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InvisibleSkunkhuffer
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Weak ass shrooms!!? *DELETED*
    #4724217 - 09/28/05 09:01 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4724224 - 09/28/05 09:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you got some bad genetics or something. or they just didnt like you


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4724225 - 09/28/05 09:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well the ones in the pics are past mature and still not picked

i've read that you should pick them right before the veil tears for maximum potency. although i guess that's never been proven but it may have something to do with it.

there are also a million other things that determine the intensity of your trip. not just the potency. try again.

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: JackTackle]
    #4724251 - 09/28/05 09:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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JackTackle said:

i've read that you should pick them right before the veil tears for maximum potency. although i guess that's never been proven but it may have something to do with it.




that is just a matter of opinion at this point in time still, i have never noticed any difference between picking when the veil is just tearing away and when they are matured. if there has been a difference it has been so minimal that you couldn't tell anyway. some have said though that the taste of a sporulating shroom is nastier than that of a closed cap which is why some may prefer the closed cap in comparison to an open cap.

As to the potency of poo grown shrooms, sometimes that just happens for whatever reason, the next flush could knock you on your ass.
did you eat anything else before the shrooms? what was the method of ingestion? were they allowed to receive light during the drying process?

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4724255 - 09/28/05 09:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Where did you get the h/poo? The genetics could be bad too like Goofy said. Each time you take a spore prints, grow shrooms from it, take a spore print from that batch, grow shrooms from it, etc each generation tends to be weaker than the previous one. I've never had bad shrooms from h/poo, regardless of the strain. :shrug:


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4724265 - 09/28/05 09:40 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You say you placed them somewhere to air dry, were they "cracker dry"
as in not bendy and snapped at the slightest bend? Did you use any desiccant?
Most houses have around 50%rh in the air, so that means that around 40-50% of the moisture is still left in the mushrooms if just leftout, which means you could have only consumed half the dose you thought.

If they were not cracker dry then you very well could have not have consumed as much as you thought you have.

As already mentioned, genetics could have played a role, as well as a thousand other things.


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: ultralight]
    #4724273 - 09/28/05 09:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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ultralight said:
If they were not cracker dry then you very well could have not have consumed as much as you thought you have.





Excellent point! I didn't even think about that one.


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: FooMan]
    #4724295 - 09/28/05 09:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes I air dry mine and the put them on desiccant. Never measured how much extra they loose but I will this time.
But even if they were 50% wet, that is 2g dry which should have more effect. I think my air dried have less than 50% moisture.


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: FooMan]
    #4724298 - 09/28/05 09:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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FooManShroom said:
Where did you get the h/poo? The genetics could be bad too like Goofy said. Each time you take a spore prints, grow shrooms from it, take a spore print from that batch, grow shrooms from it, etc each generation tends to be weaker than the previous one. I've never had bad shrooms from h/poo, regardless of the strain. :shrug:




I don't believe that for a second FooMan, if i did the spores we all started with would be weak as hell. Spores don't lose over generations but mycelium does. generations of myc from g2g transfers do weaken from generation to generation, that is why it is recommended not to keep going past a few generations of transfer.
agreed on the poo shrooms though, haven't had any bad ones either.

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: backupwards]
    #4724387 - 09/28/05 10:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4724414 - 09/28/05 10:46 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Now that is odd. Soup is easily digestable, especially if you have eaten nothing. Most say the first flush is the weakest. At a 8% dry content it was about 4.4g which should be very strong. Was it your usual set/setting?


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: FooMan]
    #4724615 - 09/28/05 11:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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FooManShroom said:
...Each time you take a spore prints, grow shrooms from it, take a spore print from that batch, grow shrooms from it, etc each generation tends to be weaker than the previous one...




I think that you're probably referring to mycelium, not spores. You had me worried for a moment.

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Turkish]
    #4724685 - 09/28/05 12:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: Skunkhuffer]
    #4726214 - 09/28/05 06:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

likewise, i was thinking... spores... loosing strength each generation... no way. there would be no mushrooms left if this were the case. spores have been spreading this earth for thousands of years. at this point they would be unable to procreate and they would become extinct. however, spores stay good so were all good! :-)


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: backupwards]
    #4726360 - 09/28/05 07:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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backupwards said:


As to the potency of poo grown shrooms, sometimes that just happens for whatever reason, the next flush could knock you on your ass.





I think it's safe to say that it's possible to get a weak batch from any substrait. I had a 3 BRF 1/2pt cakes crumbled and cased. The first flush was good, but the second flush sucked ass. I ate 3 grams and lets say i wasn't happy. The third flush was just as good as the first.
Not sure why, but like backwardsup said the next flush may just kick your ass!


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: ready2go]
    #4726638 - 09/28/05 07:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

my guess would be the genetics have been isolated too long and degraded from inbreeding.


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: 3six5]
    #4726704 - 09/28/05 08:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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3six5 said:
my guess would be the genetics have been isolated too long and degraded from inbreeding.




That sounds about right.


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: slammin007]
    #4727084 - 09/28/05 09:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

My guess is, you let them air dry and they werent fully dry so you ate a weak dose. Then you just let them air dry so alot of the chemicals probably were broken down. Sometimes these things just happen though, you try a new print or new strain.


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4729813 - 09/29/05 04:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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scatmanrav said:
Then you just let them air dry so alot of the chemicals probably were broken down.



Is this true? the quicker it dries the better?


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Re: Weak ass shrooms!!? [Re: blackout]
    #4729941 - 09/29/05 05:55 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yes. quicker the better.


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