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 Re: the beginning is also the end  [Re: Timeleech]
#475662 - 12/01/01 02:25 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ahhh, I see now. 
>Try to put yourself in this position, (without re-interpretation, accept it at face value for an experiment):
The god that awaits you after death turns out to be a mulit-dimensional predator dragging the whole of humanity towards it by tentacles that reach throughout the whole of history. Human reality is a self-enclosed fractal created by this being as a means of keeping us where we are.
What do you do?
You have inspired in me new passion. I hope this creature lies in wait for me. I intend to gather my powers and rise up with an intergalactic company of superwarriors of all races spanning all time and space. The Titans will clash, Timeleech... The Titans will clash.
>I agree, but I believe it to be true on a greater scale. The next step isn't merging with god. That lies much farther ahead. There are infinite levels to progress to before you reach that goal at the end of time. And then, only then, will you return to your true source, merge with the infinite knowledge. Then the purpose of the universe will be fulfilled.
The only thing that that remains then is for death to put up the chairs and turn off the lights before he leaves
This is one of the coolest things I have ever considered. Though I don't know if it's true, I hope it is. 
I will delve into this possibility, though this is a dangerous practice. (Exploring a possibly imaginary scenario, instead of learning from nothing...)
Come on Timeleech ya wuss, get to work! We're gonna spank this bitch, or die in the process. (Only to be reborn in another existance perhaps, to gain more experiences before a second (or whatever number we're actually on) rally?)
This is the absolute coolest thing I have ever considered... Thank you Timeleech for showing it to me, I am forver in your debt. 
My God... the possibilities...
Oh, and don't worry about gettin' too weird Timeleech, I find enlightenment in digging up bodies. (though I haven't tried yet, this must be a very powerful experience!) 
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 Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: the universe]
#475668 - 12/01/01 02:28 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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The universe:
Ok, I'm back to saying "fuck-you-whoever-you-are-greater-entity" and going my own way then.
By the way, you have a lot to answer for mister universe. Just you wait untill I get my hands on you! 
And quit calling me asshole, asshole! 
It kind of makes sense though, if the universe thinks I am an asshole it explains a lot!
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475686 - 12/01/01 02:40 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ok, this thread has now officially joined all the other shroomery threads and ended in a gigantic nonsensical post-fest (which is what makes this place what it is)
Let me tell you this though: Had you had the same ecperience on salvia as me, I tell you, even an intergalactic company of superwarriors of all races spanning time and space wouldn't be enough.
>Come on Timeleech ya wuss, get to work! We're gonna spank this bitch, or die in the process.
Righty-HO!
>Thank you Timeleech for showing it to me, I am forver in your debt.
I will remember this when the time of my escape has come adn I require someone to distract the beast
Damn you, are you pulling my leg or what? Oh well, It's hard to explain this thing without making it sound like a comic-book...
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475693 - 12/01/01 02:50 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Here's a 2-dimensional rendering of what we are up against by the way:
http://www.theophagy.org/phpgraphy/?display=Photo-Realistic%2Fskin_deep.jpg
Do think you are ready for that?
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 Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Timeleech]
#475697 - 12/01/01 02:54 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Dude! I'm not pulling your leg at all! I've heard some cool theories, but this has got to be the absolute coolest! (or a serious contender.) The best part is that it actually jives with my (current) belief! The fact that you expanded my belief to something that I could not see I am seriously grateful for. (It doesn't end where I currently thought it did, but lapses into the infinite... more or less.)
Of course this could all be just a crazy comic book story (or novel which I intend to write one day, mwah hah hah...) it's not all that much crazier than anything else. (In a world where most people believe in some weird things involving men materializing from "holy spirits" and so on, this theory isn't all that crazy.)
I think that there very well could be a "beast" waiting for us somewhere, and that he might be wrapped up in a galaxy that exists somewhere else... or whatever. (you know, the infinite folds or whatever...).
Swee-eeet! (I hope you don't think I'm crazy for believing all this since you were just messing around... Well, if so, you've created something imo not unlike the unintentional creation of LSD, of course someone else probably thought of all this before... it's pretty hard to have an original thought these days.)
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 Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Timeleech]
#475699 - 12/01/01 02:57 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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>Here's a 2-dimensional rendering of what we are up against by the way:
Do think you are ready for that?
Not yet, but I intend to be.
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475711 - 12/01/01 03:13 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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And this is when I shatter your illusions (kinda): I *DO* believe this stuff, but it came out kind of cheesy towards the end...
The second thing is: This isn't my idea at all. I mentioned Castaneda at one point, that's where I got most of it from. Iv'e thought about creatures feeding off of our emotional energy, but this one ?ber-entity at the end of history seems just as likely. (In fact, both things are true, in my world)
>or novel which I intend to write one day, mwah hah hah...
I was going to say "If you can beat me to it!" but I blew that one by telling you that those books have already been written man! But we could make the movie, and comics, and action-figures, and!
>I think that there very well could be a "beast" waiting for us somewhere,
Right here, everywhere. This is the omni-present "god" after all.
>...and that he might be wrapped up in a galaxy that exists somewhere else... or whatever. (you know, the infinite folds or whatever...).
Not a galaxy somewhere else, it's bigger than that. The whole universe. In fact, our whole human reality seems to be a fractal prison devised by this thing. That's why it's so hard to see outside of it.
>I hope you don't think I'm crazy for believing all this since you were just messing around.
I am afraid of being though of crazy myself, becaus i'm NOT just messing around. (well, I might be messing around, but not intentionally. most people would probably think I'm in a mess if I told them this stuff)
>Well, if so, you've created something imo not unlike the unintentional creation of LSD,
hmmm, are you going to be my LSD, my problem child? Will you go out and do something unspeakable to the minds of millions of people?
>of course someone else probably thought of all this before... it's pretty hard to have an original thought these days.)
Read some books by Carlos Castaneda if you haven't so already. That's what made the sparks fly for me. Also McKenna has been instrumental to reinforcing the belief that the truth is indeed this alien.
But hey, don't go around your town and start yelling around about this, it will most likely get you into trouble man (and a white shirt too). Know what I mean?
I wonder what all the other shroomerites are thinking about this....
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Timeleech]
#475737 - 12/01/01 03:38 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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>But hey, don't go around your town and start yelling around about this, it will most likely get you into trouble man (and a white shirt too). Know what I mean?
Ya, I'll be careful. They already filled me up with drugs on a couple of occasions, and I was pretty close to hospitalization once. This is of course due to the paranoia of people at the thought that I might not "do the family proud" in the "real world". heh heh
I'll have to read up on this chap. This might be tough as I'm barely able to get everything done that I already want and need to do. (It's either cut the shroomery and a few related items, or invest in a lot of methamphetamine)
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475744 - 12/01/01 03:45 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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I just wanted to say I thouroughly enjoy these late night insanity sessions. They are enjoyable are they not?
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: ]
#475759 - 12/01/01 04:07 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Hold up. I just lost all hope for a second. If we are allready in a fractal informational prison created by this insane being, so as that we are it's food eternally-then there is no hope of escape. If I follow my instincts towards creating a god stronger than this fiend with my fellow man then I'm just falling into it's trap. If I then decide to go against my instincts and try to let my soul escape through heroin addiction or whatever........I'm still falling into it's trap because that's what it expected me to do. Goddamn, I don't like that theory one bit...I don't believe it :)
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: the universe]
#475765 - 12/01/01 04:21 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Shroomism: I agree. zoot zoot...
universe: Good luck getting out of that fractal prison deely. heh heh
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: ]
#475885 - 12/01/01 08:48 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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NO, it's not insane, it is not insane. not insane. insane. no. late. sleep. insane, inzzzzaneeeeeehhh, zzzzzzzaneeeehhh, zznnneh, zzzne, zzzzn, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
But it's an interesting theory, isn't it? And even if the thing about us being devoured by some great trancendental being at the end of time is not true, I still hold the fractal "prison" for quite possible.
But I think this thread is dead now. I enjoyed it, thank you, may you rest in peace. And I'm terribly sorry amoeba, for kidnapping your thread and taking it places you didn't intend
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Timeleech]
#475897 - 12/01/01 09:10 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Good sweet lord... It's now 9:07 am and I cannot sleep... I thought some more delusional rambling might help.
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475907 - 12/01/01 09:37 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Sure, what do you want to hear? hehe, Iv'e exhausted my well of "insane" ideas for today. If your'e bored you can vote in the poll I just created. There's a pretty delusional option there, but be sure you fulfill the prerequisite for choosing it!
I will do some salvia tomorrow again I think, the I'll have plenty of material to work with
Last time she told me I will live to be 37 years, which worries me a bit, because in 2012 I will be 32. Where do I get those extra 5 years from? nothing but puzzles!
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#475910 - 12/01/01 09:44 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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heh heh heh... I should be consulting my spirt teacher as well...
We should swap notes tomorrow.
I'll be puttin my sanity to the limit my friend. To the limit.
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475921 - 12/01/01 10:05 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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haha, I advice you to listen to some mckenna mp3's from over at http://www.elftrance.com, pick some where he speaks with music in the background. It was one of those that took me to see the true face of the eschaton (the thing iv'e been rambling about all night you know).
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Timeleech]
#475927 - 12/01/01 10:13 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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how do you pick other tracks? I can only get one by clicking on the mushroom... I've listened to it before, it's from the interview with Art Bell I believe.
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475932 - 12/01/01 10:18 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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The elf is the key. It opens up a miltidimensional door into a universe full of hours and hours on end with Terence McKenna may his soul be blessed.
Just click the elf in the lower left corner, above the green yin-yang. there's a huuuge archive of mp3's for you to enjoy. eh, enjoy!
(iv downloaded 'em all while I still had only isdn, that's how fanatic I am, 700MB...)
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Timeleech]
#475939 - 12/01/01 10:24 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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thanks man... for now I'm off to try and hit that wickedest of all highs... REM. I don't know if I'll make it though, as I'm now coming up on my 22nd or 23rd hour of consciousness... I just cannot sleep tonight and I have no idea why. I never have trouble sleeping. (Well, not to this degree anyhow.)
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Re: the beginning is also the end [Re: Ulysees]
#475942 - 12/01/01 10:29 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Good night and good luck then. REM sleep usually doesn't occur untill you have reached a certain state of relaxation from beforehand. Those 20-odd hours of waking consciousness are probably going to cost you about 8 hours of dreamless sleep before REM can be initiated.
Maybe my posts had something to do with your insomnia
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