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Deekay



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.9 grams of small mushrooms and aborts in lemon juice for 15 minutes
lasted 4 hours nice body high, mild open eye visuals, slight mind fuck
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briant230


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Deekay]
#15038094 - 09/06/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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would hvae been just as effected just ground up and drank in a tea.
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Hygrocybe
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: briant230]
#15039698 - 09/06/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why not add baking soda before ingestion to neutralize the acidity?
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: k00laid]
#15039806 - 09/06/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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k00laid said:
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a2thej said: why so much? weak shrooms or just love really strong doses?
cubensis are a very weak species.
if you want strong doses. you cant just eat and eighth
I must be one of the lucky few with naturally weak tolerance, because an 8th fucks me up
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Azure Essence]
#15057963 - 09/10/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lime Tek last night:
17.65 grams wet Penis Envy. Water 2/3 Lime Juice 1/3. I find the tek works with diluted, but FRESH lemons/limes' juice.
One wet PE was diced on a cutting board very well, and put into hot water, (not quite boiling). The remaining part of the glass was filled with freshly squeezed lime juice. Stirred, "mashed", stirred off/on for 30 minutes.
Consumed at 2:00am. First alert 2:11. Powerful effects by 45 minutes. It seems to bring on a constant, intense peak, especially with these fresh mushrooms. Magick was performed at around 4:00, (specifically the Lesser Banishing Pentagram Ritual), with intense effects.
If I put my mind to it, I can "reach" the "clear light" with no psychedelics now. Just can't hold it as long as I can with the psychs. While doing Magick last night, I found when vibrating divine names I almost reached the clear light without concentrating. That is amazing for 17 grams fresh, even though I am very psychically receptive and have much experience with ego loss.
I do hear Penis Envy is a very strong mushroom, and this is the first I've grown or eaten of them. Another shroomerite called them 'acid shrooms' because they were so potent, and I think I can see his point. Either these things have more psilocin/cybin in them, or they've a different level of nor/baocistine(sp) than other mushrooms that gives it a very, very stimulating, very visual, powerful experience much like "real" LSD.
Good luck tripping all. If I didn't do my report right, please tell me what details you would like me to include and I will edit this.
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GaneshNoIgnorance
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I have had good success using PEs with magick as well!
I don't think I prefer them though, as they lack the "waves" that other cubes have, which I enjoy.
Just my 2cents.
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carnage11
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A few weeks ago I tried this Lemon Tek thingy everyone is so up in arms about. Here was my experience:
19.7 grams of fresh Psilocybe Cubensis mushrooms, Australian strain to be exact. Spore syringe was used to inoculate BRF cakes as per PFtek. This was the 4th flush from these particular cakes.
Chopped into 1/4 inch pieces and soaked in reconstituted lemon juice for roughly an hour. I used just enough lemon juice to cover the mushroom pieces,(perhaps ~2oz?) This was then mixed with Ginger Ale soda and drank in a few big gulps.
My stomach wasn't empty, I had eaten perhaps 1.5 to 2 hours prior to ingestion. The first signs of effects were felt roughly an hour after ingestion. Very slight effects, some body load, no visuals, maybe a small amount of anxiety if any at all. Because the effects were so minimal, it's hard to say when I peaked and when the effects began to wear off. After about 2 hours I had smoked some marijuana and drank a beer or two, thinking I had reached the peak. All in all, I was quite disappointed with the results. In my own opinion based on my own experiences, the lemon tek had no real effect on the potency of the mushrooms. Consuming 20 grams of fresh mushrooms brewed in tea and drank seemed to have more effect.
I prefer tea to lemon tek. Some background on my experiences with mushrooms: I am most comfortable with around 4-5g. I've ventured upwards of 6g but not exceeding 7g. I've tripped many many times, too many to count, but at least 8 times in the past 3 months. My first experience with mushrooms was when I was around 16 or 17 years old and I am now 30. I've consumed them dry(ground), fresh, in tea, and now lemon tek'd.
I hope all of this information adds to the community and the research and scientific study for this thread. Thanks for reading.
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: carnage11]
#15390964 - 11/18/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i remember the first time i saw this thread... thought it was awesome... BUMP!
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Be extremely cautious of this method I am about to mention: Personal use: 1 Lemon, 1.6 g's of shrooms. Procedure: 1. Grind the shrooms, and put in the cup and squeeze lemon juice on it. Let it sit for 20 minutes 2. It will it HARD. Be careful about doing this. Helpful things to have around you: 1. Xanax 2. Strong sedatives 3. Milk? (It worked for me I do not know why)4 I couldn't understand what was going on. I thought my friends were out to kill me. I wanted to be hospitalized, and I wanted all of it to end. I thought the only way out was to die.
I am naturally a happy go lucky guy. This method of taking shrooms drove me to insanity. Do it at your own risk.
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: carnage11]
#15463638 - 12/04/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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carnage11 said: I prefer tea to lemon tek. Some background on my experiences with mushrooms: I am most comfortable with around 4-5g. I've ventured upwards of 6g but not exceeding 7g. I've tripped many many times, too many to count, but at least 8 times in the past 3 months. My first experience with mushrooms was when I was around 16 or 17 years old and I am now 30. I've consumed them dry(ground), fresh, in tea, and now lemon tek'd.
Try tea with 2 tsp of fresh lemon juice and some honey. All the correct ingredients.
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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
#15464348 - 12/04/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I'd take a third cup of orange juice and a bit of lemon juice and put the crumbles or pulverized shroomz in. Soak and stir them a little while you get the water boiling. Then pour the water into the cup to fill the residual 2/3s.
The order of these actions is very important, because you want to protect the psilocin and also convert the psilocybin into psilocin. Which is why I think it is important to FIRST soak the shroomz in orange juice in order to get the ascorbic acid everywhere and SECOND you put some hot water in that cup to activate the dephosphorylisation process that is done by citric acid but is happening much faster when heated.
But you can forget about that if you don't have an empty stomach.
When I did this it took a while but suddenly it came on quite strong, like the first thirty minutes I was definitely feeling something but after that I went to peak in like ten minutes, It just grew and grew and grew and I thought WTF?!? When is this gonna end? lol
Edited by sof4r0ckeRs1984 (12/04/11 01:28 PM)
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carnage11
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: quebus]
#15464728 - 12/04/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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phortre55 said: Try tea with 2 tsp of fresh lemon juice and some honey. All the correct ingredients.
Last night, I made tea with about 28g of fresh mushrooms and this time after brewing the tea for 20 minutes I added a tea bag which contained some herbal ingredients (black tea, apple/raspberry/blueberry bits, rose hip, cinnamon bark, ginger root, lemon zest and orange peel). I also added a squirt of lemon juice and a teaspoon of sugar, as well. It tasted great.
The effects came on within 20 minutes. Nice body buzz, very warm. Some minor OEVs and some really colorful and trippy CEVs. Entire trip lasted, roughly 4.5 hours.
Overall, there was no noticeable difference in potency. To me, it felt like your average 2.8g shroom trip. I think I will continue to add the lemon juice and other ingredients from now on, just because it made the tea taste so much better. However, I still don't understand how some people get blown to outer space with small doses by lemon tek'n it.
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: carnage11]
#15536205 - 12/18/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Experiment Report. Me and one other experienced tripper tested this out about a week ago. We have tested two strains with it at this point and both have had similar experiences. Results as follows.
We soaked 1 gram cracker dry in powder form in 1/2oz store bought lemon juice concentrate for 15 minutes. (added 1oz water and 1tsp sweetener to make a nice little lemonade)
Penis envy:
Very rough estimate of 5 hour trip time given the times our sitter wrote down.
10 minutes to "first alert" (tingles in extremities for me)
20-25 minutes to decent reactions to visual and audible stimuli.
45-50 minutes to peak at a level matching a 4g to 5g dose. Colors and patterns are very eye catching.
Hour mark full peak lasting for around 1 1/2 hours. Good visuals up to great if you found a pattern to focus on. (like my bathroom tile...)
Coming down seemed slow but then stopped suddenly like being shaken out of a daydream.
Completely coherent mostly sober in 5 hours.
Burma:
Very rough estimate of 3 to 4 hour trip self timed.
20 minutes to "first alert"
30 minutes to decent reactions to visual and audible stimuli. No serious visuals yet.
50 minutes to an hour to full peak at a level matching a 3g to 3.5g dose. No serious visuals. Only whisps and a little shadowing.
1 1/2 hours to peak full peak lasting for around 1 hour.
Coming down lasted about 1 1/2 hours. Faster but still sudden. More of a light switch than a gentle wakeup.
Completely coherent mostly sober in 4 hours.
I recommend this method to anyone who knows what they are doing or are with an experienced tripper. Seeing as we only tried minimal amounts and had a great time it is a great way to make a small amount go far but you could easily feel out of control if you used it with your normal amount. We agreed on about 5x stronger than normal.
Keep up the great work guys safe trips.
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: sin101]
#15678118 - 01/17/12 01:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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wine+powder is great too if done in moderation (dont drink too much wine)
removes all nausea and taste for me, no taste at all!
I did 1.7grams with small amount (1/4th glass perhaps) of redwine and it was pretty intense
pretty / almost too intense full body high, had to lay down! very intense (very acid like) visuals, like 2-3 of normal acid hits (hofmanns or yellow shiva). a lot of CEVs and feelings with closed eyes, i was floating away and warmth etc. felt like a really good trip, i didnt miss tripping more than what i did, and i usually do mostly acid (and go for egodeath doses heh)
everything was moving, the whole room was bending, the wine bottle on the table was like looking through a fish eye lens and then it bent too, the whole wall did breathe just like on acid, same with the floor, it was just more intense than most of my times on acid.
closing my eyes i got a body moving sensation that was pretty intense but pleasant (no nausea like with weed.), floating feeling perhaps..
going to the bathroom was very intense,everything did morph and bend and move 
'wine tek' is something you should try as well as the lemon tek :P, it masks the taste 100% and gives a nice full body buzz and very strong visuals - as strong as most of my high dose acid trips, just a little different perhaps, but very strong visuals - everything bent and moved, the end of my room bent and moved too.
at points i tripped so much i couldn't type on the pc, and i usually need a good dose for that.
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: mls]
#15678827 - 01/17/12 03:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could someone summarize for me? This thread is gigantic, is Lemon Tek really worth doing
Why does it work?
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Wise Toad]
#15692718 - 01/20/12 12:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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. # What liquid are you using? Lemon -Fresh Squeezed ~90ml
# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? the 2 shots of juice and 375ml wine and 1 dry gram of 6-8 small cubes ground . # Time to "first alert" 20min and I knew id taken the psilly . # Time to onset of visual disturbance ~60 min . # Time to peak (rough estimate)90-100min . # Time to first sign of diminishing effects 175min
# Time to baseline (indiscernible effects)asleep on couch by 245min
Verdict...It works to a degree. I would not claim more that a 2x intensification at the most...ill give you all the background.
I worked a 10 hour day yesterday. On my way to work at 10am I grabbed 2 lemons. Squeezed them and added the 1 gram of ground cubes. I let this sit till 8pm when it was consumed. I ate and average lunch at 2 pm then a very small sandwich and small side potato salad at 430. The toughest(and I believe most relevant)part about this whole thing for me was the empty stomach. I food.
So I left work 5 early to be home by 8 went down to my bar put on a phish show, started a stopwatch, and took the 2 psilly lemon shots. I also get a 375ml of boysenberry wine (medium acidity) and poured half into a glass to to enjoy as I sat and watched my reef fish tank, a common after work activity. I also smoked 2 hits of kind, but smoking and drinking here are only vaguely pertinent sine I'm always toking and drinking, but I will list amounts.
About a half hour in I realize I'm coming up pretty good for a gram, by the 4th song into set one I'm rocking. 5th song is longer but by the jam i'm trippin, but not hard. All throughout the first hour I'm convinced its just the empty stomach and ground shrooms, but from t60-t90 I'm starting to change my mind. Im still watching the fish tank but things are starting to change. Colors pop, the whole vibe "purple hazes" out and I am definitely high. The shrimp venturing into open water and hoping from rock to rock is hilarious.
So by t90 Im starting to think that there is something to this. I take care of a couple quick things and settle onto the couch for the 2nd set. I grab my bowl and get out the extra kind, and take 2 hits of that. Down With Disease...sweet. So I'm chilling on the couch and as DWD hits the jam the visions start to come. A few sinister flashes. I do get the brief "presence in the room" even tough no one is home by me and the cat. But the visions come too. The most coalesced was of a crack in the fabric of existence I could see in from of me that was spewing lava/liquid/energy. It was pretty cool. Typical pilocybin stuff. Not the most colorful, but pretty visionary.
There is prolly 15 min of this but ass the jam fades into an ambient sort of thing looking for the next song, Twist, I find myself really getting out there. Into a space that no longer feels to be my couch and basement, a place I can only describe as a spherical dream-space. Still, mushrooms stuff Im used to but not 100 min after eating a gram.
So I listen to more phish, but as the 2nd set draws on my hunger is starting to interfere with the trip. I'm trying not to eat because I would like to see if the quick comedown is true as well, but I also feel like Ive been as high as I'm going to get, no more acceleration. At this point I decide that Ive gotten most of the gram's worth worked out already. In hindsight I was right. I get a pint of ale in an attempt to stave off eating.
By t175 min I need to eat. Im still high and undecided if I'm coming down but I'm def done peaking and need to eat. I go upstairs get some pizza, mac and cheese, and another pint. I watch Top Chef and eat my diner. By the time the show is over, I no longer am keeping track of time on my trip. I'm not baseline, but I'm back to what I would normally be doing if I were awake at this time. I get another pint put on "the League" and fall asleep on the couch.
Today I still feel the same as I would if I had eaten a gram yesterday, but I definitely processed the drugs quicker and they hit harder than they normally did.
But ultimately that doesn't turn 1g into 2g. It just makes 1g hit harder and fade quicker.
That being said, last nite was a fantastic nite. It worked pretty much how I expected it to from reading the thread.
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Wise Toad]
#15703274 - 01/22/12 06:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could someone summarize for me? This thread is gigantic, is Lemon Tek really worth doing
Why does it work?
Yes, try it. Go back not too many pages & there is a discussion on possible mechanisms of it (maybe there are more earlier, but I'm just referring you to the one that I can recall, & that I was a part of), but the bottom line is that it's not known for certain.
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2g of Amazon soaked for 1 hour in the juice of 2 lemons. When it was time, I mixed in tonic water and downed it. This is the best tasting method I have found to date. It took about 20 minutes for it to kick in.
I tried to mimic the John Hopkins study a little bit, in that I covered my eyes and stayed in bed the whole trip (other than to go to the bathroom). This is now my favorite way - just turned inward and processed everything that needed to be processed.
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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
#16325266 - 06/03/12 05:54 AM (12 years, 28 days ago) |
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Hey. This sounds very interesting. I've had shrooms maybe twenty times and I just harvested my second flush the other day. B+. My first grow. I have fried twice within the last eight days, first recent trip was liberty caps(I couldn't wait for my flush to finish, and it was two years since I tripped), second recent trip was B+, my own grow. I had 2.6 grams when I had the liberty caps, and about 3 grams when I had the B+. I am going to take either two average sized B+s, or I will take 4 slightly smaller B+s. I have heard that a tolerance builds up quick within a few days, but there have been times where I've tripped with equal intensity and equal dose two nights in a row off the same batch. So, after giving this some more thought, I think I will take the two average sized ones which together weigh less than the four small ones, and take it with a shot of cranberry juice. This will be done with the same grow but second flush of the same strain as my last trip, and a slightly different dose, maybe only a few points difference. So if I trip insanely hard, it is the cranberry juice. I will let you know.
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