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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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lets pre-emptive strike
    #4680666 - 09/19/05 01:33 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

my fellow americans we must act now. there is a movement in this country of ultra conservative christians to relocate themselves to South Carolina. their plan is to create a theocratic local government combining church and state. not only is this a violation of the constitution, it is a dangerous situation. september 11th has showed us the perils of religous extremeism. many governments in the arab world are perfect examples of why americans must fear theocracy. our only choice is a pre-empative strike on religous extremist in south carolina and their churches. they may not have oil, but they have some decent beach front property. haliburton could make a killing in the rebuilding effort. please voice your support to your local congressman for this needed military action.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4681053 - 09/19/05 06:57 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

link?


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4681055 - 09/19/05 06:59 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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my fellow americans we must act now. there is a movement in this country of ultra conservative christians to relocate themselves to South Carolina. their plan is to create a theocratic local government combining church and state.




Wow, that sounds pretty extreme and this is the first that I have heard of it. Do you have a link?

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4681224 - 09/19/05 09:15 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I take it you've been watching the Daily Show?

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4681238 - 09/19/05 09:25 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Let 'em have South Carolina. That place is a shithole anyway.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Silversoul]
    #4681264 - 09/19/05 09:31 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

North Carolina ain't much betta.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683045 - 09/19/05 05:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

they were on hannity + colmes too

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683071 - 09/19/05 05:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

and here is a link
http://christianexodus.org/

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683147 - 09/19/05 06:02 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly wouldn't get too worried. I don't think it's going to amount to anything.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683455 - 09/19/05 07:15 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck that, I hope they take over the whole state.

Let's see what the murder rate in the all Christan state is.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #4683502 - 09/19/05 07:25 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Utah 2.5 slightly better than average of 2.9
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=12&did=169#MRalpha


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4683511 - 09/19/05 07:28 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

liberal states of mass and vermont have lower rates than the garbage backwards state of utah :smile:

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683545 - 09/19/05 07:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

You asked a question, I gave some info. Made no agenda. I hate Jesus. He can suck my dick


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4683575 - 09/19/05 07:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

haha.... you are going to get booted right out of the republican party talkin like that :wink:

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683579 - 09/19/05 07:41 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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liberal states of mass and vermont have lower rates than the garbage backwards state of utah :smile:




It has nothing to do with being liberal and everything to do with the fact that Vermont allows all citizens to carry and conceal weapons for self-defense.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683587 - 09/19/05 07:43 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: yeah right. look at texas ... dude get a clue.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683594 - 09/19/05 07:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Preach it.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683600 - 09/19/05 07:45 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

oh and im not one for gun control...but just so you know...every year many more people die in gun related accidents than are saved by using their guns to prevent a crime against them.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683603 - 09/19/05 07:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Texas's conceal and carry laws are much stricter than Vermont's. In Vermont you don't even need a permit to carry.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683614 - 09/19/05 07:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Texas's conceal and carry laws are much stricter than Vermont's. In Vermont you don't even need a permit to carry.




Is that right???? That's fucking great. Whack job Dean's state is no restriction???? What a fucking laugher. I wonder if his nut log supporteres know that.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4683633 - 09/19/05 07:52 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Texas's conceal and carry laws are much stricter than Vermont's. In Vermont you don't even need a permit to carry.




Is that right???? That's fucking great. Whack job Dean's state is no restriction???? What a fucking laugher. I wonder if his nut log supporteres know that.




Yup, no permit needed. I wish I lived there. It's one of the few states that doesn't have fucked up gun laws.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683655 - 09/19/05 07:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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september 11th has showed us the perils of religous extremeism. many governments in the arab world are perfect examples of why americans must fear theocracy.




There is a difference between some nuts just talking shit and people suicide bombing restaurants and nightclubs.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683658 - 09/19/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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every year many more people die in gun related accidents than are saved by using their guns to prevent a crime against them.



A specious statement. How would you begin to gather statistics about those who use a gun for self defense but do not report the incidents? From my personal knowledge of such episodes, the majority have gone unreported to government agencies. I am also curious how the actions of security guards and police officers who use guns in defense are taken into account.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4683662 - 09/19/05 07:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

if you own a gun its more likely to kill you , a friend or a family member than any criminal. i support the right to own guns, its your risk to take (much how i feel about drug use). however people on the right need to stop acting like guns are the answer to everything. many countries with stricter gun laws have much less crime. it just depends.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683672 - 09/19/05 07:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

If you are careful and keep your guns in places where they can not be messed with, the chance of an accident is almost 0. Where people start to get problems is when they are dumb and don't practice safety or don't keep their guns locked up.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683705 - 09/19/05 08:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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if you own a gun its more likely to kill you , a friend or a family member than any criminal.




Due mostly to lack of education and training I suspect.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4683719 - 09/19/05 08:08 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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if you own a gun its more likely to kill you , a friend or a family member than any criminal.



The point is not to kill a criminal but to stop him (if you have to kill him, oh well). Every incident of private citizens using a gun to thwart a crime where I personally knew the private citizen has been accomplished without firing a shot. I grew up around guns, the only times one killed a family member of anyone I knew was a suicide. A friend of mine was gunned down in the line of duty by someone who did not have a legal right to posses the firearm.

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many countries with stricter gun laws have much less crime. it just depends.



There are also countries with stricter gun laws that have more crime. Besides, how many people have been killed by people acting in the employ of GOVERNMENTS vs. those acting as private citizens?


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: zappaisgod]
    #4683905 - 09/19/05 08:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Texas's conceal and carry laws are much stricter than Vermont's. In Vermont you don't even need a permit to carry.




Is that right???? That's fucking great. Whack job Dean's state is no restriction???? What a fucking laugher. I wonder if his nut log supporteres know that.



During the 2004 primary, Kerry criticized Dean for going against the party line on gun control. In interviews, Dean was strongly supportive of the right to bear arms.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Silversoul]
    #4683999 - 09/19/05 09:01 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

dean is a good man

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #4686381 - 09/20/05 02:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

lol yeah this topic was on the daily show the other night, mostly funny but it could also be a little scary, i mean lets say these wackos get their way and end up having their own religious local government(is this even possible??) is there any chance this could spread or pose any other problems? i mean hell im all for the jesus freaks going and living in their own state, as long as their out of my hair...... but i wouldnt want it to explode into anything bigger. im not really sure what my opinion is yet because last week is the first time ive heard anything about it.


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    #4686386 - 09/20/05 02:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

and dean is a good man, i would have rather voted for him than kerry.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #4686635 - 09/20/05 03:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

All they could do is lobby, vote, and be gov't officials, just like any other group of people.

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4695012 - 09/22/05 12:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

if this happens we need a fucking legal-drug hippy state to balance things out.


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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: leery11]
    #4695025 - 09/22/05 12:13 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

CA

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Re: lets pre-emptive strike [Re: Redstorm]
    #4695042 - 09/22/05 12:17 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

You beat me to it.


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