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OfflineLuke
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Mara devotee
    #4674124 - 09/17/05 03:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I became a devotee of Mara, Buddhist satan. I devoted my whole life.

See by doing this he will not bother me, will not make me unmindful and will not take me away from the truth. He promised me money, women and cars etc. But I said no, I want mindfulness and protection from him. Mara is very savvy and cunning. After I became a devotee it seems hes helping me and keeping me more mindful. When I was not a devotee he was misleading me and putting impure or wasteful thoughts in my head. He is the originator of unmindfulness.

So virtually I have sold my soul somehow.

Ive been a Zen master for almost a year now. Mara has dilluted me so much in this time, making me sway in other directions and so forth. Even make me lose sight of the discipline and principle. But since I am a devotee of Mara I wont have too worry about this.
I can finally fully enjoy the mindfulness of being a Zen master.

The truth will finally glow now. Rejoyce.


Edited by Luke (09/17/05 03:18 PM)


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4674146 - 09/17/05 03:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Kool dude. You is owned. :hellfire:


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4674169 - 09/17/05 03:29 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

You fool!  Man was not mean to meddle with such things!  :mad2:


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Revelation]
    #4674179 - 09/17/05 03:34 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah. Dude, don't meddle in the affairs of boogy men, you might get splinters in the windmills of your mind. :tongue:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Revelation]
    #4674191 - 09/17/05 03:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Revelation said:
You fool!  Man was not mean to meddle with such things!  :mad2:




It might feel wrong for you as you are not a devotee. For me it feels perfectly fine. Ive never been so mindful, its like im high or tripping.
Because on drugs is when I experience my most mindfulness. But im not on drugs right now and I am very mindful. Its suprising.

For me there is only one Mara.


Edited by Luke (09/18/05 10:30 PM)


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Icelander]
    #4674193 - 09/17/05 03:40 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

under your furry crawling brow!
a silver bow rings up in inches!
you were afraid you'd be the devil's red wife!
but it's all right - god dug your dance!
and would have you young and in his harem!
dress you the way he wants because he never had a doll!
because everybody made him a boy!
and god didn't think to ask his preference!
you can bring your dress and your favorite dog!
and your husband's cane!
and your old spotted hog!
because in this lifetime!
you've got my human gets me blues!!  :mad2:


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Revelation]
    #4674211 - 09/17/05 03:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

BOO! :whoa:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Icelander]
    #4674236 - 09/17/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
BOO! :whoa:




Mara plays the role of supreme being. Its a secret, I should not being telling anyone. He is only deceiving, as he created the concept of Maya. He is also Maya himself. We all know Maya is deceiving. In the end Mara plays a role of a sentient being just as the Buddha. Also Mara has found Nirvana. The thought of total liberation.

But it is true that he is the causer of all evil. But once you become a devotee it will stop making evil for you and he will become friends with you. He is very wise and content.


Edited by Luke (09/17/05 04:03 PM)


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4674249 - 09/17/05 04:00 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

What makes you so sure that there is a "Mara" and that it is separate from anything?


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4674261 - 09/17/05 04:04 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Luke said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
BOO! :whoa:




Mara plays the role of supreme being. Its a secret, I should not being telling anyone. He is only deceiving, as he created the concept of Maya. He is also Maya himself. We all know Maya is deceiving. In the end Mara plays a role of a sentient being just as the Buddha. Also Mara has found Nirvana. The thought of total liberation.

But it is true that he is the causer of all evil. But once you become a devotee it will stop and he will bcome friends with you.





(Tao says WTF) So... Good luck with all that. :grin:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: dblaney]
    #4674264 - 09/17/05 04:05 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

dblaney said:
What makes you so sure that there is a "Mara" and that it is separate from anything?




I am not sure. I must remind myself it is all one.


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4674411 - 09/17/05 04:57 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, props on your newfound minfullness!

Not everyone will take the same path, but ultimatley everyone is searching for the same thing: To return home to the void.

I feel happy for anyone who makes a commitment to bettering their lives, no matter what the process or beliefs might be.

I don't like it when others "fuck up my x-mas" (rain on my parade lol)...so I don't do it to others.

I hope you find what it is you seek...Nah, actually I *know* that one day you WILL! :smile:


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4674414 - 09/17/05 04:59 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Although it is all one, Mara is one of the more persistant negative beings. I say you're going to reap what you have sowed.


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Revelation]
    #4674485 - 09/17/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

:whoa: I thought it was the Loc Ness Monster that was the worst.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


Edited by Icelander (09/17/05 05:24 PM)


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Revelation]
    #4674596 - 09/17/05 06:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Revelation said:
Although it is all one, Mara is one of the more persistant negative beings. I say you're going to reap what you have sowed.




I am simply making an example. Everything is an illusion so why does it matter. All that matters is I am remembering the truth. The truth is Zen. Which Mara has been leading me away from Zen. The whole priniciple ithe meaninglessness. How true Zen is almost mindless. Zen makes you. You do not make Zen.

As a Zen master I am filled with lies and sarrow.


Edited by Luke (09/17/05 06:22 PM)


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4675635 - 09/18/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I understand some of what you are saying. I myself had to walk the road of darkness before I could see the light, but I am no longer devoted to that Sickness. That is a part of my past. I respect it very much, but want no part of it in my life anymore. I found power in my self and in love to achieve the kind of motivation needed for positive spiritual growth. The images of mangled bodies in my mind gave no such strength, and a trickster/deciever will only befriend you in order to gain your trust and stab you in the back later.

Sounds like you are practicing "Pure Land" Buddhism... which is quite separate from Zen. I was really turned off by Pure-Land because it seemed too much like idol worship. Don't spread yourself so thick son. The only thing keeping you from achieving Zen is yourself, and personified deities are first and formost symbols of some aspect of our inner self. No doubt that these symbols are quite powerful, but they are symbols none the less.

If I were you I'd watch my pride and humble myself to the status of "Zen Student". Even the master learns something new everyday, and the student who thinks himself a master cuts himself off from this learning and tends to lead others astray...


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: dr0mni]
    #4675657 - 09/18/05 12:07 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

If I were you I'd watch my pride and humble myself to the status of "Zen Student". Even the master learns something new everyday, and the student who thinks himself a master cuts himself off from this learning and tends to lead others astray...

Well said.


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4676533 - 09/18/05 03:53 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

this reminds me of the guy who thought wishing to be in god's company in heaven was pride and the greatest sin a person could commit, so he devoted his life to all the other evils to make sure he'd go to hell.


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: Luke]
    #4677790 - 09/18/05 04:09 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Don't settle down with a mind state. Keep moving. Keep changing. Use one for time, then discard it for whatever comes along next. Knowing that all is one includes not holding rigidly to one anything.


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Re: Mara devotee [Re: mecreateme]
    #4677979 - 09/18/05 05:03 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

mara is like the devil in the devil
in which case the devil is the nature of associative thought and connections of stimulus to image content from memory;
and mara is the propensity to consider that all mental contents are equal from any source, i.e inner (or memory based) or live feed (sense based).
in a sense there is truth in that, but it pays to keep openning up to "ehhhh...., what's up doc?"
and certainly not latch onto states or contents


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