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Offlinehobbitxkillyou
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salvia leaves
    #4690763 - 09/21/05 03:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

So, I got some salvia leaves last night, a few of you may have seen my topic aboutt it. I just smoked some and nothing as profound as what I hear happend. It was about 15-20 minutes ago. I feel a little, maybe heavyness, and everything is somewhat wobbly, but thats it. I wanted an out of body experience.

And so you know, I took 3 hits, waited about 5 minutes, felt barely anything, and took three more. I held in each hit for about 15-20 seconds.

So....whats up?


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4690783 - 09/21/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

leaves are weak keep tolking till you start chocking. but seriuosly it takes a lot more with plain leaves so keep holding in the smoking longer if u can it builds up. its not really out of body but u wills ee


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4690784 - 09/21/05 03:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I hear you are supposed to smoke them in a short stem pipe with a large bowl, or a waterbong or best a gravity bong for best results. Can't tell ya from personal experience because I havent had the pleaseure of enjoying salvia yet.


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Taskenti]
    #4690793 - 09/21/05 03:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

bongs are good try using a butane lighter works good it gets the leaf much hotter


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Re: salvia leaves *DELETED* [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4690819 - 09/21/05 03:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Lakefingers]
    #4690829 - 09/21/05 03:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

wo wo wo u can make salvia t? is it like making a quid as far as effects go? please explain


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Lakefingers]
    #4690834 - 09/21/05 03:41 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

i will ask the guy about this


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4690839 - 09/21/05 03:42 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

well u did say u felt heavyness or some effect?


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4690842 - 09/21/05 03:43 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

o yeah some people are more tollerent to it than others its common.


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4690843 - 09/21/05 03:43 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

yea like it feels like i'm being pulled down....but nowhere near as strong of a feeling as i hear you get.


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4690848 - 09/21/05 03:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

yeah thats the starter effects. keep smoking. do it every night and shell kick you ass


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4690851 - 09/21/05 03:45 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

how much should i smoke in one session? like, hitwise


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: hobbitxkillyou]
    #4690857 - 09/21/05 03:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

well how many leaves do u have normally u just go till your gone. youll understand when it happens


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Lakefingers]
    #4690860 - 09/21/05 03:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

When I did it I got some ready for numerous bowls. You HAVE to keep the flame on the bowl the whole time, take as big a hit as you can and hold it as long as you can. After the hit reload you bowl, let it out and take another hit without taking a breath in between if you can.

Salvia metabolizes very quickly and you have to get as much in you for as long as you can to biked up enough to have any effects.


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: VirgilKane]
    #4690870 - 09/21/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

i thought it went slow thats why u got to hold it in. it takes longer for the chemicals to take effect in your body


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4690921 - 09/21/05 04:07 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

the leaves are weak. get an extract. i had leaves and some 5x from iamshaman. the leaves just give a spinning feeling, and i did also become my wall and bed. but the 5x was beyond intencse. personally i dont like it. but you'll notice a big difference if you get an extract. most people get 10x or higher. for me im glad i only got 5x.

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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4690939 - 09/21/05 04:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

well u can reach any level with leaves u just got to smoke much more. 1 gram 10x has 10 times the hallucinating content than in 1 gram of normal leaf.


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Lakefingers]
    #4690979 - 09/21/05 04:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Or make tea...let the leaves sit in the cup for a long time--this will taste terrible though.




I thought this does not work???


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: deficitism]
    #4690990 - 09/21/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

no i jsut looked it up on googel sent me back to the shroomery look for it in search aperently its like making a quid but with more leaves can be much stronger


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4691048 - 09/21/05 04:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I thought salvia was NOT water soluble?


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: deficitism]
    #4691062 - 09/21/05 04:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

well when u extract using acetone u let the leaves sit in water for 7 minutes and the diretions say some of the potency is lost.


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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4691131 - 09/21/05 04:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Just get the 10x extract honest to god. ive had it loads before and its never done squat for me but i got some 10x on a whim yesterday and (stupidly) decided to man a bong of it before my mate came over...bad mistake, more intense than any acid trip or anything ive ever experienced. The worst part was that my memory of actually smoking it was erased while i was away so I was under the impression that this kinda of thing normally happened to reality....just no one had bothered to tell me about it....

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Re: salvia leaves [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4691906 - 09/21/05 07:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

"Q. Is there any special trick to smoking Salvia divinorum?
A. Please read "How to achieve effects from smoked Salvia divinorum". It is best to smoke the leaf material in a pipe (not a cigarette). Salvinorin A has a relatively high vaporization temperature, and with a pipe you can draw a flame directly onto the leaf material so that it burns quite hot. It is very important to hold the smoke deeply in the lungs for a good 20 - 30 seconds before exhaling. This allows time for salvinorin A to be absorbed from the smoke. If one exhales to quickly, much of the material will be wasted. The level of effects you achieve depends on the amount of smoke inhaled and absorbed within about a 2 minute period. Within 2 minutes, you should be able to take 3 big hits (holding each one in for 20 - 30 seconds). The body metabolizes salvinorin A quite rapidly, so if you want to increase the effect by smoking several hits, you need to ingest the smoke faster than it is metabolized. If you pause too long between hits, the duration will be extended, but the intensity of effects won't increase."


From: http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html

to everyone else, he already has the leaf and wants to know if it will work...it will.

Edited by schapper (09/21/05 07:28 PM)

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    #4694007 - 09/22/05 05:45 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: salvia leaves [Re: Lakefingers]
    #4695026 - 09/22/05 12:14 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

DONT INGEST THE LEAVES! i tried the quid, and in 5 minutes i puked. absolutely horrible, and ive taken syrian rue, mimosa, cacti etc...

Just because the ancients used it a certain way doesnt necessarily mean it was the best way. smoking seems the only way to go.

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