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    #4666507 - 09/15/05 08:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

well ive smoked 6x extract and almost brokethrough several times but ran out before i could and scince havnt thought about doing it again.. now ive heard from many member from this site that smokeing non extract (just plain foilage ) is somehow how better than extract (which sounds ridiculous when i couldnt even breakthrough with 6x )so i also saw that they sell the foilage a lot lot cheaper.. now is their a way to breakthrough with foilage?


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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666520 - 09/15/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yes the lady salvia is cross tolerent meaning the more you do it the less you need. if u smoke enough everynight for a couple weeks eventually you will need very little which would save you lots of money


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666533 - 09/15/05 08:07 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ahh. soo buying around an ounce of foilage, and doing it over and over again until it produces effects... now how exactly does that work , does it build up in your system or what??


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666561 - 09/15/05 08:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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yes the lady salvia is cross tolerent meaning the more you do it the less you need. if u smoke enough everynight for a couple weeks eventually you will need very little which would save you lots of money




Cross tolerant isn't the term you mean here. Cross tolerant means tolerance develops from other substances also. LSD Mescaline and Mushrooms are all cause cross tolerance. If you do any you are less sensitive to all three.

Salvia shows reverse tolerance. The more you use the less you need.


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Re: salvia [Re: chris92346]
    #4666566 - 09/15/05 08:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

so how does it work


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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666587 - 09/15/05 08:20 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

well im not a scientist, some things you just dont ask


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666604 - 09/15/05 08:24 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666609 - 09/15/05 08:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

you want to know how the reverse tolerence works?


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666627 - 09/15/05 08:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yea


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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666637 - 09/15/05 08:31 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

no idea but it does. if your really that interested go to www.erowid.com and look in the salvia d. vaultsthey might have soemthing. ive never read anything about how it works just that it happens


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666678 - 09/15/05 08:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

:bongload:


....maybe the 6x you got wasn't all that great

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Re: salvia [Re: ThumpaCap]
    #4666687 - 09/15/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

no no some peoplea re anturally more tolernet to her. its very commen. my friend can smoked 2 bowls of 10x and feel nothing while i jsut need a pinch. Also did u hold in the smoke cause that is the msot important thing when smoking salvia


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666693 - 09/15/05 08:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ya i gennerally hold it in for about 15-20 seconds..


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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666702 - 09/15/05 08:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

will one ounce of foilage be enough to build up reverse tolerance , enough to have a full blown experience?


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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666716 - 09/15/05 08:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

what instrument do you use to take her in? i suggest you construct a gravity bong... i have yet to not break thru with the good ol gb


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Re: salvia [Re: theBRINK]
    #4666725 - 09/15/05 08:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

a pipe... but it wasnt that great a pipe and that was probably the reason i screwed up.. anywways im not asking why i screwed up, im just asking how to achieve full results with foilage


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Re: salvia [Re: leafing]
    #4666784 - 09/15/05 09:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

give it time patience one ounce shoudl be enough considereing u almsot broke throug on 6x


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4666826 - 09/15/05 09:16 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

i have never reached anything other than that crazy buzz with foilage... the trick is to get as much smoke in your lungs as possible in that short period of time before you cant really function any more... we used to use a bong that had 2 bowls and take huge hits, hold it in, take another and hold it, then take one more(if possible) and hold it in until we forgot we smoked anything... bongs and gravity bongs are the way to go... with foilage or extract


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Re: salvia [Re: theBRINK]
    #4666834 - 09/15/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

yes bongs are the shit for salvia in my opinion


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Re: salvia [Re: DeathCompany]
    #4667049 - 09/15/05 10:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

There is good salvia leaf and shitty salvia.
6x should be good enough for anyone if its made with the goods.
Otherwise you just may want to try something else entirely.
It is true though that good leaf can do it easily for some people.
I wont even be in the same room with someone smokeing salvia cause I feel it.
So the breaking point is different for everyone. SOme can totaly break through with one massive and proper hit of standard leaf.
For you though, the thread-maker, id suggest a fat toke of both 6-10x in a bong along with some leaf, twice over.
It is true, there is just something about the leaf.
Most importantly, roll up a chunk of leaf and put it in your mouth prior to smokeing. Ive personally had some great experiences with sublingual doses


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