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OfflineMklangelo
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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: MokshaMan]
    #492139 - 12/15/01 03:25 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

You have to kill someone that has vowed to kill you and everything you represent. And not only have they vowed to do it, they have done it and there is no good reason to think that they will stop for any reason except their death. Wake up to that please. They don't wanna talk. They don't want shit but dead Americans. I don't see what the problem is here. I really don't get the misapplied peace-nik sentiments we are seeing on this board lately. The idea just doesn't apply in this case. Peace only works if both parties want it. If only one wants peace and the other wants war, one of them is going to wind up dead and guess who that will be??

If you and I have a dissagreement and it is about to come to blows and I know you are gonna spread my nose across my fucking face, whether or not I love you does not change the fact that my fucking nose might get spread accross my face.

Sorry chief, it ain't gonna happen...


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OfflineMklangelo
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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: MokshaMan]
    #492184 - 12/15/01 04:53 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know if you got my PM. I was not attacking you, I just replied to the wrong post. I am on your team on this one.



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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: Lenore]
    #492729 - 12/16/01 09:25 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

****first off, executions tend to cost more than life in prison****

How?

***I think it is unfortunate that America finds itself, its pride, ideals and god blessedness in the bloodlust for bin laden****

It's also unfortunate that others are too blind to see what he was responsible for and that that deed needs to be punished to the extent of our laws.

****If the US is really the civilized people it claims to be there would be an understanding that this business we are in, this War, is a dreadful thing.****

We are civilized with a known set of rules, unlike a lot of countries. To liken this situation to a form of business is purely pathetic. We weren't at war when this happened so your point is mute. It's funny you don't see this in the middle eastern conflicts.

***There can be no joy in it, only more anguish. Only a repressed human would find joy in killing, no matter the circumstances. ****

No one takes joy in killing in war. More anguish may be correct, however we are not in this to tend to a particular part of our ego, rather to punish those that killed thousands of Americans. The only way to punish is destroy those that did this now and will do the same in the future



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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #493363 - 12/16/01 10:33 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Innvertigo, you want to hear something disturbing? I find myself agreeing with some of your posts about this now and then, and it scares me. Why? Because if you're right, the world is a lot shittier than I previously thought it was, or had to be.
Still, I have to hold my beliefs... (in a way not as lame as that looks.)
There has to be balance around us. That means for us to maintain the balance the world is currently in, which is obviously a lot better than some of the possiblities (for some of us at least) there must be people like you, and there must be people on the exact opposite end of the spectrum.

If more of us became like you, the balance would slide, and things might even get too violent for your likings. (though I'm not impying that in a bad way... if you understand.)

If there were more people like me, things might slide the other way (if it was only "our" culture, and not a global thing) and things would get fucked around pretty good. Though I'm always open to the possibility that that might be a good thing, I've also seen all the Mad Max and Road Warrior films. :wink:

Shit. I think that made sense.


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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: Ulysees]
    #493650 - 12/17/01 09:02 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

***Innvertigo, you want to hear something disturbing? I find myself agreeing with some of your posts about this now and then***

eh..thanks..batting .500 beats striking out i guess.

****Because if you're right, the world is a lot shittier than I previously thought it was, or had to be****

The world is shitty and if you have a bunch of cume-by-ya (camp fire song..don't know the spelling) people running the governments, we will get a false interpretation of what is really out there. I'm sorry but when someone attacks you, you don't just sit there and take or try to justify in your mind why it happened...you just know that it is not going to happen again.

****Still, I have to hold my beliefs... (in a way not as lame as that looks.) There has to be balance around us. *****

I can respect that..it's too bad there are many on this board who equate disagreement with total denial of their beliefs, predjudice, racism, and whatever politically correct term you can fit in.

***That means for us to maintain the balance the world is currently in, which is obviously a lot better than some of the possiblities (for some of us at least) there must be people like you***

While the earth would be easier to control if everyone thought like me it would get very boring. Just as GWB said it would be easier to run if it were a dictatorship..but it is not and there are some giving and taking

****Though I'm always open to the possibility that that might be a good thing, I've also seen all the Mad Max and Road Warrior films****

I agree.


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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #493832 - 12/17/01 02:14 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Life is strange, isn't it?


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OfflineProteus
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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: Ulysees]
    #530001 - 01/24/02 09:30 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Bin Laden is a Martyr to his people and his cause (which I dont agree with).
The problem with MArtyrs is that if they die - they have achieved their goal.
The problem with America is that we like to kill people.
The illogic is quite clear....

Bin Laden will, in the end, win by losing.

It sucks and pisses me off that the majority of America can;t see this b/c we're all over-zealous media-sheep....

Oh well... OUr grandkids will be reading about it in their History Books at school and see where everyone went wrong.


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Re: If we killed Bin Laden? [Re: Proteus]
    #530192 - 01/24/02 01:07 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

****OUr grandkids will be reading about it in their History Books at school and see where everyone went wrong. ****

First off bin ladden is not our primary objective..

second, what have we done that was wrong?


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