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Mycophreek423
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: tak]
#5153081 - 01/08/06 02:08 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ihave been doing the orange juice shroom method but i do it a little diff then p you all , i blenderrized it then took it, before i did that i would take between 3.4 to 5 grams dried, and the day i tried the OJ drink it was only 1.5 g cause i was running low but man did it ever kick my ass , all the sudden i took 1.5 g and felt like i had ate like 6 or better so i highly recommend this method .
i did not think that i was the only one but now i know i was not alone
-------------------- I Thought You Where There , But you Where not. It Mushed Have Been Somthing I Ate.
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ApostleFungus
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I read a lot of the thread but its a lot of reading. My two cent might be this.
Your powdering the mushroom, which automatically bring out the chemicals inside the fungus, more to the fore, shall I say.
Maybe the acidity in the juice serves to flash shock the powder. Much like saliva breaking down foods, maybe its simply predigesting to wen it hits our stomach, digesting the psilo laden juice is easier than trying to digest whole fungus, no matter how fine.
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baycafe
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: ApostleFungus]
#5168841 - 01/11/06 06:56 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was considering this method for myself and my friend who will be tripping for his first time. I gave him plenty of literature to read and he tells me he would like his first experience to be between a level 3 and 4. I think the 4 would be a bit too intense so we'll keep it at a respectable 3.
That being said I calculated the dose to be 1.5 grams for each of us (Psilocybe cyanescens) using traditional munch and crunch methods. The posts thus far with positive results seem to indicate a 4.5 factor increase which means that he would feel like he is ingesting 6.75 grams which is a bit too much.
I don't want him to be disappointed either so here is the dilemma, do I skip the method altogether and just have us munch down on the goodness or do I make a cocktail as mentioned above with .34 grams?
-------------------- I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur I see a big light blur. 俺のシロシャイビケッルリプスがここです。 東京スカパラダイスオクストラ
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Asante
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: baycafe]
#5168950 - 01/11/06 07:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it would be rare to find a newbie not impressed by 1.5gr Psilocybe cyanescens, in fact I think one gram dose could easily be sufficient, if not high.
The message I'm getting is that straight lemon juice gives 2-3x potentiation on average.
Psilocybe cyanescens is the Mercedes of mushrooms  Don't throw it in the mix, especially on somebodies virgin dose. I'd say go with 0.5-1gr straight on an empty stomach.
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Pinhead
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Asante]
#5171148 - 01/12/06 08:13 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Check out this link. http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?meth...text=psilocybin I can't understand why so many people are amazed by this! Citric acid helps to extract the psilocybin which is absorbed by the lining in your mouth. The lining in your stomach will also absorb psilocybin but at a different rate depending on your stomach contents. Wanna prove this to yourself? Soak your shrooms in lemon juice for a few hours,swish and hold the juice in your mouth for 5-10 minutes and spit out. No big mystery here. Might be a different story with the black currant juice tho..something to look into perhaps.
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Razman
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Pinhead]
#5172102 - 01/12/06 01:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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i tried it the other night (didnt document the details for you sorry). I powderized 1.5g into a shotglass with pure lemon juice. i let it soak for 5 mins. It just seems the the trip is intensified, but was quite abit shorter (faster absorbtion). It died down pretty quick.. but i was having crazy visuals that i wouldnt normally have on 1.5g
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baycafe
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Asante]
#5172437 - 01/12/06 02:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice Wiccan_seeker. I think we will still go with the 1.5 grams for the initial experience but leave the lemon/lime out of the equation until another date if he so chooses.
-------------------- I think my eyes are getting better. Instead of a big dark blur I see a big light blur. 俺のシロシャイビケッルリプスがここです。 東京スカパラダイスオクストラ
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alienoid
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Re: The Lemon Experience... [now a community experiment - please contribute] [Re: Underhillmaster]
#5172506 - 01/12/06 03:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read this post closely, had to reg to comment.
I tried it the other night with .5 gms and it seemed about the same, the comeon was faster but pretty much the same level all together.
Thanks for all the info, great thread.
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Dr_Mcgillicuddy
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: alienoid]
#5183528 - 01/15/06 01:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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mix the shrooms with ketchup lots of acidity there
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oblivia
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It's very likely that by the end of next week I'll be taking shrooms, the Panaeolus cyanescens strain. The Hawaiian shroom. I came across this thread and suggested this expeiment to my friend. He was happy to experiment with the lemon thing, as am I. I was wondering, what would be a good dose? This strain is easily three times stroner as the cubensis from what I have read here. Also they are grown for commercial use, so it's rather professional. I figured .5 grams would be a good dose, what are your opinions about this? By the way, it's only my third time on shrooms.
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abrad84
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: oblivia]
#5186267 - 01/16/06 07:46 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
oblivia said: It's very likely that by the end of next week I'll be taking shrooms, the Panaeolus cyanescens strain. The Hawaiian shroom. I came across this thread and suggested this expeiment to my friend. He was happy to experiment with the lemon thing, as am I. I was wondering, what would be a good dose? This strain is easily three times stroner as the cubensis from what I have read here. Also they are grown for commercial use, so it's rather professional. I figured .5 grams would be a good dose, what are your opinions about this? By the way, it's only my third time on shrooms.
What doses have you taken before?
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oblivia
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: abrad84]
#5186282 - 01/16/06 07:53 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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35 grams fresh Thai shrooms, and 35 grams fresh mexican shrooms. all cubes.
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abrad84
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: oblivia]
#5186289 - 01/16/06 08:01 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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You'd probably be OK, but why not just take about .8-1.0 grams of Cyans without lemon juice? I've found Cyans much more intense than cubes without lemon juice and I think with lemon juice it could be very intense, even with .5.
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oblivia
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: oblivia]
#5186294 - 01/16/06 08:05 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats a very good point you made there. it would last longer too, and i'm not really looking for level 4 anyway. more like a strong three. not that i really believe in the level system, but its a good indication!
thank for clearing it out
Edited by oblivia (01/16/06 08:06 AM)
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jvosh2
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: oblivia]
#5188691 - 01/16/06 08:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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# What liquid are you using?
store bought lime juice . # How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz)
about .5g of penis envy with 2oz liquid, mixed for 5min
# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")
45min
# Time to onset of visual disturbance
55 min
# Time to peak (rough estimate)
80-90 min
# Time to first sign of diminishing effects
150 min
# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects)
200 min
Please also note if you take any other substances, specifically marijuana and whether or not your stomach is empty- This could pose a significant confound. [snyder]
smoked some marijuana mixed with shesha tobbacco . Please be warned that although there seems no reason for bodily concern you might end up tripping much harder than you ever did on a similar amount. If you want to take part in this experiment make sure to note all variables that you feel might be important. Theory is less important than systematic observations and independent verification at this point.
overall, this is simply amazing. I estimate that it made my .5 grams at least 3 times as strong, i wonder if you let it sit longer will it increase the effects??
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generic_ken
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: jvosh2]
#5190907 - 01/17/06 12:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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thign is that the mushrooms are non standardised in potency. Could it make sense to try this experiment with 4-ho-mipt. This is very similiar to mushrooms (4-ho-dmt) and as it usually eaten as pure crystals we would know that powdering isnt what is causing the increase in potency.
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Freeker
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: generic_ken]
#5192416 - 01/17/06 07:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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after seeing so many experiments with relatively low dosages, i am planning on using this method with 3.5 g of powdered cubensis. T minus 10 minutes 
i am an experienced tripper and do expect something monumentous
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cedricbixler
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: alienoid]
#5192590 - 01/17/06 08:25 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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last friday. 4 people. 2 8ths. cuisinart. lemon juice concentrate in lemon shaped bottle also lime. then filled w/ pomagranate juice. vitamin C tab.
pretty good. took 40 to start visuals werent spectacular, but we had halfs. the body lasted all fucking day.
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Let eighth of powdered settle in 3 oz. of lemon juice for 20 minutes, then proceeded to chug it at around 9 pm. In terms of time I remember up to 9:30 pm at which point I remember just thinking I had woke up and been asleep. There was no time for preperation or resistance, the trip was well underway. At first the body high just consumed me, all i could help but do was lie down with both eyes closed watching CEVS, i specifically remember rectangles and triangles that seemed to dip in and out 2D and 3D.
Then the phone rang, which really suprised me. At first I was slightly frightened and had no idea what the sound was. Now that my eyes were open, I could truly see the visuals around me. My room, which is decently sized at 15x16, appeared to be some wide range plateau in an african country of some sort. The first phase of the trip seemed to be mainly around natue, my house was a giant jungle, I was soem kind of being that was subjected to survive under the conditions. Everything and everyone was alien, including myself. Everything I thought I had constructed in my own mind as 'reality' had been altered to this new perceptual and mental change, i was ecstatic at this realization. Now naturally, this was just the drugs affect... but back to the phone call.
It was my sister, and she asked me to take her to the airport tommorow [today] , blah blah blah, i said yes. Now it was back to my domain. By this point I was peaking, and I did for another 1 or 2 hours. By the end of the peak, everything was 'spacey'. I was a beam of cosmic pressure bouncing off the satellites and planets that made up my room. As i would walk, the stars I walked through moved out of my way, etc. this is the best i could do to describe it.
I had an amazing body high till I went to bed which was around 2 am. I got a great sleep and woke up at 8 feeling refreshed. Positive experience imo
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whatapath
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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Freeker]
#5199743 - 01/19/06 05:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow I discovered this post late. I will be trying this tomorrow.
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