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substrate comparison questions
    #4703565 - 09/24/05 03:15 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hello,

From looking around this site I see that there are a number of possible substrates that mushrooms can grow on. From BRF, WBS, Rye, and even popcorn, all these materials provide the proper nutrients for germination/growth.

My question to everyone is the main difference between all of these in terms of colonization speed? Or do these different substrates affect possible yields?

I had thought that proper fruiting conditions, and type of casing material are what makes the difference, but then I am here to learn:)

I have yet to get a PC so my only experiences are with BRF with vermiculite or peat moss casings.

any responses, ideas, or even scientific explanations encouraged are greatly appreciated!

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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: jvosh1]
    #4703768 - 09/24/05 04:05 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:shrug:


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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: ThumpaCap]
    #4704232 - 09/24/05 08:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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ThumpaCap said:
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What's the point of this?


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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: FooMan]
    #4704373 - 09/24/05 10:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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What's the point of this?





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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: jvosh1]
    #4704378 - 09/24/05 10:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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jvosh1 said:
My question to everyone is the main difference between all of these in terms of colonization speed? Or do these different substrates affect possible yields?




some substrates provide a little more or more complete nutrition for the mushrooms
to grow, WBS does better than popcorn in my experience, oats groats
work quite well but it's more difficult to achieve the proper water content


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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4704379 - 09/24/05 10:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for all the valuable input fella's, go to sleep.

As for the Subtrate, poo is the best, bar-none. But i have had great luck with Rye, it colonizes very quick and the BRF (when you make it your self, the fine ground sucks) is very good too, Popcorn and WBS are more for spawning to poo.


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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: Cub_Mycologist]
    #4704410 - 09/24/05 10:33 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ive had good success with WBS, and it's easy to get too if your health food store doesnt carry rye (mine has to special order it). Havent gone back since I went to poo, but on my first casing i used WBS and got over 2 oz dry from 2qt jars.


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Re: substrate comparison questions [Re: rygo796]
    #4704471 - 09/24/05 11:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

As I understand it the nutritional value of each substrate is different, the size is different, and the surface area of each grain varies too. Hence you will have a different growth rate, especialy during the incubation period. IMO BRF is the slowest, and cracked corn the fastest for me so far.
If your using your incubated substrate as a cake or just casing the colonized substrate, you may notice a difference in each (ie # of flushes, potency, size)... on the other hand if you use it to spawn to poo or compost then i don't think you'll notice any difference at all thats why ppl like millet for spawning, the seeds are so small giving ample inoculation points.


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