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felixhigh
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old sterile cakes - useless???
#470768 - 11/27/01 12:31 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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my wookie friend still has some old cakes (3, 4 months old, they just dont die!) of non fruiting cubes, he wants to know its going to sector if put in agar and then a rhizo (fruiting) strain could be isolated... he thinks he heard that mycelium can go homogeneous with time... is it right?
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Anno
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Re: old sterile cakes - useless??? [Re: felixhigh]
#471027 - 11/27/01 10:34 AM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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If they don?t fruit as a cake after 4 months, then chances are that they won?t fruit anyway whatever you attempt with them.
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Re: old sterile cakes - useless??? [Re: felixhigh]
#471422 - 11/27/01 06:07 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Try breaking them up and soaking them in an acidic juice like o.j.or cranberry. Filter out the cake chunks using cheese cloth, and injest. This won't grow shrooms but will trip you just the same. Joshua
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Re: old sterile cakes - useless??? [Re: Joshua]
#471436 - 11/27/01 06:16 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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you could try casing them in compost. I have done this with cakes that stoped flushing and gotten more out of them
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felixhigh
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Re: old sterile cakes - useless??? [Re: Anno]
#471673 - 11/27/01 08:58 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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is it impression of mine or the more quantity of spores you use, more is the chance of getting a fruitless mycelium (under PF/mmgg or alikes)???
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Re: old sterile cakes - useless??? [Re: felixhigh]
#473064 - 11/28/01 11:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago) |
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Chances are they're not going to fruit... sometimes you can crumble up your old cakes (that did fruit) and toss them in some compost or even just potting soil somewhere outside and get fruits. Doesn't work most of the time but every now and then you'll get a nice little present : ) .... could possibly use the mycelium to make a syringe to clone from, dunno how well that'd work. You could probably crumble it up some, put in a coffee grinder and grind it up, pour some peroxide on it and let it bubble for a few minutes then suck it up in a syringe and use that to innoculate cakes. Probably pointless being as you could just clone from one of the shrooms or make a spore syringe, but its something to try out if you ever get bored. Actually, I think I'm going to try that out and see if it effects the growth or anything any. Who knows, heh. (btw, that tek is a "sterile tissue cloning" technique from lizard king, it was posted a few months back, might be in the teks here or at the forest floor)
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Edited by DarK_SavioR (11/29/01 10:58 AM)
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