/05 11:36 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Great answer's guys, it's very interesting to hear about other people's families growing up.

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Re: Could you raise yourself better then your parents did? [Re: MOTH]
    #4728863 - 09/28/05 11:53 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed.  You make the best topics Ellemy.  You were also like the first person to give me a ranking thing when I first joined, so you get 1000 bonus points. :flowers:


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    #4729131 - 09/29/05 12:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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