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Favorite legal Drug?
    #4717282 - 09/26/05 11:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Let's hear it.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: novorua]
    #4717291 - 09/26/05 11:53 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well salvia of course


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4717319 - 09/26/05 11:58 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca is the most potent and deep of all hallucinogens. So id go with the sacred yage.
Also, ayahuasca is most similare to shrooms(visually,mentally), but its more like shrooms squared.
The average shamanic dose is far too potent for most westerners.
And a good dose lasts for 2 days------lifetime.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717340 - 09/27/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I dont believe ayahuasca is legal though...?


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717344 - 09/27/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The desired plants that induce the least nausea include syrian rue and psy. viridis.
MAOIS + DMT= hardest trip availible to man kind. LAsts anywhere from 6 hours to weeks. Weeks if you really know why you went there.
The more experienced folks think this shit is not for "fun".


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717354 - 09/27/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Not the plants that make it. Im certain, unless you buy pounds of it. That might attract someone. Rue nor Viridis is illegal.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717366 - 09/27/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Neither is the original soarce of maois B. Caapi.
Hell, datura isnt even illegal in the US, but thats for crazy ass yage shamans who are not afraid. Im afraid


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717371 - 09/27/05 12:06 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Not the plants that make it. Im certain, unless you buy pounds of it. That might attract someone. Rue nor Viridis is illegal.




well, a lot of drugs that are really illegal are legal to buy all the things seperate. like dmt is just root bark which is legal. also you can leagally grow mushrooms.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717377 - 09/27/05 12:06 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca is illegal if brewed. The constituents are not.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717390 - 09/27/05 12:08 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

doh. sorry, im faded :o


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717400 - 09/27/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

And the most effective dmt soarce is a leaf, not that nauseating root bark. Order it all at the same time, its still legal.
In the US you cant even grow mycilium legally, just to make a note.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717403 - 09/27/05 12:10 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

That is why they dont sell colonized grow bags etc.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717407 - 09/27/05 12:12 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca and DMT ...are those the same? I never heard of Ayahuasca.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: novorua]
    #4717451 - 09/27/05 12:20 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

DMT is not orally active unless you add an MAOI. (maoi)An enzymic inhibitor that alows it (dmt)to reach the blood stream without breakdown.
As far as Ive read the original ayahuasca was actually just caapi vine (An maoi), very much hallucinogenic by its-self. VERY MUCH
(AYA---dmt-maois)Its not like smoking dmt though, its like shrooms squared.
The more the people evolved with the original aya-substance the more they realized they could add to it. You could theoreticaly eat pot and make it far more potent, as with any other drug.
Maois cant even be be mixed with many foods or it can kill you, not to put you off, you just nead to fast or eat simple breads. Its the king of brews. Go figure it needs some prep. beyond the brew its self. Just dont go to ebay for the constituents, there are other more reliable soarses on the net. Ebay people sometimes sell salvia and call it ayahuasca, go figure.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717517 - 09/27/05 12:32 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Ayahuasca provides the most complex visuals known to man. And its not a deleriant like jimson weed, amanita shrooms,or even 5-meo-dmt. Its just the hardest trip with the most ridiculous 3-d visuals. If salvia were to be mixed with maois, Id hate to see the consequenses, though im shure it would be interesting.
Mescaline, due to its chemical background, cant even be taken with this drug unless in low doses. I beleive dawsons creek, that crummy old show, even had an episode I happened to catch that dealt with kids on maois that took E at the same time. E can kill you if you take it in too close of prox. to aya or the maois themselves.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: novorua]
    #4717537 - 09/27/05 12:35 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well sadly, being inebriated in itself can be illegal, meaning that to partake of many drugs is hard to legally do.

However, if by this question you mean drugs which are legal to grow and trade the plant form of, then 100% positive answer: Mescaline! (From a san pedro cactus "Trichocereus pachanoi")

If you take a sub-psychedellic dose, it's somewhat hard to have a bad experience, and you'll be very relaxed, content, and time will slow down noticeably.

With true doses, the mood elevating after effects have been known to persist for a day or two. And it's a fairly lucid inebriation.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717541 - 09/27/05 12:36 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

All (maoi)safe to take drugs are far more intense when taken with harmaline(the major maoi found in caapi vine, and syrian rue).

LSD less-so, but still far more intense. SOme poeple even eat morning glory seeds(lsa) in small amounts mixed with syrian rue and have exteemely hard trips.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717574 - 09/27/05 12:41 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Sadly, i guess, Ayahuasca plants are legal, good lord, does someone always have to have to disagree. San pedro is legal though, that would have been my second answer to the post.
Like I said it is illegal to eat ayahuasca, but the plants, The 2 of them are legal to buy and harbor in your own home. Its a fact.
The only problem with ayahuasca is that it is far too intense for most people, and the thresh-hold dose is not like that of shrooms. I agree though, what Im saying seems unreal.


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717599 - 09/27/05 12:45 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

so im guessing Ayahuasca and salvia are sorta the same...


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Re: Favorite legal Drug? [Re: stemmer]
    #4717612 - 09/27/05 12:46 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

100% positive, syrian rue aint worth growing, and psy viridis is but is also legal. Are you guys thinking about laws that apply to the original nations in which the plants were discovered to be active. In that case your right, in certain countries ayahuasca is more common and thus more-so illegal, but even then they are still legal to posses in plant form.
Aya plants dont mean shit unless you brew them together. A seldom known fact is that this contradicts the fact that maois are hallucinogenic by themselves.


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