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 What is your view of the male sex 
#4713139 - 09/26/05 08:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I rip on chicks a lot. But, I started thinking about some of the consistent flaws of males:
1. We can be emotionally muted.
2. We can be too macho and bull-headed at times.
3. We are often unable to pick up on emotional cues.
4. We think that if a girl says "hi" or talks to us that she wants us, even though she probably was just being polite.
5. We think about sex WAY too much.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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I don't know.
My mom divorced my dad and made him get out of the house when I was in 9th grade, and he was never much of a role model for me at all. He had very typical ideas of masculinity (though he hated sports) that I rejected, and I was raised mainly by my mother and two sisters (4 and 5 years older than me). So I just think lots of men are too male for their own good. I don't consider myself a "guy".
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713148 - 09/26/05 08:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree but It seems that's the same view women have about men they don't know.
When I say Hi to a girl half the time she hurries on her way like I was gonna steal her purse. Or she acts like I only said Hi so she would take her pants off. Chicks should chill out, "Not everyone is out to get you, I swear most chicks are on drugs."
I don't have a threatining appearance btw.
My view of the male sex is... "Please don't let me be misunderstood!"
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713149 - 09/26/05 08:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Our pride can sometimes make us say/do stupid things.....
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713157 - 09/26/05 08:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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One huge problem I see is that we men are so afraid of each other and emotionally blocked off from showing real affection to each other. This whole homophobia thing has gotten males hogtied to women as their only source of nuturing and affection. It makes us too needy around women, and way to distant with each other.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
#4713162 - 09/26/05 08:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Or she acts like I only said Hi so she would take her pants off. Chicks should chill out, "Not everyone is out to get you
Dude, I have had that happen before. Even though I am a horny heterosexual guy, my female interactions are not always for the pursuit of sex. Sometimes when I talk to a girl I really am just being polite and friendly and I have no romantic or sexual ideas in my head. But, sometimes girls look at you like, "I know you're trying to get in my pants". If I was trying to get in her pants, then kudos to her for picking up on that. But, when I'm not trying to get in her pants and she pulls that attitude then I think, "Bitch...what's your problem. I don't want your ass."
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713166 - 09/26/05 08:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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My girlfriend is really fucking nice, and gives every guy the benefit of the doubt. Most of them don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.  But she's got faith she does.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Icelander]
#4713169 - 09/26/05 08:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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One huge problem I see is that we men are so afraid of each other and emotionally blocked off from showing real affection to each other. This whole homophobia thing has gotten males hogtied to women as their only source of nuturing and affection. It makes us too needy around women, and way to distant with each other.
Maybe...but God damn...I get the willies when a guy starts talking about his feelings to me. It is weird and uncomfortable. It makes the guy look not in control and weak. I guess I have been brainwashed by society to act "guy-ish".
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713171 - 09/26/05 08:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe...but God damn...I get the willies when a guy starts talking about his feelings to me. It is weird and uncomfortable. It makes the guy look not in control and weak. I guess I have been brainwashed by society to act "guy-ish".
You remind of my roommate.
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Showing feelings can be very manly... it's all in good taste. A guy does have to be alot more clever about it though.
I had a friend break down over the weekend and I knew how he fealt. I wanted to tell him he was beautiful (in the most heterosexual way possible) so I wrote a poem that allowed him to tell himself how beautiful he is. It's in my sig if anyone wants to read it.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713189 - 09/26/05 08:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Men shouldn't go around talking about their feelings to every guy they see. Maybe 1 or 2 real close friends, that's it. And certainly not all the time, or regularly for that matter. Big issues like deaths and whatnot are ok to spout off about, but no relationship/love chitchat(occasional advice is ok). That's just weird.
Being emotionally muted allows us to be more rational. One side complements the other.
The guys that fall in love when a girl says hi just need to get laid more.
Thinking about sex is our job. We are here to reproduce. Which is where the macho thing comes in. Best guy gets the most fucking. It's nature.
But now with technology allowing for more males to become pussies and still survive it is changing what is considered to be the best guy. Tie this is with "love" and nobody really knows what's what anymore.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
#4713192 - 09/26/05 08:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had a friend break down over the weekend and I knew how he fealt. I wanted to tell him he was beautiful (in the most heterosexual way possible) so I wrote a poem that allowed him to tell himself how beautiful he is.
Dammit! It happened again when I just read your post! I immediately got freaked out when you said "he was beautiful" and "I wrote a poem". When a guy steps outside of the normal male boundaries that are usually obeyed, it irks me for some reason. I admit that this is stupid but I can't help it.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
#4713194 - 09/26/05 08:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Men shouldn't go around talking about their feelings to every guy they see. Maybe 1 or 2 real close friends, that's it. And certainly not all the time, or regularly for that matter. Big issues like deaths and whatnot are ok to spout off about, but no relationship/love chitchat(occasional advice is ok). That's just weird.
Screw that, there should be no guidelines. If you are in a moment with a complete stranger and you feel that you would be comfortable talking to them about something deep regarding love in your life, you should be able to. I've had more open conversations with complete strangers than some friends.
In fact, I would say it's great therapy opening up to a stranger as long as you're not forcing it on them.
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Being emotionally muted allows us to be more rational. One side complements the other.
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Thinking about sex is our job. We are here to reproduce. Which is where the macho thing comes in. Best guy gets the most fucking. It's nature.
But now with technology allowing for more males to become pussies and still survive it is changing what is considered to be the best guy. Tie this is with "love" and nobody really knows what's what anymore.
"Best guy gets the most fucking?" What a ridiculous load of bullshit.
You just put an entire history's worth of serial rapists up there as "best guys."
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
#4713201 - 09/26/05 08:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Men shouldn't go around talking about their feelings to every guy they see.
Being emotionally muted allows us to be more rational. One side complements the other.
Thinking about sex is our job. We are here to reproduce. Which is where the macho thing comes in. Best guy gets the most fucking. It's nature.
Yeah man...I just cannot mute my instinctual desires and proclivities. I feel very "male-ish" things in me on a regular basis. I like being calm, unemotional, and in control. I like participating in a group of males, being accepted, and having status amongst them. I like to exalt the more visceral aspects of maleness. I don't want to be weak.
Does that make me brainwashed or a chauvinist? I don't know.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713208 - 09/26/05 08:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The metrosexuals and feminists will tell you it does. Bottom line is, it doesn't matter. Different folks, different strokes.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713223 - 09/26/05 08:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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One quality of Manliness I try to emulate the most is... "Not giving a fuck what other people think about me." So If I feel the need to open up and say something that might reflect some feeling, I do it.
I'm not gay and last I checked words aren't gay either. Sticking something in your ass is gay. Unless you're getting a prostate exam or an enima or something medical like that. Or guy on guy felatio... that's pretty gay too.
Words aren't gay.
Homophobes I wonder sometimes if they're gay but really I just think it's unmanly how they're so worried about what there best bud will think if he said the wrong thing. A dude should be saying, "Fuck you best bud, I'll say any God Damned thing I want!"
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Well, having said that, I was always taught not to hide my feelings, be they anger, love, hate, etc. I suppose it's also the cultural milleau we all grew up. I mean, some guy born in, say, the 1930's would have a hard time understanding this...
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713228 - 09/26/05 08:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey and for the record, RandallFlagg, I write poetry, 
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713229 - 09/26/05 08:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sensitive to a womans needs. And I got laid 4 times last night by a chick I just met. Time to go to work!
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
#4713235 - 09/26/05 08:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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My impression of guys is that as Robot said, girls can be real nice and give the benefit of the doubt. From my past in behaving that way, Ive gotten in really uncomfortable situations which have ended up jepordizing the relationships I was in. I tend to feel that most guys feel they have the upper hand when approaching a girl and can be very subtly pushy of trying to get with a girl, and often times girls like me can be too naive to pick up on what they are really getting to. I also hate being looked at like a piece of meat which tends to happen anywhere you walk in this city. I swear to god when I walk past groups of construction workers I just want to turn and vomit on them b/c I feel and see their eyes burning me.
But I also feel that the way people behave is reletive to how and where they grew up. needless to say Ive been in more compromising situations in the city then I have been at home.
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Hey and for the record, RandallFlagg, I write poetry,
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haha Construction sites...
I've seen an old man (60's) yell at a 15 year old "Hey sugar!"
We were building a new cafeteria for that school.
He should've been fired on the spot!
There's obvious times when it's harrassment.
A simple Hi is not one of those times.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713252 - 09/26/05 08:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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What bothers you about men admiring your physique? That's one thing I've never quite understood.
This should not be addressed to Randall, but instead to peepeepottypants.
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I also hate being looked at like a piece of meat which tends to happen anywhere you walk in this city. I swear to god when I walk past groups of construction workers I just want to turn and vomit on them b/c I feel and see their eyes burning me.
I was talking to a guy about this once. I asked him what he does when a female passes into his field of view. He said that he immediately examines her and determines if he would have sex with her. I thought about his statement and I realized that I do the exact same thing.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713257 - 09/26/05 08:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thing is, as much as I hate overblown masculinity, I think the construction worker thing is just a charming part of life.
I think guys can hit on girls and just not be skeevy about it, and then everything would be fine. Bottom line is, most guys are skeevy fucks.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713262 - 09/26/05 09:00 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's what all straight men do.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713263 - 09/26/05 09:01 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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One huge problem I see is that we men are so afraid of each other and emotionally blocked off from showing real affection to each other. This whole homophobia thing has gotten males hogtied to women as their only source of nuturing and affection. It makes us too needy around women, and way to distant with each other.
Maybe...but God damn...I get the willies when a guy starts talking about his feelings to me. It is weird and uncomfortable. It makes the guy look not in control and weak. I guess I have been brainwashed by society to act "guy-ish".
You are totally brainwashed. Only brave, wholehearted warriors can let there feelings flow naturally. The rest are living in fear.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
#4713264 - 09/26/05 09:01 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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straight Bachelors
(my wife is standing over me)
JK i don't have a wife
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
#4713269 - 09/26/05 09:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thinking about sex is our job. We are here to reproduce. Which is where the macho thing comes in. Best guy gets the most fucking. It's nature.
I think this is actually mens number one problem. Watching men thinking so much about sex i have noticed that this is where most of our problems come from.There is no need to spread the seed anymore.We should actually be thinking about less fucking, the world is fucking overpopulated. But you are right these Alpha types get the women, because women want the strong male too. Well we and our enviorment has changed so much and both of these traits are outdated and useless today. If men would think with thier big head not the small one, both sexes would be better off since this would affect women dramatically.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
#4713271 - 09/26/05 09:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its uncomfortable to be looked at so strictly on physic. When someone looks at you and is interested by you in your looks first, you can generally assume that what you have to say is going to be of lesser concern to them. I like believe Im a worthwhile person with worthwhile things to say, and that I should not have to be considered "attractive" to be worth talking to.
A simple Hi is respectable, but whistling, talking rather loudly about how you would "hit that" to your coworkers so I can hear. It makes me cringe
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Icelander]
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You are totally brainwashed. Only brave, wholehearted warriors can let there feelings flow naturally. The rest are living in fear.
To make being emotional sound "right"(not saying it's not), you made it sound "manly". Seems odd for some reason.
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Bottom line is, most guys are skeevy fucks.
The Scene:
Randalflagg lies in bed with some chick after doing the Wild 'Thang. He knows he is the shit and that he gave her the best three minutes of her life.
Girl: So, are you going to call me tomorrow?
Randal: (Lying his ass off) Oh yeah baby...I'll call you tomorrow. I really like you a lot.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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That's not skeevy.
Skeevy is not being able to appreciate a girl's fucking hotness as beauty. Skeevy is looking at a girl like a predator. No one needs that.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Icelander]
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Only brave, wholehearted warriors can let there feelings flow naturally. The rest are living in fear.
I agree totaly, cause... I aint skeered!
what can a dog do to not be a dog anymore...
I'm a man. Feelings won't change that.
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Its uncomfortable to be looked at so strictly on physic. When someone looks at you and is interested by you in your looks first, you can generally assume that what you have to say is going to be of lesser concern to them. I like believe Im a worthwhile person with worthwhile things to say, and that I should not have to be considered "attractive" to be worth talking to.
Chicks can be just as bad as guys when it comes to that though. If you are a guy and you are not 6 foot tall, with rippling muscles, and a face like Brad Pitt's, girls don't want to talk to you as much.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Chicks can be just as bad as guys when it comes to that though. If you are a guy and you are not 6 foot tall, with rippling muscles, and a face like Brad Pitt's, girls don't want to talk to you as much.
No offense man, but is it depressing being so jaded about girls?
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Chicks can be just as bad as guys when it comes to that though. If you are a guy and you are not 6 foot tall, with rippling muscles, and a face like Brad Pitt's, girls don't want to talk to you as much.
No offense man, but is it depressing being so jaded about girls?
Yes it is. But, that last statement of mine is true and you know it is. Girls like physical attractiveness just as much as guys do.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
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Honestly can you blame us When the rape rate of women are 3 out of 5 have been raped?
Girls do have there issues but guys have theirs too.
For example most guys arent grown up until after they are in their 60's and they nerve want to talk about what is upsetting them they just hold it in and then behind their girls back they go and joke about it with their buds and act like it doesn't really bother them when it truely deep inside is eating them alive!!!!!! WTF???? Why do boys do this?
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Beauty and hotness are two different things to me. Hotness is the slut shaking her ass in the club. Beauty is her twin sister that works at the library.
Skeevy is the club slut wanting to be appreciated for more than her physical attributes.
A skeevy guy is one that grabs a girls ass or such.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Honestly, my girlfriend gets hit on all the time (she is rather gorgeous) by men 1000 times as attractive as me.
And the fact of the matter is, love is stronger than looks. I think you get jaded by the whole thing about looks because YOU are as wrapped up in them as the women you pursue are.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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I see what your saying, but I supose I tend to believe that guys tend to act more on their physical view of someone. Keep in mind your getting input from a girl who doesnt base their conversation with someone on looks, I feel i am no more likely to talk to an attractive guy with nothing to say, then an unattractive guy with nothing to say. I tend to feel that a majority of guys will talk to an attractive girl with nothing to say faster then they'll talk to an unattractive girl with nothing to say.
Plus I also feel guys find it easier to take advantage of a girl, than a girl would (although I do recognize there are exceptions to that rule)
I supose its just how it feels with me, im sure there are other girls have a much different stance on it
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
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Honestly can you blame us When the rape rate of women are 3 out of 5 have been raped?
Holy moly! Got a source for this?
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they nerve want to talk about what is upsetting them they just hold it in and then behind their girls back they go and joke about it with their buds and act like it doesn't really bother them when it truely deep inside is eating them alive!!!!!! WTF???? Why do boys do this?
Why do girls always push to talk about what is upsetting the guy when he obviously doesn't want to talk about it 
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Honestly, my girlfriend gets hit on all the time (she is rather gorgeous) by men 1000 times as attractive as me.
That would bug the hell out of me.
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And the fact of the matter is, love is stronger than looks.
Looks matter a lot. People who ignore that simple fact are lying to themselves. If a person is ugly they are not going to be approached by the opposite sex as much. Their dating and mating opportunities will be low.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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probably freak a few people out here....
but this is why i like to occasionally cross-dress....but still act manly in a feminine way (does that make sense...i'm not scared of not being macho...making me more macho)...
but because of society....i limit my cross-dressing to Halloween and costume parties.
I have some weird sexual fantasy of hooking up with a girl while being dressed as one.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Honestly, my girlfriend gets hit on all the time (she is rather gorgeous) by men 1000 times as attractive as me.
That would bug the hell out of me.
Meh, I just take a deep breath and remember that I'm the one walking her home tonight, slipping into bed beside her and holding her while she looks into my eyes, that I'm the one that's been doing that for 2 and a half years, and that one guy, in one moment, is not going to "steal her away from me." See, focusing on shit like this is just Weak. It's weak. It's a waste of so much of your mental energy, you have no idea.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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THe rape statistic is one I would believe, Ive known a lot of girls who have gotten themselves in bad situations, but i supose you need to also find where one draws the line on whats considered rape
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
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I had no idea the rate was like that. I have 3 sisters and I'm very protective. Are all men rapists now? I've heard my sisters complain about how men suck all my life. I'm tired of it and I'm glad I can say I've turned my sisters into cool people by chillin them out. They've influenced me also. But one thing I've found that's very difficult is making friends with girls you have no intention of having a 'relationship' with.
How does it not come off awkward?
I try to treat the women I know like I do my sisters, like ladies. And where's the fucking Iron damnit! (  )
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I tend to feel that a majority of guys will talk to an attractive girl with nothing to say faster then they'll talk to an unattractive girl with nothing to say.
True. Guys that are looking for action will always go for the sexy girls first. Unless they're ugly themselves(even then they would if they had the courage).
But I think a guy not looking for action will talk to either.
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Plus I also feel guys find it easier to take advantage of a girl, than a girl would (although I do recognize there are exceptions to that rule)
What do you mean by taking advantage?
If you mean having sex without wanting a relationship, then I'd say probably true. I think this has to do with women being conditioned to find "love" and men just wanting to get laid. Also, men don't see this as taking advantage of.
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This thread could go several ways:
1. It could become a male bonding and advice thread.
2. It could become a thread where women bitch about men and men bitch about women.
3. It could become a thread where male/female interactions are investigated and talked about.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
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Guys that are looking for action will always go for the sexy girls first.
I disagree. A lot of time men will go for the "easiest target" if they are looking to get laid. This means that they go for the girl that will put out the quickest while the guy has to expend the least amount of effort.
This is why ugly desperate girls get laid so much.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Honestly, my girlfriend gets hit on all the time (she is rather gorgeous) by men 1000 times as attractive as me.
That would bug the hell out of me.
I've never understood guys like this.
If you got the girl why care if everyone else wants her? I think it's an insecurity thing. Fear of losing them to a better guy. And that insecurity is something women will pick up on, and may end up leaving you for. So maybe it is well-founded fear.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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I think this thread is remaining pretty good at being a conversational thread for understanding between males and females...
And by taking advantage I mean yes just looking to have sex with them. I supose for me it just gets down to the thought that sex should be meaningful. I use to be one for casual sex, but then I realized it wasnt as fufilling as sex with love involved.
Perhaps it comes down to the difference in the fact that a male may feel more comfortable with having casual sex for many reasons, One could be because living in a society which has only begun to balance the sexes as "equal" within the last 50 years, makes it a change in progress. OR just the primal need to have sex is stronger in men as a natural thing.
THe reason a girl may look for love could be the effect of males being more comfortable with casual sex (possibly vice versa). Or it could just be that women have strong maternal instincts, and they look for something to care for.
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I checked some rape stats. In 1996 the FBI reported that 72 of 100,000 are raped(long way from 3 of 5). Will look for more/newer stats.
And I was also going to compliment this thread on staying decent so far.  to all involved.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
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I think males need to learn to realize that things like unicorns are awesome.
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Thank you robot. THats all us girls are asking for!
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Yeah, I'm not even being sarcastic.
My girlfriend has this My Little Pony tape from when she was really little, and it's fucking awesome.
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or they get stabbed in the chest huh?
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Honestly can you blame us When the rape rate of women are 3 out of 5 have been raped?
that doesn't mean 3 out of 5 men are rapists
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
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Ha ha, thats great. My little pony will never die, Im a nanny, and Ive noticed that they're making it back into the toy scene
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713367 - 09/26/05 09:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good thread BTW
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
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Yeah I give it an A, this actually the first thread Ive actively participated in
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4713384 - 09/26/05 09:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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1. We can be emotionally muted.
2. We can be too macho and bull-headed at times.
3. We are often unable to pick up on emotional cues.
4. We think that if a girl says "hi" or talks to us that she wants us, even though she probably was just being polite.
5. We think about sex WAY too much.
Well, I'd say guilty as charged for the most part. But I'm not really that macho, and I don't think about sex that much(maybe there's a connection there).
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Silversoul]
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The more effeminate one is, the less they think about sex?
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
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The more effeminate one is, the less they think about sex?
I wouldn't say that. From what I hear, gay guys tend to go at it quite a bit.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Silversoul]
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I don't see gays as being the same as effeminate males(for this anyhow). Gays are not going to be after sexual relations with women like effeminate men are.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
#4713682 - 09/26/05 11:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was unaware of the word effeminate until now...thank you for that.
I would say I'm an effeminate male...I think about sex and look at porn....but don't enjoy casual sex and don't chase after women for sex.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
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I didn't mean that al guys are rapiest. If thats how you guys took it let me be the first to say sorry! I am sorry. Thats not what I meant. What I meant was that girls just have to be careful with some guys they talk to now a days. I know there are many honest guys out there and some really sweet kind hearted men, but we have to be careful as to who we talked to.
As far as my 3 out of 5 I am not sure that is completly correct it could be 1 out of 5 but that is still a lot. I do know for sure that since 1996 the rate has gone up a lot! and I am not talking about the girls that start making out with a guy they don't know and get almost all the way with him and tell him no. I am talking about girls that are drugged or forced with out any lead ons given.
Why do we puch you guys to talk when you don't want to?? because if we don't know what is the problem how are we suppose to make it better silly. If you guys would just talk to us we could make it better. Girls have their awesome ways of making things better sometimes
If anyone knows the right rate I would love tobe corrected 
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
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I didn't take it that way.
I suggested a solution to the "guys are poor communicators"
it was shot down pretty quickly by my friends...
I usually don't know when they want to talk until they're already upset and then it's not a discussion about what is wrong, it's a discussion about "You never listen to me!"
If a couple would give each other a talk to me card when they wanted to talk about something serious. The guy would know... this is serious, I better listen before I get called a poor listener. It would keep the argument from being about something completely different.
But it could turn into a smartassed I'm giving you this card to be a smartass. lol
It's not for every conversation either.
We all know It shouldn't be so... formal. But if it's serious let us know before we hang ourselves.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
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That is fair completle fair
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
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As far as my 3 out of 5 I am not sure that is completly correct it could be 1 out of 5 but that is still a lot.
There are approximately 147,867,067 women in America. Of that, 232,280 were victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault in 2002-2003. That is 1 out of 636.
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Why do we puch you guys to talk when you don't want to?? because if we don't know what is the problem how are we suppose to make it better silly.
By leaving us to deal with it in our own way. It is not always necessary for you to be in control of our situation.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
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But if it has to do with your /girlfriend/boyfriend shouldn't you try to work it out with that person??
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
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well that statistic doesnt include the many women who dont talk about it and im sure there are a lot.
I agree with the talk card.
Remember that one show where you went on a date with 2 people and when youd want one to leave youd give them a time out card, i t was some lame MTV show. Well I think we should make cards to break the ice in awkward situations.
Other variations include the "can I hit it" card, the "I'm not trying to hit it, so dont look frightened" card for men.
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OOOH I'm using that one...
"I'm not trying to hit it, so don't look frightened"
Who makes shirts here?
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
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then you can wear the Can I hit it, underneath for when neccesary
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Best pick up line ever...
"Hi"
Takes shirt off...
Things would be alot easier if it were easier... hehe
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
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But if it has to do with your /girlfriend/boyfriend shouldn't you try to work it out with that person??
Yes. IME, one party or the other wants to do this right away though. That is where the tension comes from. There is nothing more annoying when you are upset than being asked "what's wrong?", or hearing "let's talk about it".
If/when a man wants to talk about something, he will bring it up. Very rarely will pestering get anyone anywhere positive. The trick is to give it time. Let the man gather his thoughts on the subject.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
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1. We can be emotionally muted.
Yes, some men are out-of-touch with their emotional state, or just uneducated about their emotions. However, I have found that my male friends really enjoy talking about emotions once given "permission."
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2. We can be too macho and bull-headed at times.
Yep, but I usually recognize that for the fear-based protective coloration that it is. Really, I feel a lot of sympathy for guys who get locked into the macho posturing deal. They seem so unhappy and lonely. 
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3. We are often unable to pick up on emotional cues.
Again, I think this is more about lack of education, i.e. "Emotional Intelligence." Many women are like this, too. They learn enough to become manipulative, because they are afraid of their physical vulnerability to males, but never progress into developing true empathy and compassion.
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4. We think that if a girl says "hi" or talks to us that she wants us, even though she probably was just being polite.
LOL I have had the opposite problem, actually! I am very friendly to everyone, and the guys I have liked "especially" were slow to pick up on my hints because they assumed I was just being my usual friendly self.
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5. We think about sex WAY too much.
Me, too!!!! But isn't "too much" in the eye of the beholder?
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
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According to 1999 census data, the median rate of rape was 29.90 per 100k population. Assuming half of that 100k people are female, and that all those rape victims were female, that averages out to 0.0598% of the female population being raped. Of course, that's only the data for one year, so I don't know the data on how many women have been raped in their lifetimes.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Veritas]
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It's true. You can talk about emotional issues without being a complete pussy about it. There's nothing feminine about saying "I feel ______ because of ___" It's called communication. I communicate my feelings in a straight-forward, no-bullshit manner.
However, if you say something like "Ohhhhhh girls are just sooo strange, I don't understand them? LOL omg I'm going to write a poem about how much it hurts. I think I like her, but I don't know" then yeah, you're feminine.
The most "macho" guys are usually the most emotional (they just make an effort to hide it). They are insecure.
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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: mantis]
#4715297 - 09/26/05 04:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Very welll put
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Noetical
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
I think males need to learn to realize that things like unicorns are awesome.
Line of the week!
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Liz
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Registered: 11/16/04
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Loc: Massachusetts
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
And the fact of the matter is, love is stronger than looks. I think you get jaded by the whole thing about looks because YOU are as wrapped up in them as the women you pursue are.
Best post I've read in a while. Most girls I know, at least, most QUALITY girls that I know post a hell of a lot more weight into a guy's personality traits, and how he treats them, than how tall he is or what he looks like. Most people that I know that are that shallow have a lot of very short lived, meaningless relationships than any relationships of actual meaning. It's really sad. I wish people would open up their eyes a bit and realize that there is whole lot more to being happy than having some trophy guy/girl by your side.
It's all about love 
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