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 A dream experiment -- UPDATE 10-05-05! RESULTS ARE IN! 
#4688771 - 09/21/05 12:16 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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NOTE TO EVERYONE, PARTICIPANT OR NOT - PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY BOOK TITLES IN THIS THREAD, TO AVOID CONTAMINATION OF THE RESULTS OF THIS EXPERIMENT!!!
After talking to a friend of mine, I'd like to see how this works out with as many of you who'd like to try it! I know a lot of people in S&P are into dreams in a big way (and are apparenty good at remembering them!) so this should be right up our alley in here!
I'd like you to try and find a book, in one of your dreams. Not a specific book, don't go in thinking "I want to find Brave New World", you just want to find a book. Any book.
Now the key part is, try to remember the title of the book. That's the key part to the experiment. If you feel you are able to, you can also try to remember the physical characteristics of the book - size, age, color, binding, ect.
After you have your book's title (and maybe it's characteristics) I'd prefer it if you PM the results to me instead of posting them right off here in the thread! This is hopefully to avoid any cross-contamination with some people reading what other people found and then finding that themselves.
The experiment will run for a MAX of 2-weeks, at which point I will post the results in this thread.
If you are going to participate, please respond in this thread so I know how many to expect. If I get all the responses early, I may end the experiment after just 1-week, but we'll see how quick everyone is at finding their book 
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
Edited by trendal (10/05/05 09:01 PM)
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 Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4688800 - 09/21/05 12:23 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll try but I'm not very good with the conjuring up a lucid state (I'm assuming you'd have to be in that state to remember to choose a book), it just happens spontaneously.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: MJF]
#4688820 - 09/21/05 12:29 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I had to wait for it to happen spontaneously, too. Took me a couple months, I think, as I'm not a very active dreamer so much as a reactive dreamer 
And actually in my case it was casually noticing and reading a book title in a dream that SPARKED the lucid state! I saw the the title and the whole dream just stopped - I knew I was supposed to remember what I could about it. It was a very profound moment in the dream.
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: MJF]
#4688821 - 09/21/05 12:29 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can try.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4688830 - 09/21/05 12:32 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Respect the original idea of the thread. If you can't do it don't post them ...
MAIA
Edited by MAIA (09/21/05 05:39 AM)
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Swami]
#4688885 - 09/21/05 12:43 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm reading that right now.
don Juan suggests looking at your hands to help go lucid.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Swami]
#4688933 - 09/21/05 12:54 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aw come on, man 
The idea was to not contaminate the experiment with any book titles. I specifically asked anyone who participated to PM me their results so as to not contaminate anyone else's dreams.
Now if anyone does report that book, I have have to throw out their results. Thanks man. That's really cool of you.
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689000 - 09/21/05 01:18 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Respect the original idea of the thread. If you can't do it don't post them ...
MAIA
Edited by MAIA (09/21/05 05:40 AM)
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Swami]
#4689008 - 09/21/05 01:20 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, there are only hundreds of thousands, if not millions more titles to choose from.
How much of my first post did you read? I specifically said the idea was NOT to choose a book. The idea is to let it come naturally, which it can't do with you contaminating the thread 
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Swami]
#4689011 - 09/21/05 01:21 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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It it too much to ask you to edit-out the book titles you have posted?
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689034 - 09/21/05 01:27 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Respect the original idea of the thread. If you can't do it don't post them ...
MAIA
Edited by MAIA (09/21/05 05:41 AM)
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Swami]
#4689041 - 09/21/05 01:32 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have designed this experiment the way I want to run it. I have a reason for that.
Why are you messing things up? What is your problem?
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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 Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689047 - 09/21/05 01:34 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll try, but my lucid dreaming techniques are rusty at best these days.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689054 - 09/21/05 01:36 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I will do it.
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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. ~ Albert Einstein
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689516 - 09/21/05 08:45 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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does it have to be done after the time of this post? if i had , in my hundreds of pages of recorded dreams, an experience of reading a book and knowing the title, should i pm you that? or does it have to be done after the time of this post?
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689574 - 09/21/05 09:23 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll give it a try! I'd just be interested to see if my subconscious responds at all.
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Gliders]
#4689582 - 09/21/05 09:28 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I will PM you if I dream of any books in the next two weeks.
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 Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689587 - 09/21/05 09:32 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll do it.
Sad, sad Swami...   
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: trendal]
#4689594 - 09/21/05 09:35 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm game. 
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Re: A dream experiment, need participants! [Re: Diploid]
#4689609 - 09/21/05 09:40 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll definitely try it!
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Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense...
"Religion is a defense against a religious experience"
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"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
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