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Offlinelemming
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Mycelium drink questions
    #467543 - 11/23/01 12:52 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Hi, sorry for annoying everyone once agai with mycelium extraction, but I was just wondering if the procedure can be done with normal water?
or maybe orange juice...
it's already 9pm and I really feel like trippin late this evening.
Let me know!
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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: lemming]
    #467549 - 11/23/01 12:58 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

O.J. will work, have a nice evening.

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: lemming]
    #467557 - 11/23/01 01:06 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Just make some tea!!!

My preferred method is boil up some whater and tea bags, lower temp. If you have a thermometer try to keep the temp at around 150 F and add your broken up cake chunks. Leave your substrate in the pot at this temp for 10 mins or so. filter off your substrate and put in crushed vitamin C tabs, sugar or honey, and drink.
An odd thing with me is I know how much to drink by the taste. The trip comes on much quicker, but also is shorter in duration.
I tried to do this beacuase erer since i ate 12 grams dry, I always get sick. Its like my body (or maybe subconscious) remembers the craziness I endured that night. I thought tea would not get me sick, but I still do everytime... I have just accepted it(getting sick) as part of MY trip and feel it is a spiritual cleansing. Another funny thing, after eating the 12 g. all I need now is 2 g. for a awesome spiritual experience. This is the only reason I indulge anymore(Spiritual reasons)...

Have Fun...

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: Olgualion]
    #467576 - 11/23/01 01:44 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

humn ok i'll try tea next time...
so what are the dosages i'm supposed to use while making the drink?
I took 1/4 of the colonized substrate and crumbled it up in a normal sized glass of orange juice, the jar was a 1/4 liter one, hope it's enough.
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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: lemming]
    #467590 - 11/23/01 02:15 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

how much of it will you have to use of the cake can u use a brf and verm cake ?

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467596 - 11/23/01 02:24 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Whats the vit c or sugar or honey for and how much do i use ?

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467626 - 11/23/01 03:17 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

I'm interested as well. Would one brf/verm cake be enough for tea? Anywhere I could read more about the subject?


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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: GreasyWilly]
    #467637 - 11/23/01 03:41 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Don't take my word but I think..

the Vitamin C helps extract the stuff :)
The sugar and honey are for taste.

You need like 3 or so cakes...
And there is a tek on the subject called the foolprooftek or something.

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: ShroomNewb]
    #467638 - 11/23/01 03:44 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

3 cakes
Wow Im going to try one

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: GreasyWilly]
    #467648 - 11/23/01 04:05 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Brf/verm cake is fine.
yes.. the vit c is just something that I've always done. I don't know if the vit c really makes a difference. The sugar or honey are to make the taste more bareable.
If I remember correctly the original idea came from a very similar method of extraction, in Stamets' Psilocybin mushrooms of the World, It has been a few years now and I no longer have any of my many books about this "subculture". :(

The amount is a very hard thing to tell someone. I would recommend starting one half pint cake to start for one trip. I am lucky and, at least think, I can tell how much to drink by the taste alone. I often make a large cup and drink only half or two thirds, before saying that'll do it. Its almost like you can smell the potentcy, and once you swallow some you can feel an immediate sensation, almost like a heaviness behind your eyes and it tells you how strong it is...

I'm babbling now...
IOW its tough to judge. When I usually do it, two quarts 3/4 full of colonized BS, and make two or three cups for me and a couple friends.


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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: Olgualion]
    #467656 - 11/23/01 04:16 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

well this is what i did I mix 1 brf/verm cake with 2 tablets that dissolve in water (vitmain tabs) they each have 1000 mg of vitmain c Let them stand for 10 mins now putting it in about letting it boil for 10 minutes the staring then drinking :) it i will tell you if i even trip

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467659 - 11/23/01 04:20 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

hehe it 1 am And i just finished school yesterday Friday :) till 16 of jan so decided to party and try this out :)

Wish me luck

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467660 - 11/23/01 04:22 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Dont boil the water while the substrate is in there! You want to keep it hot, but not boiling! First boil the water with tea only, turn off heat and let sit a few minutes, then break up cakes and vit c in there, cover with lid and put back on very low heat for 10 or so mins. Or even better if you have a thermometer that'll handle it, keep the temp 150 -160 for 10 to 15 mins with the substrate in there.


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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: Olgualion]
    #467680 - 11/23/01 04:55 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck I did it
I feel pretty trippy But i only drank about 80 ml and theres still about 400 ml But the problem the vermiculite is making me puke I havent stopped and i dont know how to filter it out I even use coffe filters :(

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467683 - 11/23/01 04:57 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

and another thing the vermculite is microscope well bigger but it tiny tiny peaces what can i do

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467685 - 11/23/01 04:59 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

it is like dust particals

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467708 - 11/23/01 05:52 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

It can be kind of messy when trying to filter it. You can do one round through a collander, into a bowl, then you'll only be left with pretty small chunks. Put what is now in the bowl back in the pot. Then put a towel in the bowl, but leave the 4 corners hanging out. Dump what is now in the pot onto the towel, and grab the 4 corners of the towel, twist and squeeze out all of the extracted goodies. Repeat if theres still junk in there. One thing that helps is if you don't break the cakes up into tiny pieces, just like a little bigger than marbles works great.


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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: lemming]
    #467815 - 11/23/01 08:49 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

What I highly recommdend is colonising 1 pint jars that are 3/4 full of grain (wheat berries, brown rice, millet, etc) and don't use vermiculite at all. Of course, you need to pressure cooker.

Wait until the first sign of mycelium blobs or pins, and then eat the colonised grain with a spoon! No teas, no vitamin c, no straining , no nothing. Nice, smooth, level 3 trip.


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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: goldtop]
    #467888 - 11/23/01 10:37 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Yug im letting the bitches grow from now on ;) i was sick last night Byt only drank like 1/9 what i had And i just felt stonned

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
    #467951 - 11/23/01 11:17 PM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Dont eat or drink verm!
Bad stuff...
Just use something edible and healthy for the mycelium then either just eat about a half pint or extract the same half pint using ONLY vit. C crystals and/or 100% crannberry juice.
The eating more closely resembles a shroom trip, the extraction a sort of drunk LSD (mild) trip.
The amount used per person varies of course...ENJOY!

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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: FreakyFreddy]
    #468097 - 11/24/01 03:03 AM (22 years, 11 months ago)

Well I tried the drink yesterday and all I got was a very mild Level 2 trip, it really wasn't worth it.
Maybe it was just the doses, I'm gonna try again with some more and keeping it soaked for longer
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Re: Mycelium drink questions [Re: lemming]
    #468163 - 11/24/01 06:31 AM (22 years, 11 months ago)

2 cakes 2 people = level 1. Total waste. Used brf/verm cakes I'll wait next time. I used coffee filters with only mildly annoying verm.
Maybe some day I'll try with different substrate.Cheers.


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