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Mushroom Grows Are losing potency...Help!
    #4664741 - 09/15/05 01:54 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i tried 2.0G of Taz last night and they didn't seem to be as potent as they were on my last few grows. the only thing i can think of is i didn't add straw into the mix this time. would straw make that much of a difference??? i was thinking of adding additives like bone meal to help raise the Nitrogen level in the substrate, would this help boost the potency? what are some other additives to help boost potency besides tryptamines??? any input is appreciated.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4664873 - 09/15/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

ive had that happen to me, tripped my nuts off one time then out of the same batch didnt trip at all.. juts a mild body buz.. i just think that every trip is diffrent and your body takes it diff each time.. i know that dont realy answer your question but its :2cents: .. now if you try them agin and get the same results i might get worried..


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: willmafingerdo]
    #4664910 - 09/15/05 02:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

other people who tried them agreed that the potency is down by almost half.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4664997 - 09/15/05 02:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

how do you store them? always store them in an extrmely dry environment after you have dried them, IE the fridge is NOT an extrmeley dry environment. If the RH of your house is too high, the mushrooms will gain water weight, and when they have water in them, they start to degrade faster and faster.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: Puppet1]
    #4665025 - 09/15/05 02:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Doesnt Coffee add to potency? Im not sure ill look for the thread but i think i seen that on here soemwhere.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: ixitwistedixi]
    #4665300 - 09/15/05 03:33 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i store them with a food saver, but the ones i tried were less than a week old.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4665330 - 09/15/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

oxygen decreases potency, there are teks to dry them using dry ice... but they take a very long time compared to a dehydrator. i am designing some plans for an experiement to make a co2 chamber that my dehydrator fits in so it is drying the guys with co2 instead of oxygen...

also the way they are stored after drying determines if they will remain potent or drop in potency. the teks where the oxygen is replaced with co2 in the container are helpful in preserving potency just as much as keeping them dry.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: theBRINK]
    #4665905 - 09/15/05 05:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

how long since your last trip, when you took the weak ones?

they say every 3 weeks is comfortable but one trip a month is better for reaching full effects.


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: Bamaman]
    #4665920 - 09/15/05 05:46 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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how long since your last trip, when you took the weak ones?

they say every 3 weeks is comfortable but one trip a month is better for reaching full effects.




Yep! Even as little as once a week. Honestly, some flushes work out that way. It's just the wasy it goes. Make sure the fungus is cracker dry before storing also. What's the rest of the substrate?


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Re: Mushrooms losing potency...Help! [Re: theBRINK]
    #4668084 - 09/16/05 01:43 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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so it is drying the guys with co2 instead of oxygen...



co2 is not recomended for long term storage either as it can also oxidize them (as in the "O" in "CO2") You might want to look into a different inert gas.


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Re: Mushrooms Grows are losing potency...Help! [Re: Bamaman]
    #4668794 - 09/16/05 09:20 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Bamaman said:
how long since your last trip, when you took the weak ones?

they say every 3 weeks is comfortable but one trip a month is better for reaching full effects.


last i time tripped was the first week in august. it's not the way i store them, the shrooms them selfs were less than a week old, fresh out of the dehydrator so there is no chance of it being storage. the heat on the dehydrator was 95 degrees so i know it's not that either. i think it was the horses diet or something of the sort, that's why i'm looking for additives.


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Re: Mushrooms Grows are losing potency...Help! [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4668803 - 09/16/05 09:38 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

thenewguy, I think it just happens. Potency varries....


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Re: Mushrooms Grows are losing potency...Help! [Re: mycofile]
    #4668839 - 09/16/05 10:12 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

do you think the straw could have effected the potency that much?? i know straw has roughly 2% of nitrogen, The substrate mixture was 50/50 straw/horse poo. currently i have been useing a 100% poo mixture and that's when the potency seemed to start to degrade.


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Re: Mushrooms Grows are losing potency...Help! [Re: thenewguy05]
    #4668854 - 09/16/05 10:20 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Mycofile is right. Potency varies. I've read posts where Scatmanrav stated that potency increased with each flush, with the 4th flush being the most potent. Maybe that has something to do with it. Mushrooms are funny man, I've tripped differently from the same mushrooms before myself. It just happens sometimes.


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Re: Mushrooms Grows are losing potency...Help! [Re: FooMan]
    #4668862 - 09/16/05 10:24 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Any ideas on additives??? the one thing i know i can get is either bone meal or blood meal.


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