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You sure you cant do wbs without a PC?
    #4702138 - 09/23/05 09:10 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The reason Im asking is, I did a fractural sterilization with some wbs jars, after EVERYONE told me not to waste my time, cuz I would get contams for sure. Well, sure enough, I got this strandy, white growth all over my jars about 2 weeks later. This contam even has a wierd, mushroom smell to it. Wish I wouldnt have wasted my time.Heres a pic of my "Contam", hahahaaaaaaaaa.....


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4702168 - 09/23/05 09:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

there's actually a method out there to sterlize without a PC. You also have to realize that its not IMPOSSIBLE to colonize grains without PC'ing them, its just highly unlikely. Consider yourself lucky, and even if you look at it you said you did a "fractural sterlization" (even though i have no idea what that means), so you did put in some effort to clean up any nasties waiting to fuck you over.

I really wish i could give you a link on the grains without a PC, ive read it on here, i just cant remember who wrote it.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: coda]
    #4702202 - 09/23/05 09:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I soaked for 24 hours. Then I gave them a five minute rinse in a strainer.Added a liberal ammount of verm, Put them in jars, boiled for 20 minutes, and let cool.Waited 24 hours, boiled for 20 minutes, and let cool. Waited for 24 hours, boiled for 60 minutes, and let cool. Then I inoculated.

That, is "Fractural Sterilization".


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4702232 - 09/23/05 09:26 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

So, it took you 72 hours to sterilize a jar (pint nonetheless) of WBS. There's no real gain over a PC if it's taking 3 days to make a batch of jars, when they can be simmered, loaded and sterilized in less than 2 hours using a conventional P.C.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4702268 - 09/23/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

See, this is my point. Whenever someone, and this FREQUENTLY HAPPENS, asks if they can accomplish this without one, for lack of money...Everyone says, "It isnt worth the time, or, it isnt gonna work, or the most heard reply, Just get a freakin PC, and wait till you do.

It wasnt really hard to do, It worked with 0% contam rate, didnt require a PC, etc...Instead of bashin down a eager newbs dreams, give him some better, more supportive answers, instead of, "Just wait till you get a PC".


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4702288 - 09/23/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

0% contam rait with how many jars?


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4702289 - 09/23/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I applaud you for trying something different and having success with it. Either way though, time = money. $50 P.C. or three days for one batch of jars to sterilize, your choice.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4702299 - 09/23/05 09:50 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I only did 4 jars, cuz thats all I had left. I do have a operational PC now.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4702304 - 09/23/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

What do the other three look like ?

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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4702324 - 09/23/05 10:01 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

yeah post a pic of all three! :smile:


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: HippieChick]
    #4702330 - 09/23/05 10:02 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

2 of them look just as colonised, But I did a experiment, and shook the 4th at about 20%. As expected, it stalled, but its recouperating. Now I will only shake at innoc from now on.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4702401 - 09/23/05 10:22 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Without a PC? That's cool.

Good for you! Keep pics and a log and make your own pc'less tek for those who have more time than money.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: Bamaman]
    #4702420 - 09/23/05 10:35 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I can't see anything but the reflection :/


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: Taskenti]
    #4703841 - 09/24/05 04:24 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

this tek is worth some looking into - if ur that desperate..... but i think after a week or two of this.. i'd be clammering for a PC


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: coda]
    #4704134 - 09/24/05 06:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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there's actually a method out there to sterlize without a PC. You also have to realize that its not IMPOSSIBLE to colonize grains without PC'ing them, its just highly unlikely. Consider yourself lucky, and even if you look at it you said you did a "fractural sterlization" (even though i have no idea what that means), so you did put in some effort to clean up any nasties waiting to fuck you over.

I really wish i could give you a link on the grains without a PC, ive read it on here, i just cant remember who wrote it.




The link you are talking about IS about "fractional sterilization". The process involves boiling the grain and letting it sit, then boiling the grain and letting it sit, etc. This allows the endospores to germinate and the be killed in the subsequent boilings. I wouldn't consider it "luck".


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #4704185 - 09/24/05 07:26 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Well this is all I have to say.

IF IT FUCKING WORKS WHO CARES WHAT THE FUCK ANYBODY ELSE THINKS. DO IT, EAT SOME SHROOMS AND BE HAPPY  :tongue: :grin: :thumbup:


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: Magash]
    #4704218 - 09/24/05 08:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Well this is all I have to say.

IF IT FUCKING WORKS WHO CARES WHAT THE FUCK ANYBODY ELSE THINKS. DO IT, EAT SOME SHROOMS AND BE HAPPY  :tongue: :grin: :thumbup:




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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FooMan]
    #4704798 - 09/24/05 01:35 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Haha. Even the great magash stopped by.


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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #6674412 - 03/15/07 10:30 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Cool I'm going to try FungusMans idea because I don't have a PC.
But now thats the next thing I buy.
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Re: You sure you cant do wbs without a PC? [Re: FungusMan]
    #6674463 - 03/15/07 10:41 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

More power to you man. I bet you're going to love that pressure cooker though.


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