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Re: MAOI + Lemon Tek + mushrooms = ? [Re: thefrog91]
    #11094128 - 09/20/09 10:59 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Does anyone have any experience combining the lemon tek method with 3g or so of Syrian Rue or another MAOI? I understand that this basic concept is the idea behind "gummihuasca", but how would the trip be affected with a stronger MAOI? It's to my understanding that the lemon tek causes a trip to be more intense but shorter, and that MAO inhibition intensifies and lengthens a trip. Would the two combined be an effective and, most importantly, safe way to produce a longer, stronger trip than normal?




Last night I did precisely this. I took 4g of dried field shrooms with 4g of syrian rue.

I munched on the syrian rue before swallowing it with orange juice, approximately 20mins before I took the mushrooms, which I ate with peanut butter. I can't tell you how long the come up was, only that two hours after dosing I was completely incoherent. For a period of time, I went completely insane. The visuals where some of the strongest I have ever experienced. The insanity passed for some time, and I talked with friends for an hour or two. I gravitated between oneness with these people and mental isolation. The hallucinations continued; I would feel like the bed I was in was made of liquid, etc. I steadily grew repulsed with the people around me, who I wasn't friends with, and I saw clearly their social constructions and how completely false and useless they were. I returned to my dorm, turned the lights off, and tore away my conception of "self" to its most basic form. After those few minutes, I became perfectly comfortable with who I was, and realized how useless action and intentions are. For a long time, several hours, I became totally neutral. I had no desire or real feeling. For a time I believe I was totally enlightened.

My friends dragged me along to a movie theatre and I didn't care enough to get shoes. I was stopped on the way in by a rent-a-cop and there was a bit of a scene as he had me talk to the manager because I wouldn't be allowed in. At that time I saw all sides of the situation, everyone's thoughts and feelings. I was not tripping at this point. I was completely unbothered by what was happening and had no problem with sitting in the car while my friends watched the show.
Things ended up working out but I left early because I was feeling sick. After I returned to the college I went through a period of total depression and cynicism as I thought about how horrible humanity as a species is. I won't bother with details in that area.

The bottom line is that I had taken a much larger amount of these exact shrooms several weeks before and had hardly tripped. I am fairly experienced with psychedelics and I have no doubt that I had a level four trip last night. It lasted around 6 hours. I do not know how much of the effect was from the syrian rue, but if the previous week was any indication, it multiplied the intensity of the shrooms 4-5x. I am not the same person I was yesterday.

Please be cautious with this combination. If I had been less experienced I would have freaked out. I nearly did.


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Re: MAOI + Lemon Tek + mushrooms = ? [Re: Lancaster]
    #11094737 - 09/20/09 01:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

So was this old thread like, the commercialization of the lemon tek?


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Re: MAOI + Lemon Tek + mushrooms = ? [Re: Legalize]
    #11095481 - 09/20/09 03:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

commercialization ?


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Re: MAOI + Lemon Tek + mushrooms = ? [Re: Slowlife]
    #11095515 - 09/20/09 03:46 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Lemon Tek works. I mean c'mon, you can see the lemon juice extracting the psilocin right before your eyes. The concoction starts to turn blue. IMO it's obviously extracting the psilocin before you put it in your body, and thus since some of it is already extracted, then yes, it hits you harder but only lasts for a shorter amount of time.


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Re: MAOI + Lemon Tek + mushrooms = ? [Re: AquaKet]
    #11095647 - 09/20/09 04:12 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Lemon Tek works. I mean c'mon, you can see the lemon juice extracting the psilocin right before your eyes. The concoction starts to turn blue. IMO it's obviously extracting the psilocin before you put it in your body, and thus since some of it is already extracted, then yes, it hits you harder but only lasts for a shorter amount of time.




Right. I think there is enough evidence at this point for us to safely say, no matter how unscientific our tests have been, that the Lemon tek unquestionably intensifies a trip.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Nifflerz]
    #11097112 - 09/20/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

who knew

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: scrotesmcgrotes]
    #11097198 - 09/20/09 09:08 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Lemon tek didn't do much for me, but I didn't use fresh squeezed lemon juice which I think could have made a difference. It came from one of those lemon shaped plastic container things, and not to mention it was pretty disgusting to down.

I've also tried mushrooms and syrian rue and totally tripped out. Rue is pretty weird by itself, but it made me want to puke. I never did though because I smoked a bunch of pot, but my stomach hurt because of those seeds. Those are damn nasty too, but it makes you trip way harder and in a different light.

I think I watched the reflection of my visualizer's colors on my wall for a good hour.


maybe more than an hour...cliffs looped for one hell of a long time...


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: tempingasashaman]
    #11097212 - 09/20/09 09:11 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i have never tried this.  i have always wanted too. but i get bad heart burn really easy and if you have ever had heart burn while tripping you would know that it is the only thing you can think about. it sucks

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: drSE]
    #11105567 - 09/22/09 09:36 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I've noticed 3.5 or 4 grams you come down pretty quick around 3 to 3.5 hours to 2.5 at the earliest.

It makes the trips shorter but your getting way more action in the 2 to 3 hours than you would eating them in the 5 to 6.

So its give or take what ya want.

Lemons must be fresh not that processed bullshit
mix it correctly
A blender that grinds them to almost dust
Make sure to squeeze enough Lemon in the cups So its nice and smooth.
You don't want it chunky what so ever it's hard to swallow and gross.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: talkingwalnut]
    #11107400 - 09/22/09 03:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)



haha. awesome :ilold:

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: drSE]
    #11108849 - 09/22/09 08:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I tried this with probably .5 - 1 gram and it gave me a short, more powerful trip. Had me on my bed contemplating and seeing completely differently, from another point of view on one situation of mine.

Obviously wasn't a strong trip because of the initial amount taken but it definitely did increase the intensity, quickened the come up and the time from the first weakening of the trip to the complete end was within 5 minutes.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: talkingwalnut]
    #11109111 - 09/22/09 09:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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Lemons must be fresh not that processed bullshit





What are you basing this on? Science or some fucking crazed opinion?


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: neopet nub]
    #11109553 - 09/22/09 10:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

To me the best thing about Lemon Tek is how it ends quicker. Don't get me wrong though, I love my trips LOOOOOOOONG but there are some days that follow trips in which you got too much shit to do.

In these cases, I like to go way of the business man's trip. Short and sweet.

But honestly, the potency for me isn't that much increased (if any).


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Nifflerz]
    #11109642 - 09/22/09 10:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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But honestly, the potency for me isn't that much increased (if any).



Maybe its just you, or the mushrooms.  But you should feel a noticeable level of intensity go to town on the inside of your head.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11109741 - 09/22/09 10:37 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know. I guess it's just me. But my mushrooms are just fine. I trip fucking balls off these PR's whether I eat them straight up or lemon tek them. I just don't notice a real jump from straight up to the lemon shot.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Nifflerz]
    #11111447 - 09/23/09 09:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Pretty much the lemon tek is awesome


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    #11112026 - 09/23/09 11:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Did this over the last weekend with some p.cubes I was able to get a hold of.

Ive only tripped a couple times before this and with tea previously that was made by someone else with an unknown amount of shrooms used.

We had a total of 1/4 to split between 4 people.  I was told by the source who trips requently not to exceed 1.4g per person as they were very strong even for him.

I split the 1/4 in 4 doses with a little left over.  We had a first time tripper so I dosed her slightly less.  Three of us dosed 1.3-1.4g each and she had 1.0g.

Started with cutting up each dose VERY finely with small scissors as no blender was available.  Placed each dose in a small shot/teacup and squeezed 1/2 lemon and 1/4 lime each in to each cup.  All particles were completely covered as the cups were so small.  Allowed to sit on counter for 15 minutes, stirring a couple times.  Then dumped each into a 1/2 solo cup of pulped OJ and consumed.

Previously with the tea I have felt effects within 30 minutes or so, which were consistent with this time.  This time however, the effects were MUCH stronger.  Come up within 30 minutes, shaky hands (haven't had before), more intense thoughts less visuals on the on-set.  More body load and harder to move around.  Visuals were very intense later on in the trip, however it seemed this time was less introspective and more trip/surrounding based.  I didn't explore inside myself this time like the last time, conversations and missions with the fellow trippers was much more stimulating.

Honestly I cannot say this affected longevity for myself either way from the tea.  The first tea I consumed was shorter in length however we consumed much less than the second time.  The second trip with a different batch of much stronger tea was consumed via 3 shots and the length very similar.  I can say for sure though this was definitely a faster and more intense come up, however I cannot say whether that was due to the quality of ingredients of method of consumption.

I have one dose within .1-.2g equivalence of this dose I will probably consume in the next month or so, I will try ingesting that one differently to see a difference.

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #11210920 - 10/08/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I was browsing through some old threads and I figured I would post my experience with lemon juice.
3 friends of mine, and I, decided to experiment with the lemon juice/shroom shots. The mushrooms that
friend had obtained for us were somewhere at about 75% dry, so we tried to do some improvised math to
guess how much we should each take. They were very thick stemmed shrooms, and its been so long now that I can't remember if they were Penis Envy or something else.

We each decided to take 4 grams a piece because we thought that they were probably retaining a little water weight from being so heavy. Well, it turned out that they must have been more like 95% dry, at least by our reactions. Visual disturbances onset so quickly I was almost a little frightened, I don't remember the exact time frame but it was less than ten minutes when everything had that blurry glow.

The four of us corroborated that each was going to be out of their element in a hurry so we better start on our walk. We walked through our University campus and things just started to go bonkers. This is the only time I have ever "blacked-out" on mushrooms. I have no recollection of about 50% of the trip. However, the things that I do remember lead me to believe that I was at a high level 4 for most of the trip, and was pushing the boundaries of level 5 towards the peak.

The four of us split up into pairs - I'm not sure why this happened, but we just could not communicate with that many in the group and naturally drifted apart. I have no idea where the other two guys went after that. My friend and I were literally walking like a couple of drunken sailors, trying to hold ourselves upright on one another as we were walking.

The peak came far sooner than expected, and not at a terribly good time. We were trying to find out how to get back to our apartment and were incoherently trying to figure out the directions. I tried to look at the sky-line of campus to get my bearings and I was seeing something that I'll never forget - the skyline would look the exact same no matter which direction I was facing. It was crazy, and very distrubing, I was starting to feel less excited and more like "please can this shit just calm down a little bit!"

We ended up laying in the grass in the middle of campus :lol: until we were able to figure out where we were. On the way back to the apartment a girl ran past us like she was being chased by someone. She ran up to one of the dorms and started banging as hard as she could to get inside. My friend and I were obviously concerned, but were having trouble knowing how to approach the situation. Then this girl just stopped. Turned around. And stared directly at us for (I'm not kidding) almost an entire minute. We were dead frozen at the sight of this girl and after she had been staring at us she turns and sprints as fast as she can off into the darkness. Needless to say we followed suit and sprinted as fast as we could back to our apartment.

Once we got back the other guys had already made it there, it seems they had a similar adventure and were beginning to come down as we were (this is about 4 hours into it). The comedown was rapid and gave me an uncomfortable feeling in my muscles. It probably stemmed from writhing around wildly during my peak, but it was uncomfortable nonetheless.

To this day that was the most visually stimulating mushroom trip I have ever had. I was overwhelming (as high doses are) and I think I'm too old for that kind of stuff anymore. I will probably cut the dose in half in the future.

# What liquid are you using?

Lemon juice
       
# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz)

Standard shot glass (1-2oz)

# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")

~10 minutes

# Time to onset of visual disturbance

~15 minutes

# Time to peak (rough estimate)

~1 1/2 - 2 hours (? guesstimation)
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# Time to first sign of diminishing effects

~4 hours, unpleasantly rapid comedown
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# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects)

~went to sleep with mild trip @ 6 hours

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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #11217926 - 10/09/09 09:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

It's funny you mention feeling to old for this anymore after doing this.. that was my initial reaction as well, but since, nothing has been as satisfying of a trip for me.. so I am back for more :smile:

as far as your description and time frames.. that sounds about dead on for how I remember mine..

I felt like I couldn't see objects or people around me... everything was exploding into colors and shapes.. amazing, really.

I have 7 grams soaking now.. can't wait.


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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Herbal_Elixer]
    #11218963 - 10/10/09 02:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

ah man... this lemon trick works incredibly. just an eighth split between me and a friend got us both tripping pretty damn hard. i'm gonna stick with this lemon juice formula, it seems to be a good idea.


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