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Wheat Grain?
    #4716510 - 09/26/05 09:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

hey, i went to the local whole foods and was looking for ry grain or berries but all they had was wheat berries. has anyone tried using wheat as their substrate? and would it be comparable to rye or WBS?


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: mongees]
    #4716571 - 09/26/05 09:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Same boat as you are. Haven't had much luck so far due to green mold, but I'm increasing the PC time to 90 minutes so we'll see how it works. Using a rye recipe you seem to need a little less water than is called for.


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: mongees]
    #4716629 - 09/26/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Make sure you soak them for 12-24 hours to get the endospores to germinate first. Wheat grain should work like any other grain, although I have no experience with it myself. You can try WBS too, it works REAL good!


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: FooMan]
    #4716771 - 09/26/05 10:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

thanks fooman. i actually am using WBS at the moment but have 24ccs left over and was planning for my next grow. anyone else who has had experience with wheat feel free to reply.


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: mongees]
    #4718163 - 09/27/05 02:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

For wheat, I put the wheat in the jars with the premeasured amount of water and a knife tip of gypsum, stir, let sit overnight, stir, then either

a. pc for 90 minutes and shake as soon as the pc is at 0 pressure
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b. put the jars in the pc on the rack, add more water than you usually would, simmer, stir and shake until all water is absorbed, the pc as in A.

I'm sure there are easier ways, but that's the way I used to do it. Oh, red winter wheat is what I used btw.

Perhaps somebody could determine the soaking time for getting various moisture levels with wheat, a plain soak would be easier than the way I describe it. It'd be pretty easy, just soak , take 100 gram samples after say 12, 18, 24 hours. Dry each 100 g. sample out in an oven at 200 for several hours, reweigh. The difference between weight one and weight 2 is the moisture content. Acceptable ranges are about 40-60, depending on jar size. 50% would be the all around good for near anything except the largest spawn bags.

Then you'd know how long you could just soak wheat for, and not have to bother with A or b, just soak, rinse drain pc, just like wbs.

Good luck guys.


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: mycofile]
    #4718525 - 09/27/05 04:28 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I did some wheat soaking tests. It took 7 days soaking for 20g to get to 38g, it got very little in 2 days. But peoples wheat may vary. I posted the results in this forum somewhere. When I dry heated the grain in the microwave and added boiling water, it had the correct moisture conent after 24hrs.
Stamets says to treat it like rye.

Is it any good? check out these texans on straight wheat, cased with peat and hydrated lime. This flush is over 100%BE, 200g+ wet on 200g of dry wheat, in less than optimal conditions.



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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: blackout]
    #4720921 - 09/27/05 06:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hells yeah blackout! Representing for the wheat! Damn right it's good!


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: mycofile]
    #4721516 - 09/27/05 08:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

thanks guys for all your help. ill try it out and see how it compares to the birdseed.


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Re: Wheat Grain? [Re: mongees]
    #4721885 - 09/27/05 09:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Really I find most any whole grain works. Wheat, Rye, Winter Rye -- Im currently using some grain I got at the local co-op, but I forget the name of it. Baker's grain or something. Seems to colonize quickly though.


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