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OfflineGrib_iz_Pitera
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Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic)
    #4682538 - 09/19/05 03:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)



It's the best of Sunday finds. About 8 cm in height.
It was the single giant among 30 rest midgets.
What the hell, the quantity of mushrooms is extremely low!
I had meet two disappointed marginal hunters who looked pretty insane.They asked me did I found something and I answered "NO" because I read in their eyes that they ready to rip me off for a couple of shrooms.
Although I bewared of a police raid so it may be the eyes of fear see danger everywhere..

Good hunting and be safe!


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Grib_iz_Pitera]
    #4682567 - 09/19/05 03:21 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Hard to tell from that photo, but it doesn't look like a Liberty Cap to me.


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: ivi]
    #4682627 - 09/19/05 03:43 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Yup it does'nt look like a liberty cap to me


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Mr_Psilocin]
    #4682798 - 09/19/05 04:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

were u find it?


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Grib_iz_Pitera]
    #4683470 - 09/19/05 07:19 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

youve got crazy liberty caps there in russia! here in western canada we have a mycena that looks like that pic.

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Libertycapper]
    #4683488 - 09/19/05 07:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: ivi]
    #4684712 - 09/19/05 11:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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ivi said:
Hard to tell from that photo, but it doesn't look like a Liberty Cap to me.




I concur. Doesn't look like a Lib to me. Take a spore print.

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Gumby]
    #4684863 - 09/19/05 11:50 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

the one in that pic looks exactly like a panaeolina foenisecii, and im about 99.999999% sure thats what it is.

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: CptnGarden]
    #4685357 - 09/20/05 06:21 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

People, I'm scared..  :frown:
A friend of mine who hunts for years told me these are 'proper' mushrooms.. I found this one at the same field I gathered all previous mushrooms and all the shroom people around said these are P.Semilanceata. This one had held in a fridge before the photo was taken. It became more brown than was before fridge but the shape hasn't change.

Is Shroomie mentioned panaeolina foenisecii posionous?


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Grib_iz_Pitera]
    #4685382 - 09/20/05 06:46 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Not poisonous just weak compared to any other. They used to be listed on the dosage calculator... but you have to eat like 100g. dried or something. Not sure on exact numbers there... check the calculator.

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/12195

They are half as strong as Pannaleas Subbalteatus... I think they're nice eating either way. I noticed they're not on the calculator anymore so you might have to find someone with experience with them.


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: popnganja420]
    #4685395 - 09/20/05 06:54 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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popnganja420 said:
Not poisonous just weak compared to any other.




Panaeolina foenisecii is neither active or poisonous. You can eat 100 grams of them if you want, but all you'll ever get is an upset stomach if anyhing at all.


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OfflineGrib_iz_Pitera
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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Libertycapper]
    #4685844 - 09/20/05 11:18 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Libertycapper said:
youve got crazy liberty caps there in russia! here in western canada we have a mycena that looks like that pic.




I typed "mycena" in Google and got tons of pictures but no one looks like mine.

Regrettably the shroom is frozen in the fridge and I can't make a spore print. The friend I mentioned was assuring me that 20-40 of these caps enough for a good trip and these are most common active mushrooms in our area. I was inclined to trust him but I've got in doubt now..


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: ivi]
    #4685875 - 09/20/05 11:38 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

The Calculator gives 17.87 grams of fresh Psilocybe Semilanceata for trip level 3. I presume this is not more than 10-12 mushrooms.
Do you people think this is correct?

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Grib_iz_Pitera]
    #4685955 - 09/20/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

no.
these are tiny mushrooms.
and the trip calculator is really not a good reference.

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #4686028 - 09/20/05 12:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

20 to 40 is the right amount for liberty caps. no more than 40 on your first trip thats for sure.

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: stu3]
    #4686403 - 09/20/05 02:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Grib_iz_Pitera said:
People, I'm scared..  :frown:
A friend of mine who hunts for years told me these are 'proper' mushrooms.. I found this one at the same field I gathered all previous mushrooms and all the shroom people around said these are P.Semilanceata. 




Thay often grown next to P.Semilanceata being dung loving fungi as are many other Pans. Also they seem to be able to grow in large numbers in a wide range of climate conditions, unlike Libery Caps which really require the exact conditions to fruit. The consequence of this is that a field that is well know as a "mushroom" field may have no liberty at all but lots of pans, this pisses me of lots. 

When you go first start picking and go to a well know field, you find some liberty caps and think great the field is up. Then you spot some more similar shrooms growing in clupms in exactly the same manner, look the same ( to the novice ) and in the bag they go.

Your mates probably recognise them as having been picked before and tripped on "them" when really they have just tripped of the P. Semilanceta which were picked at the same time.

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Libertycapper]
    #9256814 - 11/16/08 08:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Those arnt libertys are they? what the hell are they, i have a BUNCH of em growing in my backyard

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: Grib_iz_Pitera]
    #9258137 - 11/17/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

That's not a Liberty Cap. No way, Jose. I, too, believe it to be a Panaeolina foenisecii. The others you have might be Ps. semilanceata, can't tell without a pic, but this one specimen isn't. It's very common for inexperienced shroom hunters - especially with Ps. semilanceata - to mistake other mushrooms that grow in the same pasture for the real deal, simply, because their are many that look "the same" to an untrained eye. This is especially the case for Panaeolus/Panaeolina.
I have seen many beginner hunters whose find was like 2/3 Ps. semilanceata and 1/3 Pans. Naturally, they'll still be tripping when they eat them and thus they'll remain faithful that ALL the mushrooms they are picking are active. I reckon this is the case with your "shroom buddies". I have been hunting Ps. semilanceata for 20 years now and the mushroom in the picture isn't one. The picture quality isn't good, but I can tell from the stem alone.


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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9258353 - 11/17/08 02:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

not libs at all, sorry

no striations, no hygrophanous cap, color of pileus/stipe is wrong

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Re: Sunday Liberty Caps hunting (+pic) [Re: shroomhunter420]
    #9258430 - 11/17/08 03:16 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Ah shit. That was a necro by shroomhunter420. I just saw now that the OP hasn't even been around in the past month and the thread is from September.
I don't know what the general board policy at the shroomery is, but posting in an ID request thread that's over a month old is pretty pointless.
Your question of what they are has already been answered by CptGarden.


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