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Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs
    #4717677 - 09/27/05 12:55 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

They dont seem to be growing. Are you not supposed to use Straw And Cow Dung for PF Style Cakes? i didnt really waste that much solution but., you know


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: losfreddy]
    #4718087 - 09/27/05 01:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

what ratio of dung, straw, PF cakes did you use? How long has it been? It should work fine if you did everything right. I have 2 bulk casings with straw and h poo fruiting now.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: bob_smith93456]
    #4718153 - 09/27/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Just to clarify, are you using straw and cow dung inside jars? It might sound stoopid, but I just want to make sure I'm on the same page.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Nilsen9491]
    #4718328 - 09/27/05 02:53 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yea if u inoculated the poo/straw cake directly with a spore syringe instead of using spawn u might not be too happy with the results. explain in detail what u did so we can help.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: losfreddy]
    #4718343 - 09/27/05 03:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

PF Cakes do not include straw OR dung. Go read the PF Tek for Simple Minds. (That's not an insult, that's actually what it's called.)

PF cakes include brown rice flower, vermiculite, and water.

You can make casings spawned with pf cakes that include straw and/or dung, but you sure don't put those things in jars.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: QbanMoJo]
    #4718354 - 09/27/05 03:04 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i dont like what im hearing. its about 1/3 Dung, 1/3 straw, 1/3 verm. sounds to me i wasted 2 1/2 ccs of Pan Jam.. its alright. I did two sets of jars. some with cow dung/straw/verm mix, and the others with verm and BRF. the Verm and BRF are growing, but the cow dung ones aren't looking to good. I did the Dung Jars a day after the Verm Jars and the verm jars have been going for about 4 or 5 days now. I think on maybe one or two of the Dung jars the growth has caught on to a little piece. at least i think thats what i see. i'll give it another 7 days or so. But 100% dung works in PF jars right? what is the proper ratio?

and yes, i did directly spore solution.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: losfreddy]
    #4718383 - 09/27/05 03:23 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You CAN NOT inject spores into dung and expect it to grow. It just won't happen. If that's what you did, the only thing you'll get is mold.

Also, did you pastuerize the dung and/or straw? If not, the only thing you'll get is mold.

I have to ask- where did you get the recipie or instructions for making the jars? I'd be very interested to see them. Please, before someone gets all RTFM, read the FAQs.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4718399 - 09/27/05 03:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

improvising? try to read a little more. its really not that hard to do casings with bulk substrate. forget about dung cakes. it wont work. dung casings on the other hand will impress u. :mushroom2: :stoned:


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: QbanMoJo]
    #4718649 - 09/27/05 06:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

There's a modified pf tek somewhere here.
It uses poo/ver/brf. 60/40 verm to poo and 10 tblspoons brf. Its worked for me but there is mostly verm so maybe thats y. also the strain was pan cyan so maybe that too. But i just knocked up some GT, MR and CAM's using the same mix so i'll let u know in a few days...


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Pixie1420]
    #4718663 - 09/27/05 06:59 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

How'd you get 119 posts?  :smile:


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: doubledutch]
    #4719684 - 09/27/05 02:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i experiment. i got the recipie from a micro bag post, but didnt realize you couldnt use spores, just spawned mush already.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Pixie1420]
    #4719738 - 09/27/05 02:24 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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There's a modified pf tek somewhere here.




mentioned here
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Forum2&Number=4221506


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4719744 - 09/27/05 02:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why ?

These jars are 1/2 Hpoo,1/4 WBS and 1/4 rye.



Doesn't seem to be a problem. They are a week old today. Don't contain any BRF at all.

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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: HippieChick]
    #4720045 - 09/27/05 03:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Haha, nice HC, gotta luv it, thats a fair number of jars there. at least i know mine should be ok then. Are those pint jars? Are u gonna use that mix as spawn for bulk, or case them directly?


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4720111 - 09/27/05 03:44 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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PF Cakes do not include straw OR dung. Go read the PF Tek for Simple Minds. (That's not an insult, that's actually what it's called.)

PF cakes include brown rice flower, vermiculite, and water.

You can make casings spawned with pf cakes that include straw and/or dung, but you sure don't put those things in jars.




He stated that he was using poo/straw "PF Style", not that he was doing the PF Tek. This WILL work, although IMO it takes much longer for the spores to germinate if you don't add BRF or some sort of whole grain to the mix.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Pixie1420]
    #4720134 - 09/27/05 03:48 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Those are quarts.

All are a mix like I stated except the ones in the middle on the second shelf. Those 7 are Rye with about 20% verm.

I plan on casing the jars with poo as soon as they colonize.

I'll either fruit the rye, or use as spawn. Not sure yet.

Let me know how yours' do.

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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4720157 - 09/27/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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You CAN NOT inject spores into dung and expect it to grow. It just won't happen. If that's what you did, the only thing you'll get is mold.

Also, did you pastuerize the dung and/or straw? If not, the only thing you'll get is mold.





Wrong again. Dude, don't give advice for something you obviously have not tried before. Sterilized poo/straw WILL work and not mold, but you have to be MUCH more sterile in your procedures. Pasturized poo just allows you relax a little with the sterile procedures, allowing open-air spawning due to the presence of fire fang (good bacteria) in the poo, which helps fight possible contams.


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: FooMan]
    #4720190 - 09/27/05 03:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I added WBS and Rye, and you're right, it does take a while to get going. And I used LC.

When he said style, i just thought he was doing the basic TEK only with a little bit of his own twist, or style.

My jars, it almost seemed the grains colonized first, then kinda started in on the poo ?

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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: HippieChick]
    #4720265 - 09/27/05 04:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

hippie whats the purpose of useing poo in the jars? Dosnt it go faster with just WBS or RYE or something?


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Re: Cow Dung and Straw in PF Style JArs [Re: HippieChick]
    #4720276 - 09/27/05 04:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was responding to Punk Soda, not you HC, lol!


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