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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4713384 - 09/26/05 11:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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1. We can be emotionally muted.
2. We can be too macho and bull-headed at times.
3. We are often unable to pick up on emotional cues.
4. We think that if a girl says "hi" or talks to us that she wants us, even though she probably was just being polite.
5. We think about sex WAY too much.



Well, I'd say guilty as charged for the most part. But I'm not really that macho, and I don't think about sex that much(maybe there's a connection there).


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Silversoul]
    #4713394 - 09/26/05 11:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The more effeminate one is, the less they think about sex?


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
    #4713447 - 09/26/05 12:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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The more effeminate one is, the less they think about sex?



I wouldn't say that. From what I hear, gay guys tend to go at it quite a bit.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Silversoul]
    #4713485 - 09/26/05 12:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I don't see gays as being the same as effeminate males(for this anyhow). Gays are not going to be after sexual relations with women like effeminate men are.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
    #4713682 - 09/26/05 01:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I was unaware of the word effeminate until now...thank you for that.

I would say I'm an effeminate male...I think about sex and look at porn....but don't enjoy casual sex and don't chase after women for sex.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
    #4713716 - 09/26/05 01:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't mean that al guys are rapiest. If thats how you guys took it let me be the first to say sorry! I am sorry. Thats not what I meant. What I meant was that girls just have to be careful with some guys they talk to now a days. I know there are many honest guys out there and some really sweet  kind hearted men, but we have to be careful as to who we talked to.

As far as my 3 out of 5 I am not sure that is completly correct it could be 1 out of 5 but that is still a lot. I do know for sure that since 1996 the rate has gone up a lot! and I am not talking about the girls that start making out with a guy they don't know and get almost all the way with him and tell him no. I am talking about girls that are drugged or forced with out any lead ons given.



Why do we puch you guys to talk when you don't want to?? because if we don't know what is the problem how are we suppose to make it better silly. If you guys would just talk to us we could make it better. Girls have their awesome ways of making things better sometimes :smile:


If anyone knows the right rate I would love tobe corrected  :grin:


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
    #4713744 - 09/26/05 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't take it that way.  :grin:

I suggested a solution to the "guys are poor communicators" 
it was shot down pretty quickly by my friends...

I usually don't know when they want to talk until they're already upset and then it's not a discussion about what is wrong, it's a discussion about "You never listen to me!" 

If a couple would give each other a talk to me card when they wanted to talk about something serious.  The guy would know... this is serious, I better listen before I get called a poor listener.  It would keep the argument from being about something completely different. 

But it could turn into a smartassed I'm giving you this card to be a smartass.  lol

It's not for every conversation either.
We all know It shouldn't be so... formal.  But if it's serious let us know before we hang ourselves.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
    #4713866 - 09/26/05 01:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

That is fair completle fair


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
    #4713928 - 09/26/05 01:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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As far as my 3 out of 5 I am not sure that is completly correct it could be 1 out of 5 but that is still a lot.



There are approximately 147,867,067 women in America. Of that, 232,280 were victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault in 2002-2003. That is 1 out of 636.

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Why do we puch you guys to talk when you don't want to?? because if we don't know what is the problem how are we suppose to make it better silly.



By leaving us to deal with it in our own way. It is not always necessary for you to be in control of our situation.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
    #4713962 - 09/26/05 02:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

But if it has to do with your /girlfriend/boyfriend shouldn't you try to work it out with that person??


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
    #4713971 - 09/26/05 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well that statistic doesnt include the many women who dont talk about it and im sure there are a lot.

I agree with the talk card.
Remember that one show where you went on a date with 2 people and when youd want one to leave youd give them a time out card, i t was some lame MTV show. Well I think we should make cards to break the ice in awkward situations.

Other variations include the "can I hit it" card, the "I'm not trying to hit it, so dont look frightened" card for men.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: peepeepottypants]
    #4713979 - 09/26/05 02:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

OOOH I'm using that one...

"I'm not trying to hit it, so don't look frightened"

Who makes shirts here?


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Cowgold]
    #4713992 - 09/26/05 02:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

then you can wear the Can I hit it, underneath for when neccesary


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: peepeepottypants]
    #4714011 - 09/26/05 02:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Best pick up line ever...

"Hi"
Takes shirt off...


Things would be alot easier if it were easier... hehe :grin:


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
    #4714032 - 09/26/05 02:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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But if it has to do with your /girlfriend/boyfriend shouldn't you try to work it out with that person??



Yes.  IME, one party or the other wants to do this right away though.  That is where the tension comes from.  There is nothing more annoying when you are upset than being asked "what's wrong?", or hearing "let's talk about it". 
If/when a man wants to talk about something, he will bring it up.  Very rarely will pestering get anyone anywhere positive.  The trick is to give it time.  Let the man gather his thoughts on the subject.


I want in on this shirt idea. :money:


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: daimyo]
    #4714039 - 09/26/05 02:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Males are chauvinistic pigs. :mad2:


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #4714102 - 09/26/05 02:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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1.  We can be emotionally muted.




Yes, some men are out-of-touch with their emotional state, or just uneducated about their emotions. However, I have found that my male friends really enjoy talking about emotions once given "permission."

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2.  We can be too macho and bull-headed at times.




Yep, but I usually recognize that for the fear-based protective coloration that it is. :wink:  Really, I feel a lot of sympathy for guys who get locked into the macho posturing deal.  They seem so unhappy and lonely.  :frown:

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3.  We are often unable to pick up on emotional cues.




Again, I think this is more about lack of education, i.e. "Emotional Intelligence."  Many women are like this, too.  They learn enough to become manipulative, because they are afraid of their physical vulnerability to males, but never progress into developing true empathy and compassion.

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4.  We think that if a girl says "hi" or talks to us that she wants us, even though she probably was just being polite.




LOL  I have had the opposite problem, actually!  I am very friendly to everyone, and the guys I have liked "especially" were slow to pick up on my hints because they assumed I was just being my usual friendly self. :grin:

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5.  We think about sex WAY too much.




Me, too!!!!  :wink:  But isn't "too much" in the eye of the beholder?


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: KristiMidocean]
    #4714858 - 09/26/05 04:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

According to 1999 census data, the median rate of rape was 29.90 per 100k population. Assuming half of that 100k people are female, and that all those rape victims were female, that averages out to 0.0598% of the female population being raped. Of course, that's only the data for one year, so I don't know the data on how many women have been raped in their lifetimes.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: Veritas]
    #4714900 - 09/26/05 04:48 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It's true. You can talk about emotional issues without being a complete pussy about it. There's nothing feminine about saying "I feel ______ because of ___" It's called communication. I communicate my feelings in a straight-forward, no-bullshit manner.

However, if you say something like "Ohhhhhh girls are just sooo strange, I don't understand them? LOL omg I'm going to write a poem about how much it hurts. I think I like her, but I don't know" then yeah, you're feminine.

The most "macho" guys are usually the most emotional (they just make an effort to hide it). They are insecure.


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Re: What is your view of the male sex [Re: mantis]
    #4715297 - 09/26/05 06:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Very welll put


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