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OfflineA0999
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is this legal?
    #4680742 - 09/19/05 03:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4680771 - 09/19/05 04:02 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Only if the plastic is solid, and the mushroom can't be removed.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4680800 - 09/19/05 04:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so based on your input, theoretically, i could have a pound of coke in a plastic cube keychain and it would be legal as long as i couldn't take it out of the plastic? lol :smile: sorry, i just had to.




(for novelty purpose only haha)


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4681059 - 09/19/05 09:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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anarchist0999 said:
so based on your input, theoretically, i could have a pound of coke in a plastic cube keychain and it would be legal as long as i couldn't take it out of the plastic? lol :smile: sorry, i just had to.
(for novelty purpose only haha)




No need to apologize... that's an interesting point!
It would be an very pricey, and very huge, keychain fob though :smile:
It would make for an interesting court case I would expect!
If you posess something deamed ileagal, but it cannot be used or accessed.
Does it then become a legal item?
If it was a fully automatic weapon, encased in plastic... could it be considered a concealed weapon if you had it in you pocket?
I'm sure the U.S. authorities would find some way of making the charge stick, but the court battle would prove interesting. :lol:


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Re: is this legal? [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4681070 - 09/19/05 09:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

They are a dutch site. It is still illegal since it looks dried.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4681072 - 09/19/05 09:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

possession is possession, non? Cops are bastards, most of em, and it seems like to me that's what it would come down to.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4681076 - 09/19/05 09:22 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

These have been around for a very long time. There is another version with a bud in it, haven't seen those in a while though. I've been wondering about the legality also, on the Azarius website it states "There are no restrictions for this product, we can ship it worldwide".

Weird.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4681105 - 09/19/05 09:52 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

There really is no reason that it should be considered legal just because it's in plastic. Using that theory I could encase any number of drugs in plastic and transport them to the US. It's not like the DEA would think its ok because it's just a novelty.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4681138 - 09/19/05 10:09 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

An interesting point to consider regarding legality in the USA. Is it possible to still detect the presence of psilocybin or psilocin in these plastic encased mushrooms?

Remember in the USA, the mushrooms are not controlled, only the chemicals that they contain. So if it is not possible to detect the presence of these alkaloids in the flesh of the mushroom...

How many people know friends (or have personal experience) with being arrested for possession of mushrooms only to have the charge "disappear" later. This is almost ALWAYS attributed to the crime lab not being able to get a positive test for controlled substances in the mushrooms, either because their tests are too basic, or due to improper storage the mushrooms have become inactive.

It would make for an interesting court case... I certainly wouldn't want to be the test subject.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: psilocyber]
    #4681548 - 09/19/05 01:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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It would make for an interesting court case... I certainly wouldn't want to be the test subject.




Nor would I... but that cute keychain is tempting! :cool:


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Re: is this legal? [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4686082 - 09/20/05 02:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"How many people know friends (or have personal experience) with being arrested for possession of mushrooms only to have the charge "disappear" later. This is almost ALWAYS attributed to the crime lab not being able to get a positive test for controlled substances in the mushrooms, either because their tests are too basic, or due to improper storage the mushrooms have become inactive."

funny you should mention that, ive know a few people (i dont know if id consider some of them as real freinds) that have been busted. and completely got away with it.

scenario 1) 2 freinds were smoking out in a car parked on the side of the street. next thing they know they cops have come from nowhere. they know they are busted. somehow the cops knew exactly what was going on and exactly what they were looking for. well anyway i think one freind got off and the other got busted for a QP of pot, and aroung an eighth of shrooms after they searched the vehicle. there were no charges for the shrooms even though they were confiscated, and he went to jail. the only charges were for the QP.

scenario 2) two people, one freind, the other i just knew from high school(the driver) were driving out of town basically to party somewhere. for some reason they deside that because they want to trip while they are there they take their whole fruiting chamber - cakes, perlite, and everything with them. so they had been drinking and they were on the road. i was told the driver was driving pretty crazy and that thats the reason they got pulled over. well when the cop searched the car obviously he found the fruitng chamber with cakes fruiting and all that shit. he knew what it was so they went to jail. well the driver was charged with ***400 GRAMS OF PSILOCYBIN CONTAINING MUSHROOMS*** thats right i said 400 GRAMS. they weighed everything. perlite, cakes and all. well the guy sat in jail for 2-4 months then got out when the case was dissmissed. aparently they couldnt prove anything.

crazy.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4686094 - 09/20/05 03:02 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

this might need to be moved to Politics, Activism and Law .


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4686376 - 09/20/05 04:31 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I want that key chain.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: psilocyber]
    #4686425 - 09/20/05 04:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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It would make for an interesting court case...



If it went to court... They would have to go to a lot of trouble to carefully open it up, then they would be prosecuting for possesion of trace amounts of psilocybin. I could only see it happening if some big time dealer they really wanted to bust was caught with it, even then it could be thrown out by a judge. I remember in my local paper of a small town near me there was so little crime that they had reports of people busted with 0.3 grams of hash calling it "enough for 5 cannabis cigarettes". Another time a judge threw a case out for 0.1g calling it a waste of court time. Reminds me of that Jonathan Ott book talking of trace amounts of morphine in milk, and busting farmers or nursing mothers!

In holland you can get the encased bud keyrings in lots of places, never saw the shrooms, they do have lots of other cool mushroom nick-nacks over there though.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: blackout]
    #4686624 - 09/20/05 05:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

"Reminds me of that Jonathan Ott book talking of trace amounts of morphine in milk, and busting farmers or nursing mothers!"


that just gave me a funny image of a swat team busting into the house of a mother with child on her tit.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4690087 - 09/21/05 02:12 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

theres no way to prove that it is what it looks like unless u cracked it open.. plus i'd think the heat of the process in which it'd take to make those things would destroy any active chemicals... just guessing


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4698226 - 09/23/05 01:06 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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that just gave me a funny image of a swat team busting into the house of a mother with child on her tit.



Why is that funny? Unfortunately they do it all the time....
OOOPs, forgot the point of my post!, edit
anyway, the link doesn't work for me. I take it it's a shroom keychain encased in some sort of plastic? How big is it? I kinda like to have a big ass shroom encased in plastic, like a good 18" cube or something. I'd use it to play croquet with. Anybody know how to make one yourself?


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Re: is this legal? [Re: A0999]
    #4699130 - 09/23/05 04:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I've seen these before. I think they would look a lot better if they freeze dried them, then vacuumed the resin in. Also I don't think any heat is involved in the process.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: mycofile]
    #4699184 - 09/23/05 04:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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Anybody know how to make one yourself?



I think you can buy the resin stuff, it is just pretty much clear glue, pour it into a mould and drop in a shroom.


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Re: is this legal? [Re: blackout]
    #4699194 - 09/23/05 04:48 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

maybe you can go to a hobby shop and tell them you want to encase a bug in clear shit to make a paper weight  :shrug:


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