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War with Iran on the way?
    #4675205 - 09/17/05 09:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Former UN weapons inspectors says so...and everything coming from CNN, Fox News, BBC, etc., are that Iran sees nothing wrong with what it is doing.

http://www.countercurrents.org/iran-ritter130905.htm

With Bush's approval sinking as well as the support of the Iraq war, how would they pull a war with Iran off?

I know it's an article on a radical leftist conspiracy site, but they're linking the article. Just relax.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4675231 - 09/17/05 10:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

the answer is a resounding yes..and it should come as no surprise that the reason has nothing to do with nukes either...


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4675435 - 09/17/05 11:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's not gonna happen.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Redstorm]
    #4675492 - 09/17/05 11:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know...a little militarism could help
get george's poll numbers back into a reasonable
space.

if only there were some sort of catalyst event
that could help justify the whole thing...


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4675513 - 09/17/05 11:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not in Bush's term. He's already risked too much; no way is he going to try to get another costly war, otherwise the entire Arabian peninsula would go fucking nuts. Iraq and Afghanistan were rather weak anyway; Iraq we just rolled through like no man's business, and Afghanistan, there wasn't much to roll through anyway. But Iran would possibly be a very different story.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4675840 - 09/18/05 12:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's going to be difficult to convince the American people that it's necessary after Iraq no matter what happens.







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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Learyfan]
    #4675913 - 09/18/05 01:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

That is, unless another WTStag happens.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4676363 - 09/18/05 03:07 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Another scenerio could be; What if Iran invades Iraq? The way things are going over there and with our military way overstretched to the limits, I can see where they would think that it could really be good timing to do it now.

Face it, we do not have the resources to even combat a half assed insurgency let alone a full fledged invasion from a soon to be ( or current??) nuclear power.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: gregorio]
    #4676391 - 09/18/05 03:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not without a draft anyways...

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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Blek]
    #4676420 - 09/18/05 03:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Oh shit, that would be interesting. Could we pull it off? Capturing strategic points in the middle east and eventually taking it over. It's like chess to me right now. Amazing shit.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Blek]
    #4676580 - 09/18/05 04:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

We could prevail without a draft but we would have to resort to widespread aireal bombardment with no concern at all for the loss of noncombatents. Yes, it would have to be massive and widespread. And this is not even considering a limited nuclear option, to which I have been hearing more and more about in the last few weeks, as option in these type of conflicts.

But what if in conjection of an Irianian invasion of Iraq, OPEC pulls it oil off the world market? Would us going nuclear to halt the Irianian invasion then become the option? I know, that is stretching it a bit, but my gut is telling me that Iran is going to make some kind fo move in Iraq.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: gregorio]
    #4676946 - 09/18/05 09:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Another scenerio could be; What if Iran invades Iraq?




The mad mullahs running Iran are crazy, but not that crazy. As it stands now, any country who bombs their nuclear facilities could reasonably be argued to be the aggressors. But if Iran were to invade Iraq, no reasonable person would object to Iraq (and Iraq's allies) retaliating. Does any reader of this forum have any doubt as to what the very first bombing targets within Iran would be?




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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Phred]
    #4677028 - 09/18/05 10:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Iran can't be allowed to build nuclear weapons, period.

They don't necessarily deserve to have a government set-up for them either.

Phred, what would they attack? Just some U.S military base, correct?


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Phred]
    #4677029 - 09/18/05 10:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Phred said:


The mad mullahs running Iran are crazy, but not that crazy. As it stands now, any country who bombs their nuclear facilities could reasonably be argued to be the aggressors.
Phred




I agree that if we went ahead with a pre-emtive strike against Iran that we would be viewed as the agressor. But my theory was that Iran would be the agressor, the invader; and so a massive air strike would only be in retaliation to stop their act of wanton aggression.

And please clarify concerning the Mullahs:
How can you be crazy, but not that crazy?
Especially when the basis for their craziness is based on some rock that fell from outer space?


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: afoaf]
    #4677244 - 09/18/05 12:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

does Iran have a Gulf of Tonkin along it's Iraqi borders?


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4677375 - 09/18/05 01:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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I know it's an article on a radical leftist conspiracy site, but they're linking the article. Just relax.




Heh. The article was written by the infamous Saddam stooge Scott Ritter and originally published by Al Jazeera. With a provenance like that, to dismiss it due to the fact it was reprinted (not "linked") on a Leftie site would be guilding the lily.

As usual, Ritter is unable to make a contradiction-free point. First he claims Iran agrees to inspections designed to verify they are diverting none of their production towards weaponry, then he lambastes America for insisting on inspections that might actually stand some chance of accomplishing that verification.




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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: looner2]
    #4677392 - 09/18/05 01:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Phred, what would they attack? Just some U.S military base, correct?




You're asking the wrong guy. I don't think they're crazy enough to attack Iraq. Ask gregorio.




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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: Phred]
    #4677485 - 09/18/05 02:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Phred said:
Heh. The article was written by the infamous Saddam stooge Scott Ritter and originally published by Al Jazeera. With a provenance like that, to dismiss it due to the fact it was reprinted (not "linked") on a Leftie site would be guilding the lily.



Scott Ritter is not a Saddam stooge. If anything, he's a Clinton stooge. He warned US politicians over Saddam's "weapons capabilities" in the 90's, but was very much against the war when it was on the way of being led by Bush.

And there is absolutely NO WAY Iran would attack Iraq. None. That would be suicide and the US would then have support all around the world to invade them.


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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4677513 - 09/18/05 02:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Scott Ritter is not a Saddam stooge. If anything, he's a Clinton stooge. He warned US politicians over Saddam's "weapons capabilities" in the 90's...




There's a difference between "is" and "was". Ritter ceased being a Clinton stooge a while back and has been a Saddam stooge ever since.

The irony of Ritter -- who before being bought off by Hussein's minions was practically bursting blood vessels at their refusal to let his inspection team inspect where they wanted to -- chastising Bush for insisting on actual inspections of Iran's nuke facilities is so glaring I had to don sunglasses to finish reading his gibberish.




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Re: War with Iran on the way? [Re: bukkake]
    #4677611 - 09/18/05 02:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

**Prediction Alert**

Democrat wins the presidency...a kerry type of person...not a grass roots candidate. Terror attack we hit iraq or syria.


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