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OfflineRasB
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Muscaria
    #4699627 - 09/23/05 10:36 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone know about the shelf life of dried, ground muscaria?  Does it's potency diminish with time?  Or will it stay fresh in a sealed glass container?
Don't want what I have to go to waste....ya know??  :wink:
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Re: Muscaria [Re: RasB]
    #4699763 - 09/23/05 11:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I believe that amanitas stay potent for a long time.

If you look at the history of trading for amanitas done in Siberia and Finland, they were traded over vast distances. Now let's say it took a couple months for the mushroom to reach the shaman and he's about to trade a reindeer for it.

Well he's not really going to do this unless he knows from experience that he's getting some good shit. This is back when glass jars didn't exist.

Also important is that muscimol seems to be unaffected by high temperatures (unlike psilocin and psilocybin). This suggests to me (with my limited knowledge of chemistry) that the compound is fairly stable.

I think probably in a sealed jar they would last a hella long time. Put that jar in the freezer and they will probably last years and years.

Sorry to ramble on like that, hope this helps.


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Re: Muscaria [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4701345 - 09/23/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, usually a substance which is resistant to heat is one that is stable for the most part. Also being unchanged by heat could suggest low level of reactivity, but that would only apply in the presence of potential reagents.

In fact, from what's on erowid it would seem that exposure to heat breaks down a less desireable part of the mushroom into the more stable and desireable psychoactive chemical. Usually this seems to be done while also drying the mushroom at a relatively low temperature in the oven (burning them, after all, would still probably ruin it!).


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Re: Muscaria [Re: Konnrade]
    #4701448 - 09/23/05 06:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Fly Agaric was strung up on strings above a firepit , and just left there untill they were consumed ... So long as they dont mold, I would not worry -Tranceharper


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Re: Muscaria [Re: Tranceharper]
    #4709152 - 09/25/05 11:55 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Good info.
The replies are much appreciated.
RasB


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