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    #4679498 - 09/18/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes it seems that social groups can actually keep an individual from being more social. Like say a certain group is unwilling (maybe unconsiously) to "admit" a new member and they shut out potential "cool" people from entering their group and there by keep from ever getting to know that person or letting themselves be known to that person.

Also sometimes there are opposing groups, so if you were to meet someone from another group finding out they are a part of a certain group might keep you from furthering the relationship.

I wondering what happens to a person that doesn't really fit into a group. I'm also wondering if it is even possible for a person to not be able to fit into any group.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679526 - 09/18/05 11:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah...I wanted to tie that into the shroomery's rating system some how....but I forgot what my thoughts were on it.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679531 - 09/18/05 11:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

You need to be selective or your social groups stock goes down. And the chicks will start hanging with with Tommy and his crew.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: looner2]
    #4679544 - 09/18/05 11:35 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Power and Sex.....are those two things responsible for how we maintain our social groups?


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679558 - 09/18/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words right now.

I'm thinking about how social groups and individuals act....and how maybe it's based on survival. So...groups serve a survival purpose. So what's up with the people who don't really fit into a certain group but kinda blow around and are somewhat involved in many groups. Being on your own could be a survival mechanism as well. Anyways....I'm wondering if the individuals who aren't really apart of a group but interact with many.....are serving some kind of purpose.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679656 - 09/19/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

A social group only becomes important (critical) when you can't meet your own needs.

If you are sufficient in your own company then you don't need to be part of any group. But if you are you aren't addicted to it or controlled by it. When it doesn't serve you take a walk. You're free.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Icelander]
    #4679683 - 09/19/05 12:09 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I control the social group. I am the alpha tiger, and the chicks dig me cause of it. Want my posse? COME FIGHT ME FOR IT.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Icelander]
    #4679694 - 09/19/05 12:12 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Now I'm thinking about commitment and how bad of a thing it could be.....yet it's looked at as a good thing.

What are the good things about commitment? And whatever they are....do you have to be committed to get the goods?


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Re: Social Groups [Re: looner2]
    #4679699 - 09/19/05 12:13 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

OOH I is soooo scared. Why would I want any of the nonsense you call yours oh enlightend one?


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Icelander]
    #4679705 - 09/19/05 12:15 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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OOH I is soooo scared. Why would I want any of the nonsense you call yours oh enlightend one?




I knew you'd back down. Monica is MINE.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679711 - 09/19/05 12:17 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MJF said:
Now I'm thinking about commitment and how bad of a thing it could be.....yet it's looked at as a good thing.

What are the good things about commitment? And whatever they are....do you have to be committed to get the goods?




So it comes down to what the committment is don't you think? You can answer this yourself. What is good to you is worth your energy. :mushroom2:


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679713 - 09/19/05 12:18 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

MJF said:
Power and Sex.....are those two things responsible for how we maintain our social groups?




Mostly.

The footmen and sheep at the lower rungs do it to fit in and hopefully survive. Those in control and at the higher rungs do it for power and/ or sex.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: looner2]
    #4679718 - 09/19/05 12:19 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

looner2 said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
OOH I is soooo scared. Why would I want any of the nonsense you call yours oh enlightend one?




I knew you'd back down. Monica is MINE.




Been drinking again I see. :grin: Veritas is mine and Monica is nowhere to be seen. :wink:


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Icelander]
    #4679731 - 09/19/05 12:22 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Quote:

looner2 said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
OOH I is soooo scared. Why would I want any of the nonsense you call yours oh enlightend one?




I knew you'd back down. Monica is MINE.




Been drinking again I see. :grin: Veritas is mine and Monica is nowhere to be seen. :wink:




You can have my left-overs.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: looner2]
    #4679737 - 09/19/05 12:23 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Let her post and we can see if shes real. :thumbup:


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4679747 - 09/19/05 12:25 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

What are the good things about commitment?




security  :smirk:


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Ravus]
    #4680020 - 09/19/05 01:15 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ravus said:
Quote:

MJF said:
Power and Sex.....are those two things responsible for how we maintain our social groups?




Mostly.

The footmen and sheep at the lower rungs do it to fit in and hopefully survive. Those in control and at the higher rungs do it for power and/ or sex.




Quote:

Mostly




But it doesn't have to be. My social group dosen't operate on those things hardly at all. Love and spiritual growth are the two things that are most responsible for maintaining my social group.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Icelander]
    #4680451 - 09/19/05 02:30 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah but it's all survival...and Love and spiritual growth help with the power to survive.

What survival purpose does it serve the group to gang up or outcast individuals that seemingly aren't a threat to them?
I'm thinking there is probably always atleast some small threat there. And ganging up also unites the group and promotes conformity...keeping the group loyal and strong. I think separating yourself from another group/person and saying I'm good they are bad may be how the concept Good/Evil started...and its nothing but a conforming survival mechanism.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: MJF]
    #4680895 - 09/19/05 05:24 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Survival? There is no survival. You're dead meat no matter what. :grin: Death is your advisor. Now that that's out of the way you are free to love.


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Re: Social Groups [Re: Icelander]
    #4680914 - 09/19/05 05:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Social groups are mere examples of mob mentality amongst a group of individuals who mold to think as one. It's much easier to voice your opinion to someone else when you've got a half a dozen people telling them the exact same thing you are.

It's basic human instinct to adapt to your pack. Those who cant formulate a thought and mindset for themselves will just have someone else do it for them.


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