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OfflineLuke
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Zen
    #4674630 - 09/17/05 06:26 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

For I chase the setting sun. Down to the ocean. Where the waves crash. I bask in sarrow as the sun sets. When will this water take me away? I only want the great Way in my heart. I have been jaded. I find myself for a new day. The new fast mind comes reborn. For I am nothing but a white feather blowing in the wind. I watch my tear droplet, I think is this Zen? As if I never knew Zen at all. For nonsense is truth.


Edited by Luke (09/17/05 06:34 PM)


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4674705 - 09/17/05 06:46 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

waves crashing is a great beginning


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4674775 - 09/17/05 07:09 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

And what exactly is a "zen" "master"?


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4674785 - 09/17/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

Carry on wayward son. They'll be peace when you are done. :heart:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4674916 - 09/17/05 07:57 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

You get an "A" for enthusiasm, but an "F" for application.


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4674936 - 09/17/05 08:02 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

Your nose runs, and your feet smell....

Or is it,

Your feet run, and your nose smells....?


HHhhhmmmmm....


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Re: Zen [Re: psyka]
    #4675189 - 09/17/05 09:44 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

psyka said:
And what exactly is a "zen" "master"?



Well the philosophy of things being guests of a host.

So in some form a Zen master is a guest.


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4675216 - 09/17/05 10:00 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

If you run around calling yourself a "master" you are just massaging your own ego. So you are a Taoist master AND a Zen master?


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Re: Zen [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4675557 - 09/17/05 11:44 PM (12 years, 6 days ago)

why does everyone have to get on the offensive? He just wanted to share a poem..


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Re: Zen [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4675605 - 09/17/05 11:56 PM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
If you run around calling yourself a "master" you are just massaging your own ego. So you are a Taoist master AND a Zen master?




Well when I was calling myself a Taoist master I was quite dilluted and had no proper intention or discipline.
Virtually there is no difference between the two. As they both represent the 'Way'.

But since I have much more discipline I shall only retain the title of Zen master. My Zen master is drugs.

Forgive my dilluted judgement and poor discipline of the past.


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4675668 - 09/18/05 12:10 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

And what makes you so sure, you're on the supposed correct path towards the supposed correct way? How can you be so sure?


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4675690 - 09/18/05 12:15 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Luke said:
Quote:

Huehuecoyotl said:
If you run around calling yourself a "master" you are just massaging your own ego. So you are a Taoist master AND a Zen master?




Well when I was calling myself a Taoist master I was quite dilluted and had no proper intention or discipline.
Virtually there is no difference between the two. As they both represent the 'Way'.

But since I have much more discipline I shall only retain the title of Zen master. My Zen master is drugs.

Forgive my dilluted judgement and poor discipline of the past.




flavor of the week? :rolleyes:

try not to put labels on things, it only puts them farther from what they actually are.

I've learned that drugs are only a crutch, even when you use them for spiritual purposes. You're body makes it's own DMT. True discipline is being able to tap into that source...


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4675695 - 09/18/05 12:17 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

You seem rather conflicted and at disease for a zen master. (no disrespect meant).


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Re: Zen [Re: dblaney]
    #4675942 - 09/18/05 01:19 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

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dblaney said:
You seem rather conflicted and at disease for a zen master. (no disrespect meant).




This is very true. I am a lament compared with other Zen master. A douchebaggery at most. Truly horrible.


Edited by Luke (09/18/05 01:25 AM)


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Re: Zen [Re: Luke]
    #4676056 - 09/18/05 01:47 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

Now thats no way to talk about yourself.  :apple:


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Re: Zen [Re: it stars saddam]
    #4676401 - 09/18/05 03:15 AM (12 years, 5 days ago)

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itstarssaddam said:
Now thats no way to talk about yourself.  :apple:




True, I could say I am the best Zen master in history.


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