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Best casing tek
    #4713298 - 09/26/05 11:18 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

What do you think the best casing tek is? Im thinking about using worm castings and coir but i dont know of a worm casting/coir tek do any of you?


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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713311 - 09/26/05 11:24 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

your casing layer should not have any available nutes to the myc. worm castings has nutes that the myc would love to get into as well as contams.
try one of the casing teks listed and you will have success.

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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713319 - 09/26/05 11:27 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

do you mean use worm castings in for your casing layer or spawing grain to worm castings. if you meant for your casing layer you dont want to youse worm castings in your casing.. your casing layer is not to contain any nutrient value at all.. like peatmoss and verm with some crushed oyser shells, thats what i use for my casing layer.. the tec is the 50/50 + tec.


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Re: Best casing tek [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #4713353 - 09/26/05 11:42 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i meant spawn bird seed in some coir and wormcastings, whats spawning mean? Ive already read tons of things in the archives and ect... so can somone tell me what spawn is?


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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713379 - 09/26/05 11:49 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Spawning is siply adding fully colinized substraite to a larger amout of fast colininizing substrait, creating a larger area of colinized material.


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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713386 - 09/26/05 11:53 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/glossary.php?ltr=A

ahh, big difference between the two, adding the wbs (the spawn) to the coir/casting (substrate) is what you are saying.
casing is when you add a non-nutritious layer on top of the already colonized substrate.

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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713412 - 09/26/05 12:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Spawning is crumbling your cakes and mixing them in with your bulk substrate. With cubensis people would normally spawn their cakes to cow dung or, more commonly, horse dung. People sometimes add wormcastings to their bulk substrates, but you would not add wormcastings to a casing layer.

Casing is what you do after the substrate that you spawned to is fully colonized. Coir is often used in casing layers, and not as substrate.

So.. either way you do not want to be mixing coir and wormcastings to make up either part of your grow. You do not want to mix coir and wormcastings for a casing layer.. and I don't see how spawning to coir would be beneficial, as it is not exactly very nutrient rich.

You should consider spawning your wild bird seed to horse dung.. then casing with a coir mix of some sort. Search the site and you will find many useful casing teks.

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Re: Best casing tek [Re: Psilovibe]
    #4713536 - 09/26/05 12:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The thing is, i live in suburban ville, california and their are NO HORSES, well maybee some, their is this one place but that would be weird as hell asking the guy if i could buy his horse poop


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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713569 - 09/26/05 12:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

don't be shy, your getting your garden soil enriched for some better tomatoes or your flower garden. ask about getting some and offer a few bucks for it and i'll bet that they let you take what you need without paying. you just have to show some confidence in yourself and go and ask but don't be all nervous and sketchy if/when you do.
you also have an alternative of purchasing some from a shroomery sponsor (Tennessee Stud) which i have read rave reviews of their product.

yeah its raining, will be able to go and do some hunting in the next couple of days......

best of luck
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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713571 - 09/26/05 12:43 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

So let me get this straight, Could i fruit wild bird seeds or would i need to case them? Has anyone ever though about using oatmeal as a growing substrate? Could i spawn wild bird seed into a huge ammount of wild bird seed? Would this work or do i need to spawn it in shiat


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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713604 - 09/26/05 12:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

you can fruit from straight wbs but i haven't heard anything good about its fruiting qualities. you will definitely have better luck spawning it to a better nutrient rich substrate. horse shit or compost will give you the best results
yeah there have been some reports of using oatmeal and all kinds of different things for substrates but not with any kind of great results that i have seen, of course maybe i'm not using the search feature to find answers to questions such as that.
ime casing your substrates is much better than just fruiting from them without it. the casing layer helps to keep moisture in the substrate as well as add to the humidity on the surface of the casing layer. so imo you are much better off casing than not.

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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4713638 - 09/26/05 12:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

1) you can fruit or spawn or case; as you please.
2) oatmeal would work but you would want something like verm. to enable air exchange...
3)yes
4) shit is just another kind of substrate(wich is said to be best for potency. i prefer grain since i live in a flat in the city)

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Re: Best casing tek [Re: navyseals101]
    #4716278 - 09/26/05 08:44 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Hey man, it wouldn't be as weird as you think. Thats how I got my horse poo.

"Oh, hello. Well, I noticed you have a few horses.. and well I was wondering if you had any horse manure. I know.. you probably don't hear that often.. "


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