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Mar's Tek
    #4695864 - 09/22/05 05:39 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Im about to make some DMT (finally) and I found something in Mar's tek that got me worried. It tells me to add the vinegar/water solution. So I add it, without telling me anything I added it all as suspected and it covered the powder and fiber finely. Then after reading on again (i've read this 50 times and this I just stumpled upon) it says release most of the water/vinegar solution after putting it on high for 2 hours. Ok I get that but then it says "add the remaining vinegar/water solution again boil for 2 hours" wtf?? The remaining solution? Do I have to go and mix the same amount again or did I mess up? WTF please! Help! Need howsoon cuz I've alrdy started.


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4695918 - 09/22/05 05:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Im using only 56g and using Mar's Tek calculator. Perhaps he meant (because he is using so much more than me) to add as much as u could then pour some liquid and then pour the remaining solution that you oculdnt because it was so much. If this is true and im using 56g how long do I boil and how would I go about doing that using Mar's Tek?


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4695938 - 09/22/05 05:55 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

You need to get ph papers or a ph meter and slowly add the vinegar or hydrocloric acid untill you reach a ph of 3.5-4 in your solution. I wouldn't trust eyeballing it or following a receipe. That would be shoddy at best. When trying extract DMT you wan't to know precisely what your doing and why for best results.


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #4695951 - 09/22/05 05:59 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

This doesnt really answer the question. Though I thank your consideration but im in dire need of th information I asked for. I also heard people that use Mar's Tek and calculator always get a fine yield. It's very precise (the tek and calcualtor) Im sure it will work and if it doesnt oh well i tried using litmus papers and it always read 2-3 so Im sure im good. I need to know though what I asked PLEASE!

Q. Since im using 70ml vinegar and 400mlof water with 56g bark. SHould I boil for 4 hours? Or after 2 hours pour off most liquid then add again 70ml vinegar and 400ml water? Or is it just because Mar's is using a pound that he wrote that? SO should I just boil for 2 hours then pour off all liquid or what! Please help me.

Q. Also would it be ideal to use a coffe filter to pour the solution in or a fine strainer?


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On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4696142 - 09/22/05 06:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I'll make the question easier.

Q. Could I boil 56g of bark (grounded) for only 2 hours instead of 4 hours because of the difference in Mar's Tek or is it essential to heat for full 4 hours?


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4696233 - 09/22/05 06:56 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I only let my iguanas rootbark sit in simmering acidic solution thats just enough to cover it for 45 minutes. Pour it through a filter. Then put the same rootbark in the jar and add more new acidic solution just enough to cover for another forty five. Do the filter then repeat once more. Then combine all three acidic solutions that where retrieved. Hope that helps. I never heard of boiling it for four hours. Sorry.


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4696502 - 09/22/05 07:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

That tek can be done fine without Ph papers if you follow the directions IME. You weren't suppose to add all of the vinegar. After the heating process is done you were supposed to add the remaining vinegar to the remaining matter in the pot and heat it again to make sure you get anything that may be left behind. You can try to add just enough vinegar to cover what is left behind and heat again if you want or not. If you do you may want to use Ph papers to make sure it isn't to high. Or you can just continue on without doing.


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: motaman]
    #4696742 - 09/22/05 08:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

well I did the 45min process. I did this by adding same amount of water and vinegar as Idid the first time twomore times and heat for 45min then poured off into a pint mason jar. Im barley getting done with third and the liquid is more clear whichmakes me think the chemical is fully extracted. Im sure im fine but would love to be reinsured about this. Im also going to still use same amounts of naptha and ammonia and lye as I would if I didnt do three extractions. I'm also going to use a glass baster to get the liquid off the vegetable sludge instead of pouring it off carefully. I think doing this will be easier and less frusteration. I also would like to know what the vegetable sludge looks like. It's showable directely after straining off into mason jar correct? Its that brownish sludge like material at the bottom correct? ALright thanks in advance all sorry if these are annoying questions but none are stupid, I just need ur help.


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4696783 - 09/22/05 08:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yes.. that is the sludge.. you need to let it settle. you should be okay..  :smirk:


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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: motaman]
    #4696898 - 09/22/05 09:04 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Iput the Ph paper in the mason jar to test the Ph cuz I was worried I did to much acid, which in fact I used as much acid as I needed I was so surprised. It had read Ph of 4 it was pretty close to 3 but the top squares of the 4 square testing litmus paper made it obvious that it was closer to Ph 4, I also heard Ph 4 is the best setting. Im absolutely happy being that the start of this process was bumpy. The sludge is settling and its in room temp. the mason jar is in a bowl that blocks out most light. Now that the BS is over (cooking has never been my liking) im about to have fun with the other extraction.


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forget w/e was here b4 it was meth gibberish.... :meff: :rail2: :rail: ....thats as old as my account...

On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




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Re: Mar's Tek [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #4697061 - 09/22/05 09:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I took a picture of the jar just now for record. I dont wanna waste my time cropping and lowering the size of the damned picture tofit it here. If someone will do it for me i'd be happy to send the picture to you.


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On that note fart in public and grin. :publicfart:

Hail Shroomery!




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