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Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil?
    #4707042 - 09/24/05 10:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It is a highly addictive drug, but governments everywhere encourage its use
Oct issue Prospect Magazine Richard Dawkins

Gerin oil (or Geriniol to give it its scientific name) is a powerful drug which acts directly on the central nervous system to produce a range of characteristic symptoms, often of an antisocial or self- damaging nature. If administered chronically in childhood, Gerin oil can permanently modify the brain to produce adult disorders, including dangerous delusions which have proved very hard to treat. The four doomed flights of 11th September were, in a very real sense, Gerin oil trips: all 19 of the hijackers were high on the drug at the time. Historically, Geriniol intoxication was responsible for atrocities such as the Salem witch hunts and the massacres of native South Americans by conquistadores. Gerin oil fuelled most of the wars of the European middle ages and, in more recent times, the carnage that attended the partitioning of the Indian subcontinent and, on a smaller scale, Ireland.

Gerin oil addiction can drive previously sane individuals to run away from a normally fulfilled human life and retreat to closed communities from which all but confirmed addicts are excluded. These communities are nearly always limited to one sex, and they vigorously, often obsessively, forbid sexual activity. Indeed, a tendency towards agonised sexual prohibition emerges as a drably recurring theme amid all the colourful variations of Gerin oil symptomatology. Gerin oil does not seem to reduce the libido per se, but it frequently leads to a prurient desire to interfere with, and preferably reduce, the sexual pleasure of others. A current example is the horror with which Gerin oil users view homosexuality, even when expressed in long-term loving relationships.

Gerin oil in strong doses can be hallucinogenic. Hardcore mainliners may hear voices in their heads, or see illusions which seem to the sufferers so real that they often succeed in persuading others of their reality. An individual who reports high-grade hallucinogenic experiences may be venerated, and even followed as some kind of leader, by others who regard themselves as less fortunate. Such following-pathology can long postdate the leader's death, and may expand into bizarre psychedelia such as the cannibalistic fantasy of "drinking the blood and eating the flesh" of the leader.

Strong doses of Geriniol can also lead to "bad trips," in which the user can suffer morbid delusions and fears, notably fears of being tortured, not in the real world but in a postmortem fantasy world. Bad trips of this kind are bound up with a punishment culture which is as characteristic of this drug as the obsessive fear of sexuality already noted. The punishment culture fostered by Gerin oil culminates in the sinister drug-induced fantasy of "allo-punishment"—the belief that individuals can and should be punished for the wrongdoings of others (known on the in-group grapevine as "redemption").

Medium doses of Gerin oil, though not in themselves dangerous, can distort perceptions of reality. Beliefs that have no basis in fact are immunised, by the drug's own direct effects on the nervous system, against evidence from the real world. Oil-heads can be heard talking to thin air or muttering to themselves, apparently in the belief that private wishes so expressed will come true, even at the cost of mild violation of the laws of physics. This autolocutory disorder is often accompanied by weird tics, hand gestures or other stereotypies, for example rhythmic head-nodding towards a wall.

As with many drugs, refined Gerin oil in low doses is largely harmless, and can even serve as a social lubricant on occasions such as marriages, funerals and ceremonies of state. Experts differ over whether such social use, though harmless in itself, is a risk factor for upgrading to harder and more addictive forms of the drug.

Gerin oil acts synergistically with sleep deprivation, self-mutilation and starvation. Addicts have been known to fast, whip their own backs, or perform other painful "penances" as means of enhancing the drug's potency. Mutilation is not limited to users themselves. Various Gerin oil-based sub-cultures ritually injure their own children, especially when they are too young to resist. These mutilations usually involve the genitals.

You might think that such a potentially dangerous and addictive drug would top the list of proscribed substances, with exemplary sentences handed out for trafficking in it. But no, it is readily obtainable anywhere in the world and you don't even need a prescription. Professional pushers are numerous, and organised in hierarchical cartels, openly trading on street corners and even in purpose-made buildings. Some of these cartels are adept at parting clients from their money. Their "godfathers" occupy influential positions in high places, and they have the ear of presidents and prime ministers. Governments don't just turn a blind eye to the trade, they grant it tax-exempt status. Worse, they subsidise schools with the specific intention of getting children hooked.

I was prompted to write this article by the smiling face of a very happy man in Bali (see picture). He was ecstatically greeting the news that he was to be executed by firing squad for the brutal murder of large numbers of innocent holidaymakers whom he had never met. Some people in the court were shocked at his lack of remorse. But far from remorseful, his mood was one of obvious exhilaration. He punched the air, delirious with joy that he was to be "martyred," to use the jargon of his particular sub-culture of Gerin oil substance-abusers. For, make no mistake about it, this beatific smile, looking forward with unalloyed pleasure to the firing squad, is the smile of a junkie. Here we have the archetypal mainliner, doped up with hard, unrefined, unadulterated, high-octane Gerin oil.

It is easy to regard such people as evil criminals, from whom the rest of us need protection. Indeed, we do need protecting from them. But the problem would not arise in the first place if children were protected from becoming hooked on a drug with such a bad prognosis for their adult minds.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: veggie]
    #4707056 - 09/24/05 10:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Richard Dawkins is a great man; at least a scientific genius, if not one of the greatest minds in the modern age.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Ravus]
    #4707253 - 09/24/05 11:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

gerin oil? never heard of it... what is ot derived from?


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4707259 - 09/24/05 11:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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gerin oil? never heard of it... what is ot derived from?



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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Silversoul]
    #4707617 - 09/25/05 12:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh i get it.. its an anagram... gerinoil = religion


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4707638 - 09/25/05 01:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: veggie]
    #4707950 - 09/25/05 02:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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But the problem would not arise in the first place if children were protected from becoming hooked on a drug with such a bad prognosis for their adult minds.
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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: crunchytoast]
    #4708713 - 09/25/05 08:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

there is no panacea
have to keep waking up to new beauty and new perversion


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: veggie]
    #4708810 - 09/25/05 09:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't say it's the root of "all" evil. Just a lot of it. It's really just a tool of governments in the herding of the flock. Govt's are the bigger evil if you ask me. And maybe ultimately the fear in each person is even bigger.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: veggie]
    #4708814 - 09/25/05 09:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"The root of 'all' evil, is the thought of being good.."
-Unknown :P

(not saying you need evil to have good, nor saying you need not need.. But, .. one spot as the same... )


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Gomp]
    #4708822 - 09/25/05 09:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i think most evil comes out of an honest desire to help people... people who want to save the world are the most evil... adolph hitler, an easy candidate for history's most evil mofo, had a plan he was sure would save the world... he convinced a whole bunch of well meaning others of his vision for a perfect world and they set out to make it a reality... with horrific results...


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: veggie]
    #4708924 - 09/25/05 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting article: it torches fundamentalist religion but promotes closed-minded drug propaganda.

Thats kinda counter-productive. Instead of attacking the closedmindedness of the followers you anger them by slandering what they hold most dear. Strange..

Many great things have been done in the name of assorted religions too.
If I'm hungry and got nothing to eat I'd much rather be in Islamabad on the day of Id-Al-Fitr (or any evening of Ramadan before it) than in the streets of LA where I get "fuck off you bum" for dinner... unless I go to the (Christian) Salvation army.

It's too easy to rag on religion. The problem lies much deeper, in the hearts of man, and thats where this battle should be fought.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Asante]
    #4709114 - 09/25/05 11:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Interesting article: it torches fundamentalist religion but promotes closed-minded drug propaganda.

Thats kinda counter-productive. Instead of attacking the closedmindedness of the followers you anger them by slandering what they hold most dear. Strange..

Many great things have been done in the name of assorted religions too.
If I'm hungry and got nothing to eat I'd much rather be in Islamabad on the day of Id-Al-Fitr (or any evening of Ramadan before it) than in the streets of LA where I get "fuck off you bum" for dinner... unless I go to the (Christian) Salvation army.

It's too easy to rag on religion. The problem lies much deeper, in the hearts of man, and thats where this battle should be fought.




Yet religion is a method of the brainwashing and mindless faith so that the animal instinct in humans can be exploited to commit mass murder, rape, genocide and torture from individuals who otherwise wouldn't be so messed up. Religion is coercion to another path, a path where many aren't even supposed to question where they're going, simply putting their faith in religion to guide them.

The fact that children are often brainwashed into the religion starting around the time they can talk doesn't help the issue.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Ravus]
    #4709126 - 09/25/05 11:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

the point is that like drugs religion has also has a positive side. would you be whole heartedly agreeing if this article was actually about the evils of a drug? say shrooms for instance? or would you be crying out that they are ingoring the postives?


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Deviate]
    #4709363 - 09/25/05 01:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What is the positive side to religion? I mean one that you could not accomplish just as easy without religion.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: veggie]
    #4709385 - 09/25/05 01:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The "Will to Meaning" is the metamotive put forth by the late great psychiatrist (an Auschwitz survivor) Dr. Victor Frankl. The Will to Meaning is occurs on multidimensional, beginning even on a sensory level wherein an irregularly drawn line on a chalkboard can be perceived as a famous individual's facial profile - without depth, shading or any other features.

On increasingly subtle mental levels, Meaning can be discerned in coincidences of inner and outer events: synchronicity being the most striking, but seemingly telepathic moments wherein people think/speak exactly the same words at the same time is a related example. The notion that 'things happen in threes,' and other sayings referred to as superstition also derive from the human ability to seek Meaning in seemingly unrelated or random events.

The ritualization of Meaning in an Ultimate sense is what constitutes religion, but without the subjective [human] pole of consciousness being firmly convinced that it must be rooted in Compassion, any religion quickly assumes the nature of power and paranoia. Power contributes the non-rational affective 'drive' toward manipulation or conquest, and paranoia (which has two faces: delusions of grandeur and persecution delusions) contributes the intellectualization and highly distorted rationale for its viewpoint.

The degradation from Compassion to power as the metamotive can be seen in any and all perversions of religion. From a perspective of Yoga psychology, religion becomes a manifestation of Manipura [same Indo-Aryan root as Manipu-lation] or 3rd chakra motivation. In the West, Christ epitomizes Compassion, in the East it is Buddha. C.G. Jung recognized both persons as historical embodiments of the Self - the central archetype of wholeness (or holiness). Without a firm grasp on the importance of remaining centered in Compassion, history has shown time and again that mankind's actions degrade from lovingkindness to power (based on distorted, Compassion-free ideology): Crusades, pogroms, witch-hunts, genocide.

Meaning can be viewed as a 5th chakra motive, which places it as a development beyond the 4th chakra characterized by Compassion. This means that any perception of Meaning that is grounded in 3rd chakra Power is automatically a distortion of Reality and a perversion of Truth. It is then no wonder that the Nazi 'meaning' of life, rooted in the 3rd chakra took its symbol (the swastika) from the 3rd chakra! It is true that the Yogic description of the Manipura chakra is a triangle surrounded by 3 swastikas (Sir John Woodruff's The Serpent Power). This is the most poignant example of a degenerated form of religion, for in that case, the state took religious meaning from Indo-Aryan mythology and Indian metaphysics.

It further becomes no surprise that Hitler modelled his Reich after the Holy Roman Empire: its standards, pomp and ceremony, hierarchy, proposed architecture, etc. since the Roman Catholic Church became the paradigmatic example of degraded religion - the source of all the atrocities named above.

The word religion, by the mid 20th century, became as devalued as the word love has. My 2 cents.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4709551 - 09/25/05 02:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

" What is the positive side to religion? I mean one that you could not accomplish just as easy without religion. "


define religion


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Deviate]
    #4709566 - 09/25/05 02:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/r/r0140600.html
re?li?gion
1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.


Religion is useful only for control, power and conformity.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Ravus]
    #4709707 - 09/25/05 02:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)


n.
Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.


A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.




The life or condition of a person in a religious order.


A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.


A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.



both the last 2 definitions have application outside of mere control and comformity. for example buddha encouraged people to think for themselves and not to believe things merely because that's what they had been told. jesus also constantly challenged the religious authorities of his time. its very easy to see how religion can have positive affects on an individual.


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Re: Is 'Gerin oil' the root of all evil? [Re: Deviate]
    #4709750 - 09/25/05 02:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The Buddha and Jesus were not religious. You don't have to be religious to use them as examples of how to live.


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