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 Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr?  [Re: Silversoul]
#4691275 - 09/21/05 05:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say his posts get nitpicked.
How many times has he been banned in his time here? Isn't this only the second time? That doesn't sound like a very well-organized lynch mob 
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691282 - 09/21/05 05:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Links to abusive posts I reported to the mods. None were deleted, though they added nothing to the thread and were clear flames.
This was on Swami's thread, and many of the posts were "addressed" to him.
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how the fuck am i gonna post a link to a tv guide article u moron??
i only brought them up to illustratee a point mutherfucker.
a point that sees to elude u for some time now.
a point that has nothing to do with the fucking moon landing.
read some fucking books and lern how to distinguish between the point, the argument and the illustration of the argument!
everyone in this topic but you has moved on, were talking about pyramids now, and the topic never was the damn moonlanding.
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No you get over yourself mutherfuckers, im not here to cater to your god damn ego!
WTF is next?? your gonna chastise me for not naming the correct smurf??
how is it i gotta tiptoe trough the tulips for u assholes?
just who the hell do u think you are anyways?
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i dont give a shit how u think it rates asshole, ure dissing material u never read!
the TV guide only mentioned it as a statistic and it was commen knowledge already.
and your a fucking retard if u believe all of those photo's.
a 4yo can tell u whats wrong with them.
it makes sense that they would have anyways, cause there is just no way u can maintain the pretence of those photos being real,
a 4yo can tell you whats wrong with them and you have obviously never looked.
why are u so fucking hellbent on a discussion about the fucking moon anyways!!!!
how many times do i have to state my intended mutherfucking point before u get it trough yout thik fucking head that im not hear for a god damn moon discussion???!!!
its obvious u never looked at the evidence so fuckoff.
start a new topic or something and stop trying to push the thread offtopic so u have an excuse to talk down to people.
your a pathetic wretch for getting your rocks off this way, and u
still cant proove we went to the moon.
stop trying to blow up a miner detail of the conversation to
feed that insatiable ego of yours, we were talking about proof, u have none. so dont try to 'win' the discussion by confusing the subject asshole!
who the fuck made this a competition anyways?
oh and if u keep up with this 'nasa would never lie to us' attitude i would ask you to wear aluminum foil so we all know who u are!
Edited by Veritas (09/21/05 05:31 PM)
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: Veritas]
#4691285 - 09/21/05 05:19 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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None of those links work...
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: trendal]
#4691290 - 09/21/05 05:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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 They work for me.
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And Ice says, "I will not agree or disagree but surrender to the wonder that is as it is." Hahahahaha Now you are taking up arms in resistance and disagreement against the mods decisions. How wonderful is the wonder that is you have surrendered to?
At least you're consistant. You still don't have a clue what my thread was about. 
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: Veritas]
#4691305 - 09/21/05 05:24 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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post the text
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: trendal]
#4691307 - 09/21/05 05:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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They don't work for me either.
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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: trendal]
#4691315 - 09/21/05 05:28 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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The links worked for me. I read the pages from the ONE thread. Vertigo should have been banned and reprimanded for that.
BUT! i do not see any singling out of insults towards swami. Vertigo flamed diploid, swami, and everyone else against him in that thread.
If this is your evidence that swami is personally being unfairly treated, then diploid and icelander have the same problem of MOD persecution.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691343 - 09/21/05 05:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe I need to clarify stance here. I'm not just about defending Swami. (by the way this is in no way the only time I have seen the Mods ingnoring flaming towards Swami)
I think the Mods here are very inconsistant about moderation in general. I have tried to wake them up ofen enough through PM.
Swami deserves what he gets here. I will say again when we asked about Vertigo they never even removed his posts. It's a best a sloppy job.
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691344 - 09/21/05 05:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was just using the most recent example of inequitable treatment of rule-breaking. This is not about how Swami was flamed in his thread, though he was, but about the fact that another poster was slapped on the wrist (in private) and his posts were left unedited.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691351 - 09/21/05 05:35 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Didn't Shroomism (a mod) call Swami an 'asshole' not long ago? I may be wrong as I didn't read that thread, but I remember Shroomism apologizing for it somewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
Edited by Diploid (09/21/05 05:48 PM)
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 Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: Diploid]
#4691382 - 09/21/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: Veritas]
#4691388 - 09/21/05 05:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, now we are getting somewhere in this semi-grand jury!
I think we can all agree that the Mods are doing their jobs half-assed. Some people get away with flagrant flaming, while others get deleted because it inadvertantly hurt someones feelings.
Now, do you think that this comes about due to bias? Do you think that any of the Mods are friends or "in" with Vertigo? i doubt it.
I still dont think swami is being persecuted, but more like a general laziness or ineptitude on the MODs part.
Is swami the only one who gets banned, yet doesnt have his counterpart reprimanded when applicable? No
What if i found a thread where the MODs did come to swami's aid? would you still be able to claim that Swami is being unjustly treated?
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691394 - 09/21/05 05:42 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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In this instance, yes.
I don't know whether he is ALWAYS treated unfairly, but this particular situation reeks of bias.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691397 - 09/21/05 05:43 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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The mods here are just arrogant kids on a power trip for the most part (Ripple and Chinacat exluded; Chinacat's never gone on a power trip, due to his intense LSD experiences I might bet, and Ripple's not a kid  ). I wouldn't expect any better from them.
But in the end, it's just a website. I wouldn't take it too seriously, as they're allowed to do whatever they want to, no matter how bullying or illogical it may be.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: Ravus]
#4691439 - 09/21/05 05:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, this particular situation, where we examine the two instances:
1) Swami, as well as many others, in a certain thread, were flamed by a member, and, even after MODs were notified, no action was taken.
2) Swami broke an S&P rule about disturbing and messing up threads, and was edited and banned.
Now, I cant see any evidence that the MODs are leaving swami hanging when it comes to him personally being attacked. It seems to be a general failure on the MOds part to take action.
However, it does seem that swami is being very closely watched by the MODs. Have the Mods ever punished swami, where not applicable? i dont think so.
So, what i really think is going on here, is that swami has become the squeeky wheel, and he is getting the oil. Is it biased and unfair?
Within any organization where there is a strata of power, politics of some sort exist. What we have here, is someone who has flagrantly pissed the MODs off, and continued to do so with a big SEG on his face, which probably only infuriated the MODs more.
So, I really dont think swami is getting anything beyond what he has brought upon himself.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691472 - 09/21/05 06:02 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just think, when he comes back he might make a thread about a book he wrote about banana bread...!?
 +  = 
(Curious, how long was he banned for this time...?)
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691488 - 09/21/05 06:06 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unjust Mods? or digital martyr?
Unless "martyr" has a negative meaning on the Spirituality forum, can there please be an option that isnt negative towards the moderators?
Swami hasnt just gotten away with murder: he was permanently banned and then his membership was handed back to him on a silver platter despite the fact he was caught redhanded having created a puppet to troll and stir up the unrest. How did he come back? with a public list of *demands* no less.
If anything is unfair, it's the unheard of preferential treatment Swami has gotten as contrasted by the rules and the usual goings on.
So if there is a call for "justice" it has got to be a call to permanently ban him because he is months past his expiration date but an exception was made for him, despite the fact that he is associated with a lynching mob rallying against the management whenever their idol seems remotely wronged.
How are we the badguy in this?
EDIT: there, his 12 hour ban expired as we speak. Was that so hard?
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: SneezingPenis]
#4691496 - 09/21/05 06:08 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also... if you are going to single yourself out, and go against whatever inherent authority, you have to start to fly straight, and adhere to the rules.
Just like many of the vocal members of NORML and any other "freedom fighter" type people have to adhere 100% to the law. They know that they are being watched closer than the average person, so they have to fly straight, if not only to help their cause, to keep themselves constantly available to further their cause.
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Re: Unjust Mods? or digital martyr? [Re: Asante]
#4691508 - 09/21/05 06:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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This all happened before my time but from what I understand the Mods couldn't make there ban stick. Why? If it was just then it would have stuck.
If it was just and the Mods backed down anyway, well that's just as lame. So what gives?
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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