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Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Rye Grain, Scales, Vermiculite

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    #4675005 - 09/17/05 08:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

so i worked with whole brown rice once. it formed a ton of gell. anyways im asking for tips, cooking procedures, and anything else you could contribute to using WHOLE grain brown rice. with the whole brown rice the gelled up bricks colonised faster than a rye experiment. this is a valuable substrate and its been under done. i talked to someone that said you can cook it to the point where it doesnt gell up. he said he would pm me his notes but i havent seen them so far. im lookin for methods cooking a measured amount of rice with a measured amount of water in the pc, no simmer. im looking for a simmer method also. soak just takes too long for me. thanks board members!


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4675020 - 09/17/05 08:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Whole grain brown rice is an awesome substrate, read the tek: 9er Tek


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: Holydiver]
    #4675046 - 09/17/05 08:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i want to use this in quart jars, and shake the jars. 9er tek uses vermiculite, i want str8 grain.


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4675052 - 09/17/05 08:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It only uses vermiculite for the breather/barrier, not in the substrate itself. The substrate is "str8 grain". You won't be shaking these in quart jars, it doesn't work like that. The rice forms a solid cake, and you remove it whole as well. No shaking, no shouldered jars, and comes out whole. That's how it works.



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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4675058 - 09/17/05 08:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i want to use this as spawn not final substrate. it colonises faster than rye does. its a valuable substrate and its lacking in scientific experimentation.


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4675172 - 09/17/05 09:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well the rice will break right up so you can use it as spawn as well, hell you can break up brf cakes and spawn them, right?

i agree the few br jars i've done have colonized very quickly as well, i seem to like the rye a little better though.

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Re: whole brown rice [Re: backupwards]
    #4675334 - 09/17/05 10:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ive used powerdered pf tek cakes as spawn before. it works well, and for straw the pf powder sticks to it way better than grains do. but whole grain is easyer on a LARGE scale operation. ryes ok but sometimes it doesnt colonise or colonises slowly. where ive fucked a whole brown rice batch up hard core. gell brick style, and it colonised way faster than the rye jars. i agree that i like rye a little better. but rye is only avalable when im sleeping on my cracked out sleep schedual. thanks for the responses, and i dont have my clear cut answer yet.


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4676166 - 09/18/05 02:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i found this post that was about 5 years old. from my experiment i think this one is rite on.

"Cook the rice before pressure cooking. one part rice to one part water, about 20 minutes on simmer, covered." ive tryed pressure cooking 40 mins and ive tryed 70 mins seems as if it didnt make a difrence how long i pressure cooked, but the simmer was the critial part. ill have to work out how long to pressure cook if the simmer instrucitons he said work.


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4676323 - 09/18/05 02:48 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I use whole brown rice, and it works marvelously. From mylecium inoculate, usually my jars aare fully colonized in 8 - 10 days. I just follow the 9er tek for cooking it. 1 cup rice to 1 half water. The package says to let it simmer for 45 minutes. I always stop cooking(simmering) after about 20 minutes or so; all the water is absorbed. Then continue to pressure cook for 30 to 45 minutes at 15psi. Thus far, I've only lost one jar due to contam using whole brown rice. Just my two cents.

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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4676341 - 09/18/05 02:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i also plan on using this substrate for this liquid culture tek found here. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4167625/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1
its just that whole brown rice is avalable 24 hours a day where rye is not... thanks for your 2 cents! i was trying to cook it at package directions, that was a bad idea!


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Re: whole brown rice [Re: S8N]
    #4775036 - 10/09/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 11 days ago)

this was between pms instead of here. "Yes that is correct. 2:1 rice to water Sorry for being confusing; I was faded . Peace

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"1 cup rice to 1 half water" is that 1 half cup of water. as in 2:1 rice:water? thanks, and good luck with the shroomery!"


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