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OfflineKingkole
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Re: GOOOOOOOOD QUESTION FOR THIS EXPERIMENT [Re: kingofthemtn151]
    #5094867 - 12/22/05 05:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone ever tried mush+lemon juice+MAOI?

i imagine that would be quite intense at the 2-3 gram level

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Kingkole]
    #5097602 - 12/23/05 11:42 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

This is amazing I joined so I could share this with you a few days ago I tripped on mushies at a friends house i ended up eating a 1/8 of them and everytime I munched I drank them down with juice dint know what kind it didn't matter then either way i have to say i dint think i ever tripped harder in my life and i was so confused why, well today i came across this post there is no doubt that it works I'm just glad i figured out why it was so intense

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: mrtoast79]
    #5104650 - 12/25/05 11:04 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I have never tripped before but just picked up a half eighth of some cubes, I was planning on not taking the whole dose as it will be my first trip and I am on some medications (Prozac, Carbatrol).

I will be tripping with my friend, W who will also be tripping for the first time. I was wondering if trying this lemon juice method with him would be a wise decision if we split the half eighth. That would leave us each with ~.9 g.

Any recommendations on weather or not to do this would be appreciated.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: innuendo]
    #5104658 - 12/25/05 11:07 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

innuendo said:
I have never tripped before but just picked up a half eighth of some cubes, I was planning on not taking the whole dose as it will be my first trip and I am on some medications (Prozac, Carbatrol).

I will be tripping with my friend, W who will also be tripping for the first time. I was wondering if trying this lemon juice method with him would be a wise decision if we split the half eighth. That would leave us each with ~.9 g.

Any recommendations on weather or not to do this would be appreciated.




Don't do it for your first time. Get a feel for the shrooms first. Its likely that the lemon juice method would be too intense for your first time.

Edited by abrad84 (12/25/05 11:11 AM)

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: abrad84]
    #5104667 - 12/25/05 11:10 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just worried about not reaching above level 1 with the small dose...

especially since I am on prozac

Edited by innuendo (12/25/05 11:12 AM)

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: innuendo]
    #5104682 - 12/25/05 11:26 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Try to get more shrooms maybe? I just don't think its a good idea cos you have no idea how the shrooms will affect you and the lemon juice can make the trip very intense, even at relatively low doses. You should definetely get an idea of what they do off 1 gram and you'll have a better idea of what to expect in the future.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: abrad84]
    #5104691 - 12/25/05 11:30 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Is it possible that orange juice would have a similar effect if substituted for lemon juice and the mixture was allowed to soak for a while? I recently tripped on 5+ grams half of which was soaked in OJ and it seemed a little wilder and the plateau seemed much longer than it usually would have been.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5104698 - 12/25/05 11:33 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

There is no real evidence that OJ can increase your trip, although some people think that it works. I have never experenced any noticeable increase in the affect from this.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: abrad84]
    #5108919 - 12/26/05 08:53 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I think I just got better shrooms then normal now that i think about it...man that was intensely fun though!


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5112207 - 12/27/05 05:41 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I think ive seen somwhere in these 50 pages that you can trip on .25 of grounded cubensis with a shot of fresh squeezed lemonade. Correct?


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: stoner4life]
    #5115391 - 12/28/05 01:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Great thread. Ive read the whole thing and had to post my results from this past weekend.

# Amount of shrooms?

. 2.0 grams of home grown, powdered cubes.

# Time between last meal and dosing?

. 10 hours

# What liquid are you using?

. Fresh lemon

# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz)

. Not sure. Put powder in shot glass, then filled the rest with juice.

# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")

. 10-15 minutes.

# Time to onset of visual disturbance

. 20-30 minutes (just a guess)

# Time to peak (rough estimate)

. 1.5 hours

# Time to first sign of diminishing effects

. 3.5 to 4 hours. Took almost an instant step down from the peak, but was still fairly intense for another hour.

# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects)

5 hours.

I gotta say, I read the whole thread, but wasnt exactly convinced. I was expecting similar effects to drinking tea, fast come up, slightly more intense,shorter duration. What I got was a suprise.

Me and a friend each had 2.0 grams, my brother had 1.1 (it was his first time). We both felt like the 2.0 grams had us at around a high level 3 to low level 4 trip. My brother was even at around a low level 3 with just the 1.1 grams.

For me, it was the hardest Ive tripped in a while. OEV's were intense, CEV's were very intense, and I had one of those really intense introspective trips. I spent most of the peak lost in my own head, dealing with many personal issues, some of which I didnt even know I had. Several times I resisted the urge to hidefrom the trip by turning on the tv or grounding myself with some other meaningless activity. I felt pretty drained at the end, Im glad things went the way they did, I really needed it.

Having tried this, I can safely say that this was NOT A PLACEBO effect. There were too many variables for me to say why this worked, but it did, thats all I really care about.

For anyone interested, here was our basic "procedure" for the trip:
-Had a light meal around 2:00 PM.
-Around 9:30, ground up the shrooms in a coffee grinder. Weighed out
the powder and separated into shot glasses. Add lemon juice to
glasses and stir. Let sit for about 2 hours (no real reason, just
wanted to dose around midnight).
-We spent the hour before just relaxing and meditating. I really
wanted to be in a good, open state of mind.
-Took the shots at 11:45 PM. Didnt taste nearly as bad as they
looked.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Dhaze]
    #5128004 - 01/01/06 01:19 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I just thought Id contribute another successful story about the lemon juice.

My friend took 1.2 of powdered cubensis in a glass of 1 squeezed lemon, sugar, and water.
Empty stomach for 2 hours.
Time since last psychadelic trip- First trip ever
Time to hit - 15 mins
1st sign of visual changes - 45 mins
Time to peak - 60 mins
Baseline - After 9 long hours its finally gone.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: stoner4life]
    #5128025 - 01/01/06 01:40 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

mmm I much prefer the long come up and long come down. I like the anticipation and the gradual; increasing of the visuals.
nice method though.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: indica]
    #5128291 - 01/01/06 08:43 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

What a crazy New Years adventure.

Anyway, my friends and I had a bag of Blue Meanies stored away, waiting for a time to take them. Finally, after hearing a buddies mom went out of town, we decided to go do them at his house, early New Years Eve. Also, after being amazed by this thread, I decided i HAD to try taking them with lemon juice. I have only tripped 5-6 time, my first being a horrible experience, but I realized that both times that i had tripped real hard, level 3-5, it was most enjoyable. So i figured this would be great.

Well, i started by powdering up 1 gram of the meanies and letting them soak in a shot of lemon juice for a solid 5 min, then, took the shot. Since my friend E and i were the 2 most experienced, we did ours with lemon, and the other four ppl took them with cranberry juice, w/o letting them soak in. Welll, in like 20 min everyone was triping but me. And i was kinda upset, but i just waited around. 30min, 40 min, 50 min, still nothing was happening. Then, i decided to go for a quick bowl ride. By the time i got back it had just started kickng in... 10 min later i was tripping balls. I'd say i had a solid level 4 trip for roughly 2 or more hours, with a comedown time of like 30 min.. It was intenses... And i had THE greatest tripping environment ever.
A Pitch black room with no windows and a blacklight on, illuminating every litting speck of white in the room, along with the ceiling covered in those glowing stars... It was like being in the twilight zone. THen, to top it all off, we blasted my buddies surround sound and watched some crazy ass Led Zepplin DVD that incorporates a live Zepplin show with crazy different clips of robert plant and Page in crazy different places, climbing mountains, eating a shroom, talking to wizards, and crazy ass colors. It was like the room and that movie together were made for tripping. Anyways...

To conclude, I definitely agree the lemon juice works. And to finish the story quickly, my friends mom came home while my one friend was buggin out and didnt know his name and kept screaming out WHERE AM I or WHAT THE FUCKs , i was so scared and built up an entire story in my head that my buddy who was geekin was gonna get us all caught, that i left and started driving around my little town, which i realized was a bad idea after the road started changing from huge to small and the stop signs kept jumping out in front of me... finally , i drove 2 mi away to my brothers house after driving around in a state of connfusion for like 30 min and layed down for 2 hours, letting my mind take me wherever.Then i awoke and got wasted for the New Year.


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She was living in a single room w/ 3 other individuals, one of them was a male, and the other two, well hell the other two were females. God only knows what they were up to in there, and furthermore Susan I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes..... reefers.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: LunchBox]
    #5134020 - 01/03/06 02:51 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Tis nothing new.

Friends and Family of mine have been ingesting Passion Fruit (juiced) prior to 'dropping out' for years. From my understandings of Black Currant juice exposed in this forum, I see that PF is basically the same in principle:

Low Acidity
Bioflavinoid
MAO-inhibitor
Vatamin C

My local grocery store carries Passion Fruit, but no sign of Black Currants. Has anyone out there done a comparison? If not, I suppose I could throw some blue meanies towards it.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Edgekrusher]
    #5136952 - 01/03/06 11:03 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Passion fruit has the alkaloids:harman(e), harmol, harmin and harmalin. I think these are known MAIO inhibitors. Passion Fruit also has a pH of around 3, almost as strong as lemon. In the states, passion fruit is easier to come by than black currants, at least in my area. I'll juice up some fresh passion fruit for my next trip and give it a shot. The trip after I will try to preload with the passion fruit juice, and mix my shrooms with lemon to compare.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #5142428 - 01/05/06 09:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I tried the lemon thing I found it lacking compared to Passion Fruit.

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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Edgekrusher]
    #5146591 - 01/06/06 12:03 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Just tried this on Wednesday, with dissapointing results.

# What liquid are you using?
Squeezed lemon and 100% Lime juice from a bottle.

# How much liquid did you drink the powder with? (oz)
1.5 oz. 2/3 Lemon, 1/3 Lime.

# Time to "first alert" (aka, "whoa, something's definitely going to happen")
Around 15 minutes. Joints felt buzzed and stomach felt quite strange.

# Time to onset of visual disturbance
Never occured. My head felt different around the 40 minute point.

# Time to peak (rough estimate)
Not possible to say due to weak effects.

# Time to first sign of diminishing effects
Roughly 3 hours in energy levels dropped and the 'buzz' went away.

# Time to baseline (indiscernable effects)
around 5 and a half hours. Completely sober at this point.


I ate .88 grams (half of a half 8th). I sqeezed a lemon 2/3 of the way into a shot glass and another 3rd with Lime juice. Then sprinkled the powder on top and stirred. I drank it down in one shot and licked the shot glass for powder i missed.
I walked around for around for about 10 minutes or so, and then at the close to 15 minute point, my stomach had quite a strong feeling. It churned and felt pretty strange. Then in about a minutes time, my joints felt as though they were definitely buzzed. A slight elevation in mood was noticed, but from here, not much else happened.
My stomach got noticeably better over the next 20 minutes and my head felt a bit disconnected (but hardly noticeable), but no other effects were noticed.
My joints remained buzzed for quite a period of time, and then seemed to drop off at once. Unfortunately, this was certainly not a trip.

It has to be noted that these shrooms were about 4 months old and held only in one ziploc bag from october til now. I believe this is a huge contributing factor.
It should also be noted that these shrooms were quite potent in their day. Three friends and I had eaten each a half 8th (1.75 grams) and the effects were similar to what past full 8th trips (tolerance considered).

I believe the intended effect was almost achieved. The onset was very fast and the fact that I felt any effect at all was noteable.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: Veter]
    #5150025 - 01/07/06 07:55 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

If we knew how much psilocybin was in x amount of shroom powder, and took that independantly, would a lower pH help?

Is the acidic enviroment effecting the drug itself, the conversion between psylocybin and psylocin, or extraction of the drug from the plant material?

If the latter, then obviously, the finer the powder then the faster/strong and more shortlived the experience will be.


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Re: I may have discovered something... [Re: stoner4life]
    #5150028 - 01/07/06 07:58 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

stoner4life said:
I just thought Id contribute another successful story about the lemon juice.

My friend took 1.2 of powdered cubensis in a glass of 1 squeezed lemon, sugar, and water.
Empty stomach for 2 hours.
Time since last psychadelic trip- First trip ever
Time to hit - 15 mins
1st sign of visual changes - 45 mins
Time to peak - 60 mins
Baseline - After 9 long hours its finally gone.




im glad you guys had fun, but a first time user can not have anything to do with this experiment.

That is like giving a guy CocaCola, and then asking him what one tastes better, Coke or Pepsi, when he has never tried Pepsi.


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