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OfflineShroomArtist84
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Opinion on bottom casing layer????
    #4721307 - 09/27/05 07:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Ive been reading that the bottom of a casing layer goes 50/50.
Some people are for a 1/2in layer of moist vermiculite at the bottom of the casing, and then again some arent.

I'm thinking about doing it, for it seems like it poses no harm--even though its more time consuming and whatnot.


I was just wondering what you guys are about.
To put a bottom layer of verm, or to not put a bottom layer of verm....that is the question.


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4721328 - 09/27/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If you're casing whole grains like wbs, rye, exc., I use a bottom layer of casing material as well.....


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4721388 - 09/27/05 07:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

no whole grains....BRF and VERM.


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4721505 - 09/27/05 08:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i thought u were supposed to use perlite? thats what ill be doing. 1/2 inch moist perlite on the bottom of my rubbermaid containers...


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #4721671 - 09/27/05 08:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yea u can do that too.


however - im not talking about the rubbermaid containers (fruiting chamber), im speaking of the actual aluminum pan in which you case in.

but yes - some people do also use perlite ive read in the casing tek.


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4721826 - 09/27/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, im not doing anything too advanced. i'd just getting emptying out my jars into the rubbermaid, and gonna take care of it. i thought it was as simple as that for casing(other then daily maitenance)


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4721886 - 09/27/05 09:15 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i've been trying to figure this out too
i will be casing in about a week from the looks of my jars and i am also confused as to why some people put a layer on bottom and why some don't


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: JackTackle]
    #4722057 - 09/27/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

well the answer seems obivous as per the "casing FAQ" here but i wanted to see what the majority of shroomies are doing.


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4722150 - 09/27/05 10:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I dont use a bottom casing layer, never have, done see the need. Seems like a waste to me.



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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4722152 - 09/27/05 10:13 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I never use a bottom casing layer.


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: Roadkill]
    #4722204 - 09/27/05 10:25 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I don't recommend it either. It can certainly lead to anerobic bacterial breakouts because the water will tend to stagnate because it cannot evaporate under the substrate. It was developed as far as I've heard to "soak up" excess water because of improper water delivery as far as suppling the sub with needed added moisture very much bogus IME. You want to be as efficient as possibly as cultivators/mycologists in order to cultuivate your skills as a grower IMHO. Damn I hope that made sense :wink:


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: hyphae]
    #4723037 - 09/28/05 12:46 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

this is good info to know
thanks a lot for the replies
i'll let you all know how it goes


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: JackTackle]
    #4723569 - 09/28/05 02:51 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

thank you very much for the reply....


So in the use of not putting a bottom layer of verm.
Do i just go about putting the broken down cake on the bottom of the aluminum tray and the casing substrate above it?


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: ShroomArtist84]
    #4724114 - 09/28/05 08:00 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Read my pinning strategy bro.


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: hyphae]
    #4724239 - 09/28/05 09:23 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

hyphae said:
Read my pinning strategy bro.




i've read it about 4 times since i registered here lol
it's a great write up. that is actually where MY first confusion came because you didn't say anything about a bottom layer and almost everything else i had read said that you needed one


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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: hyphae]
    #4724259 - 09/28/05 09:35 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Read my pinning strategy bro.




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

read it, understand it and follow it, you won't go wrong if you do.

i haven't ever used a bottom layer either.

best of luck
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Re: Opinion on bottom casing layer???? [Re: hyphae]
    #4724894 - 09/28/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

hyphae said:
Read my pinning strategy bro.




read it actually 1x a week, lol thanks man


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