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Why guys don't "get" girls
#4663985 - 09/15/05 08:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think I know the secret of why guys don't understand girls.....
I think its because, everytime we try to explain ourselves, or let you in on something probably really vital to whatever type of relationship we have...you guys are not listening. Your doing something stupid, like watching tv, or staring at the wall or looking at other chicks. I've given up on pointing things out before or after sex, because I know guys are too preoccupied with their dicks at that point, I'm curious if thats what the constatnt preoccupation is Sooo many times, I've explained to my boyfriend exactly what is going on, in "boy" terms and I think he gets it, and a day later he's confused...today he shocked me with "I never knew you were like that, whats gotten into you?" and here I am thinking, like we've been together over a year, how could you not know!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4663989 - 09/15/05 08:19 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mmmmmm....my girlfriend's boobies.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4663995 - 09/15/05 08:21 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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some guys get it Gillette
its not something you can teach someone if they arent receptive
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: goobler]
#4664008 - 09/15/05 08:28 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's not that "guys don't get it", some guys are just stupid, where as other ones are just pussies. You have to look for receptive guys who aren't pussies, Gilette.
They DO exist, god dammit.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664011 - 09/15/05 08:29 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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personally i think the after-sex talk and cuddle to be the one that brings the most insights... but well, there are some things i still don't get... especially the jerk-niceboy dilemma... every girl claimes she wants a nice guy but when you treat her too nice she leaves...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
#4664012 - 09/15/05 08:29 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so what you guys are saying is I've just been surrounded by idiots
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664015 - 09/15/05 08:30 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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More or less
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664019 - 09/15/05 08:31 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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if a guy doesn't pay attention after sex, when all his needs and worries have been wiped from his mind then there is nothing you can do for him...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: In(di)go]
#4664031 - 09/15/05 08:34 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aww but you're like one in a million
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664034 - 09/15/05 08:35 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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My girlfriend is my best friend before she's my girlfriend, that's why I "get" her.
We hung out for months before our hands even touched in a way that suggested romance. I pined for her the whole time, but we just hung out almost every single day for 4 or 5 months getting to know one another. Friendship = k3y.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664070 - 09/15/05 08:48 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some guys will also feign stupidity because they just don't care about you. Enough to put what you say into long term memory storage anyhow...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664074 - 09/15/05 08:50 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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In(di)go said: personally i think the after-sex talk and cuddle to be the one that brings the most insights... but well, there are some things i still don't get... especially the jerk-niceboy dilemma... every girl claimes she wants a nice guy but when you treat her too nice she leaves...
Aww but you're like one in a million
Not true. I like after play more than foreplay. I can talk for hours in the dark after sex or not.
It's not important to treat a girl too nice. It's important to be real and not too needy. If you treat them how you want and not how some ideal says you should, you will quickly find out if this is the one you want to be with.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664082 - 09/15/05 08:52 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gillette said: Ok so what you guys are saying is I've just been surrounded by idiots
Thats what it sounds like.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664096 - 09/15/05 08:58 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Let's put an end to this black-n-white thinking, and use some rationality. There are some guys who get girls, and there are some guys who don't get girls. Plain and simple.
In your case, if you truly have had nothing but guys who are "not listening, doing something stupid, looking at other chicks, etc", then it's pretty clear that you're choosing the wrong personalities for your romantic endeavor.
Ask yourself: Based on what criteria are you choosing your men? Are you in a stage where you feel more comfortable with certain types of guys for reasons that may be related to youthfulness, internal unsteadiness, fear of your own greatness [this is more common than you may think, and is called the Jonah Complex in psych.], etc.? Are you looking in the right places for the kind of man you'd really like to have?
Your attitude will determine your altitude.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664103 - 09/15/05 09:01 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd have to say the reason a lot of guys don't understand girls is because they don't really care. Like Robot said, if a guy didn't get to know you well before you humped, then it's probably useless.
An insight into the male mind...
"Damn that girl looks fine. Let me go lay down my pimpin and get some panty drop action." Humping takes place. Then afterwards the mind enters into a land of lala. It's kind of like going through the relationship motions. Most guys don't fully understand the difference between love and lust so after fucking a couple times they think they're in something meaningful. But if a guy is your friend beforehand, then the relationship just sort of develops. It's not based on one party or the other wanting physical pleasure.
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Girls are sweet girls are neet wiggling toes giggling feet what they think nobody knows I'm listening but damn I need a drink
I think that sometimes we just get caught up in whatever is goin on in our own heads to really take time out for our lil ladies. Bein aware of that is usually enough to give her the attention she deserves. But give her too much and you're no longer a challenge and she's gone. It's the little things that make it fun...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: daimyo]
#4664113 - 09/15/05 09:08 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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And sadly, I know some girls who have an extremely difficult time forming genuine friendships with most guys, simply because they're very hot. They have all these guys who act friendly and all, but with ulterior motives. So unfortunately, some of these girls don't really get that chance to have a genuine, deep friendship with an honest man for years before they become romantic. And you know how that usually goes... That's pretty sad.
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I honestly (any more) could not be in a relationship with anyone but my best and truest friend. Which I have done. She is very little like all the girls I had "fallen in love" with before. We became friends first.
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SkorpivoMusterion said: And sadly, I know some girls who have an extremely difficult time forming genuine friendships with most guys, simply because they're very hot. They have all these guys who act friendly and all, but with ulterior motives. So unfortunately, some of these girls don't really get that chance to have a genuine, deep friendship with an honest man for years before they become romantic. And you know how that usually goes... That's pretty sad.
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SkorpivoMusterion said: And sadly, I know some girls who have an extremely difficult time forming genuine friendships with most guys, simply because they're very hot. They have all these guys who act friendly and all, but with ulterior motives. So unfortunately, some of these girls don't really get that chance to have a genuine, deep friendship with an honest man for years before they become romantic. And you know how that usually goes... That's pretty sad.
Yeah, by then their bitter, jaded and sick of being used.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664158 - 09/15/05 09:29 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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girls get used be cause they let themselves. it's not guys' fault that girls have terrible judgement
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: debianlinux]
#4664170 - 09/15/05 09:30 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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before i get drawn into this slugfest let me clarify that guy = girl = people in mind. i feel that with very very few exceptions, what can be said about one sex equally applies to the other.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: debianlinux]
#4664190 - 09/15/05 09:36 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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not always, but very often indeed
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664239 - 09/15/05 09:48 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gillette said: I think I know the secret of why guys don't understand girls.....
I think its because, everytime we try to explain ourselves, or let you in on something probably really vital to whatever type of relationship we have...you guys are not listening. Your doing something stupid, like watching tv, or staring at the wall or looking at other chicks.
Way to generalize and insult half of the human population Not only are not all guys like that, but there are also women who aren't that open about their relationships... I've met many a woman who would only say the needed words for a quick laid and then go on with their businesses ignoring my (or my friends') feelings. But I digress, my point is that generalizations are bad, mmkay?
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My girlfriend is my best friend before she's my girlfriend, that's why I "get" her.
That's the way it should be IMHO. I was friends with my g/f for a few months before I even tried to kiss her, and even when I started trying she wouldn't let me for another month because she was "thinking about it". We've been together for 10 months now and neither of us regret that wait. It helped us know we were made for each other
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: In(di)go]
#4664258 - 09/15/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hot girls usually get whatever they want from guys. It's whoever can provide what they need at the exact moment they want it. It doesn't help their personality any. A "cool" pretty girl is rare, just like a cool guy with good listening skills is. (what women call listening skills anyway)
I'm not to worried about it anymore... I'm content with being alone, and I think that's why I rarely am alone. The way I see it... Go out to the playground and learn to have fun by yourself and if you look like you're havin fun then the girls will join you. If you like the swings a girl that likes swings will swing with you.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
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i totally agree with you, man... once you learn to be by yourself you rarely are hehehe... and that way you go your way and find a girl that is willing to go her way with you... same interests, same ideas, etc... and the best thing about learning to be by yourself is the fact that you never become needy in a relationship because you know you can be alone...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664285 - 09/15/05 09:59 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gillette said: I think I know the secret of why guys don't understand girls.....
I think its because, everytime we try to explain ourselves, or let you in on something probably really vital to whatever type of relationship we have...you guys are not listening. Your doing something stupid, like watching tv, or staring at the wall or looking at other chicks. I've given up on pointing things out before or after sex, because I know guys are too preoccupied with their dicks at that point, I'm curious if thats what the constatnt preoccupation is Sooo many times, I've explained to my boyfriend exactly what is going on, in "boy" terms and I think he gets it, and a day later he's confused...today he shocked me with "I never knew you were like that, whats gotten into you?" and here I am thinking, like we've been together over a year, how could you not know!
Sounds like you have a shitty boyfriend. Sorry to hear that.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664305 - 09/15/05 10:05 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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but you got to understand us cowboys too.
Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys
Cowboys ain't easy to love and they're harder to hold They'd rather give you a song than diamonds or gold Lonestar belt buckles and old faded levis And each night begins a new day If you don't understand him, and he don't die young He'll probably just ride away
Chorus: Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys Don't let 'em pick guitars or drive them old trucks Let 'em be doctors and lawyers and such Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys 'Cause they'll never stay home and they're always alone Even with someone they love
Cowboys like smoky old pool rooms and clear mountain mornings Little warm puppies and children and girls of the night Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do Sometimes won't know how to take him He ain't wrong, he's just different but his pride won't let him Do things to make you think he's right
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Cowboys sound like very sad little boys who grew up to be sad old men.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Icelander]
#4664340 - 09/15/05 10:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cowboys are sexy.
I'd take a song over a stupid diamond anyday.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Icelander]
#4664341 - 09/15/05 10:17 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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that's why mommas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
#4664355 - 09/15/05 10:21 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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dimonds cut and coal burns.
Cowboys are sad men. But they love the peace of mind nature brings. They love the outdoors and they feel the need to be free of most social obligations people tend to dwell on.
They love a good honkey tonk they love cool crisp nights they love life simply. Others may look at it as sad, but they look at the city and see every one running round in circles as sad.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
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CherryBom said: Cowboys are sexy.
I'd take a song over a stupid diamond anyday.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: In(di)go]
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CherryBom said: Cowboys are sexy.
I'd take a song over a stupid diamond anyday.
I love that
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: In(di)go]
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that rascist cowboy is tellin Niggar jokes again... You know...
How do you smile and wink at a...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: In(di)go]
#4664403 - 09/15/05 10:34 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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LOVE the wink.
But seriously, on topic: I think we all need to realize what we want before we go out there and start looking. If you don't know what you want, it's like going grocery shopping stoned. Everything looks Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. If you make a list beforehand, you don't leave with Double Stuff Oreos instead of whole grain bread.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
#4664410 - 09/15/05 10:36 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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mmmmmmmmm double stuffed.........
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664419 - 09/15/05 10:39 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said: dimonds cut and coal burns.
Cowboys are sad men. But they love the peace of mind nature brings. They love the outdoors and they feel the need to be free of most social obligations people tend to dwell on.
They love a good honkey tonk they love cool crisp nights they love life simply. Others may look at it as sad, but they look at the city and see every one running round in circles as sad.
Those aren't Urban Cowboys and are a rare breed that is mostly long gone. The subject of romantic wishfullthinking. I grew up in farm country. Mostly they want to tame the land and put up barbed wire or wood fencing. Most could care less about wild nature (wilderness) unless they can pack in and shoot something. We had a ranch and farm in the family. My sister and Brother in law raised quarter hourses and did the rodeo's in our area.
He is a redneck marine prick. The ranch work was hard and boring. In the end everyone quit, but kept the cowboy hats for show.
Cowboy is just an image. It has nothing to do with who you are inside. But if you need the image then go for it. Also halloween is comming up soon. So get out them duds and head for the rockin rodeo.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
#4664440 - 09/15/05 10:47 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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haha actually thats a pretty good analogy right there....
guys are like double stuffed oreos, they look good, taste good, and are big enough for some sort of satisfaction, but eventually leave you feeling fat and shitty.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
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Cowgold said: that's why mommas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys
Let em be doctors and lawyers, and such
Thank you GTA, San Andreas
Oh and I agree with everything in this thread about friendship preceding the best relationships
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: blink]
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Gillette said: Ok so what you guys are saying is I've just been surrounded by idiots
ok Blink, your excluded from the idiot category
/me waves
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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said: dimonds cut and coal burns.
Cowboys are sad men. But they love the peace of mind nature brings. They love the outdoors and they feel the need to be free of most social obligations people tend to dwell on.
They love a good honkey tonk they love cool crisp nights they love life simply. Others may look at it as sad, but they look at the city and see every one running round in circles as sad.
I had an antropology class and we read a book about cowboys and thats exactly what we ended up learning about them. Cowboy life sounds like the life for me.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
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Gillette said: haha actually thats a pretty good analogy right there....
guys are like double stuffed oreos, they look good, taste good, and are big enough for some sort of satisfaction, but eventually leave you feeling fat and shitty.
generalisation again!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
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Gillette said: haha actually thats a pretty good analogy right there....
guys are like double stuffed oreos, they look good, taste good, and are big enough for some sort of satisfaction, but eventually leave you feeling fat and shitty.
I'd have to say the same about your gender. Except the fat part.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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And the shitty feeling is usually from listening to them talk about their favorite nail polish.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Anyone can be a vapid idiot. Male or female. That's why we have standards.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4664508 - 09/15/05 11:02 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sometimes I hear girls say something really stupid and it makes me want to vomit my brain.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
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Yeah! That's why I have to avoid public places. Stupidity makes me sick.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4664513 - 09/15/05 11:02 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is that when you chokeslam a bitch?
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Boom]
#4664514 - 09/15/05 11:03 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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You know it!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4664515 - 09/15/05 11:03 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4664560 - 09/15/05 11:13 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is the romantic ideal of what a cowboy should be and that is indeed a very rare thing to find. The lone horsemen who rides into town one in the at sunset one night and all the rest of that. There is nothing wrong with having that ideal because we all need to have some kind of fantasy now. Personally I'd rather be wearing a duster and cowboy hat over a suit anyday. Although I look equally good in either.
As for the actualy topic of the thread the reason why guys don't "get" girls is that both sexes have been conditioned to believe the stereotypes of western culture. Girls read cosmo and expect to find some guy that can;t possible exsit and then try and act and look like some magazine editor and advertisers feel they should look and act like.
Guys have been conditioned to think that it is alright to treat women like objects and play things and that it is alright to act like an ass. The problem being that with these ideals inplanted in our brain when we go out and try and make a meaningful relationship we are already two steps behind because in no way can either of us live up to our expectations of the other.
That and our instant gratification society has us to primed for instant results in everything we do that very few of us are willing to actually take our time and let things develop naturally.
But i just woke up and am rambling.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: In(di)go]
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CherryBom said: Cowboys are sexy.
I'd take a song over a stupid diamond anyday.
Um, such a charming fella, si si si... You cowboys fucks always stealing the girls from us hard working musicians!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664574 - 09/15/05 11:16 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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The key to human interaction (relationships in this case) is listening. Most people don't do it often enough - male or female. Generally, women are better listeners.
"Looking past" certain qualities of a person will lead to destruction.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4664583 - 09/15/05 11:19 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who wouldn't want to sleep with a cowboy I'm looking at you ingo!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
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Another thought I just had... Maybe sexes don't "get" each other because we're not meant to. The reason people get together is to reproduce. That is our main purpose here. Love does not help further this; in fact it hinders it. Every time you get into a relationship you waste time that could be better spent reproducing and furthering our species existence.
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I wouldn't. You can have them. They are mostly redneck republicans who can't think for themselves.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: daimyo]
#4664599 - 09/15/05 11:23 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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TAKE THAT SEED, BITCH. PUMP OUT MY BABIES.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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WildCardsRevenge said: There is the romantic ideal of what a cowboy should be and that is indeed a very rare thing to find. The lone horsemen who rides into town one in the at sunset one night and all the rest of that. There is nothing wrong with having that ideal because we all need to have some kind of fantasy now. Personally I'd rather be wearing a duster and cowboy hat over a suit anyday. Although I look equally good in either.
As for the actualy topic of the thread the reason why guys don't "get" girls is that both sexes have been conditioned to believe the stereotypes of western culture. Girls read cosmo and expect to find some guy that can;t possible exsit and then try and act and look like some magazine editor and advertisers feel they should look and act like.
Guys have been conditioned to think that it is alright to treat women like objects and play things and that it is alright to act like an ass. The problem being that with these ideals inplanted in our brain when we go out and try and make a meaningful relationship we are already two steps behind because in no way can either of us live up to our expectations of the other.
That and our instant gratification society has us to primed for instant results in everything we do that very few of us are willing to actually take our time and let things develop naturally.
But i just woke up and am rambling.
That was acually incredibly insightful...Thanks wildcard
(It's not my fault I love cowboys, I'm a product of western culture. )
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4664686 - 09/15/05 11:37 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i get girls... I get them more than they get themselves. its all because of how women were treated throughout history. For many many centuries, men had control over women to the most part. But now in this century, when women and men are treated "equally" women have the upper hand. That is why its so hard to find the right girl.... because there are not too many of them. Since the dawn of human kind, women wanted security. So they found the strongest man to protect her... But now security is money... Ill give you an example..
Two identical twins go to a party... They roll up at the same time . One in a hoopty station wagon and one in a BMW M3... Which twin do you think will get more women???? They look exactly the same so it cant be because of looks.
So if you are going out looking for a girl, make sure you flail a large wad of cash in front of their face, and they will come flocking..... I am not saying this about all girls... The right girl is the girl who cares nothing about money. but finding that kind of girl is like winning the lottery
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
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Gillette, you are looking for the wrong guys. The right girls are always looking for the wrong guys and so are the wrong girls for that matter...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: danlennon3]
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danlennon3 said: i get girls... I get them more than they get themselves. its all because of how women were treated throughout history. For many many centuries, men had control over women to the most part. But now in this century, when women and men are treated "equally" women have the upper hand. That is why its so hard to find the right girl.... because there are not too many of them. Since the dawn of human kind, women wanted security. So they found the strongest man to protect her... But now security is money... Ill give you an example..
Two identical twins go to a party... They roll up at the same time . One in a hoopty station wagon and one in a BMW M3... Which twin do you think will get more women???? They look exactly the same so it cant be because of looks.
So if you are going out looking for a girl, make sure you flail a large wad of cash in front of their face, and they will come flocking..... I am not saying this about all girls... The right girl is the girl who cares nothing about money. but finding that kind of girl is like winning the lottery
Fuck I won the lottery! Yipee I o ki yay! And I didn't even buy a ticket.
All I did was learn to love myself.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
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Gillette said: I think I know the secret of why guys don't understand girls.....
I think its because, everytime we try to explain ourselves, or let you in on something probably really vital to whatever type of relationship we have...you guys are not listening.
Sooo many times, I've explained to my boyfriend exactly what is going on, in "boy" terms and I think he gets it, and a day later he's confused.
Note: This is not meant as an assault on your motivations or your character. I am merely relaying things that I have noticed about most women. It is possible that I am completely off-base with my assertions.
I wrote the following in a thread yesterday:
To stop women from getting bored with you, do the following:
1. Hold back a lot of yourself. It keeps them interested and it keeps the mystery going. The second you give everything of yourself to them they will get bored. When girls get bored they fuck other guys.
2. You can't be a nice guy all of the time. You need to inject some jerk-like behavior into your repetoire. Be nice 90% of the time, but the other 10% of the time you need to be aloof, moody, or instigate drama. Women say they don't like drama, but most of them do. It gets them excited.
3. You need to have a life outside of your relationship. If you don't, you will probably end up being clingy. Nothing turns women off faster than a guy who is clingy and non-masculine.
From this and other posts that I have seen of yours, it appears as if you have been dealing with a boyfriend who is aloof, just wants some sex, and doesn't "talk" about important things a lot. I surmise that you really crave emotional intimacy and a future with this guy. He hasn't given it to you yet and he acts like he doesn't understand or care. It appears as if you are adhering to a classic girl behavior -- When a guy treats a girl like crap, she pines over him and and will pursue him.
I have some serious questions I want to ask you and I want you to answer honestly:
1. How would you view him if he did understand and he did care? Would you enjoy it at first and then quickly become bored with him?
2. What if he tried to understand and care and he got clingy? Would you like that?
3. Would you really like a super nice guy to be your boyfriend? Would you be as interested in and attracted to a guy who was nice all of the time?
If this guy isn't giving you what you need, then dump his ass (I'm sure that Learyfan would not mind that outcome ). But, you need to realize that with any good there will also come some bad. Compromise is necessary in relationships.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
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WildCardsRevenge said: There is the romantic ideal of what a cowboy should be and that is indeed a very rare thing to find. The lone horsemen who rides into town one in the at sunset one night and all the rest of that. There is nothing wrong with having that ideal because we all need to have some kind of fantasy now. Personally I'd rather be wearing a duster and cowboy hat over a suit anyday. Although I look equally good in either.
As for the actualy topic of the thread the reason why guys don't "get" girls is that both sexes have been conditioned to believe the stereotypes of western culture. Girls read cosmo and expect to find some guy that can;t possible exsit and then try and act and look like some magazine editor and advertisers feel they should look and act like.
Guys have been conditioned to think that it is alright to treat women like objects and play things and that it is alright to act like an ass. The problem being that with these ideals inplanted in our brain when we go out and try and make a meaningful relationship we are already two steps behind because in no way can either of us live up to our expectations of the other.
That and our instant gratification society has us to primed for instant results in everything we do that very few of us are willing to actually take our time and let things develop naturally.
But i just woke up and am rambling.
That was acually incredibly insightful...Thanks wildcard
(It's not my fault I love cowboys, I'm a product of western culture. )
Watch out how far you let that take you. You could become a normal person with normal values living a normal life, having a normal old age ect. Just like most the idelistic youth do, generation after generation.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: danlennon3]
#4664800 - 09/15/05 12:05 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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So if you are going out looking for a girl, make sure you flail a large wad of cash in front of their face, and they will come flocking..... I am not saying this about all girls... The right girl is the girl who cares nothing about money. but finding that kind of girl is like winning the lottery
If you think you can pick up girls with a wad of cash... You'll be chasin the gardener out your window. After a woman gets security then she looks for a good time...
If you make your life about money she will too... and then you're fucked.
The right girl is one of a kind. She'll think the same of me.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
#4664868 - 09/15/05 12:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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alls i know is i am one lucky bastard and if for some godforsaken reason my marriage ends i'll be done with intimate relationships for good.
i have come to the conclusion that i will be the happiest alone.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: daimyo]
#4664915 - 09/15/05 12:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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daimyo said: Another thought I just had... Maybe sexes don't "get" each other because we're not meant to. The reason people get together is to reproduce. That is our main purpose here. Love does not help further this; in fact it hinders it. Every time you get into a relationship you waste time that could be better spent reproducing and furthering our species existence.
But love, through long lasting relationships that maximize child rearing ability, also ensures that the genes you passed on will will be able to be passed on again by your children. Just reproducing does nothing if your children die before they too can reproduce. Its all evolution.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: debianlinux]
#4664942 - 09/15/05 12:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, but there are plenty of woman out there who don't listen. I fancy myself as the best listener i've seen yet... and it's not something i brag about, but it's just me... i'm not much of a talker, especially with new people. With friends i can blab on and on, but usually with other people and especially with girls i let them do the blabbing and just listen. Mainly it's because i think other people have really interesting stuff to say, and i can talk to myself whenever i want...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4664974 - 09/15/05 12:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gillette said: I think I know the secret of why guys don't understand girls.....
I think its because, everytime we try to explain ourselves, or let you in on something probably really vital to whatever type of relationship we have...you guys are not listening. Your doing something stupid, like watching tv, or staring at the wall or looking at other chicks. I've given up on pointing things out before or after sex, because I know guys are too preoccupied with their dicks at that point, I'm curious if thats what the constatnt preoccupation is Sooo many times, I've explained to my boyfriend exactly what is going on, in "boy" terms and I think he gets it, and a day later he's confused...today he shocked me with "I never knew you were like that, whats gotten into you?" and here I am thinking, like we've been together over a year, how could you not know!
Well, true we men are a bit easily distracted at times, and our eyes do thend to wander, but when a female "tells" us something important, we usually miss it because we can't pick up the little subtle hints and clues you use to "tell" us. Admittedly, we are kind of dense in this area, so when you have something to say, just say it! A direct approach is the best approach in this sort of thing.....
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4664976 - 09/15/05 12:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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*sigh*
So children born to single parents, or parents who divorce, have a higher mortality rate? Or are less likely to have their own children?
Basis in fact, please.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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Of course it isn't the case today. However, before human civilization when we were "savages" a child with only one caregiver, generally the mother, would be at a great disadvantage. This would make the mortality rate excedingly high, seeing as a single mother couldn't hunt, gather, and spend time raising children all at the same time.. Love obviously didn't evolve this century, it came about many thousands of years ago. Hows that for fact? Next time do a little critical thinking so I don't have to explain something as simple as natural selection
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
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LOL
I am familiar with Darwinism, I just don't happen to buy the idea that it explains it all.
The savages you refer to lived in tribes, and the members of these tribes shared child-rearing responsibilities. Very evolved, for savages. Try a little anthropology with your Darwinism.
Love is too complex a subject for science to explain.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4665070 - 09/15/05 12:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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playing devils advocate?. or like many of the girls out there completely conditioned to the point she actually believes this and doesn't understand why its happening(picking the wrong type of guys) or at least doesn't want to believe it.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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There is some evidence that suggests monogomy is in our nature. For example, having sex with the same woman increases her chances of getting pregnant (as opposed to her sleeping with random guys).
I hate it when people use the "we're animals so we're supposed to just fuck everything" argument.
What would be the biological/sociological advantage of having a bunch of kids running around without dads? I personally think it's just wrong when a kid is raised by only his mom. It's unavoidable and I give single mothers a lot of credit-- I just think it's bad for their social development. It should be avoided whenever possible. Balance the masculine with the feminine.
I think it's better for society if we have healthy, monogomous relationships and a strong tradition of family. People are more likely to contribute to society if they have a fulfilling upbringing.
Then again, I'm 20 years old so I'm not even considerying monogomy, at the moment. It's just more healthy in the long run.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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A free welfare check.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4665120 - 09/15/05 01:06 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like you.
Some people think uninhibited reproduction is ideal; they should take a look at Africa or some American ghettos.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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Actually I would beg to differ that homo sapiens, and our evolutionary ancestores have ALWAYS lived in tribes/packs. Love probably didn't come about in our species, but at some point it did evolve. And it evolved because the expression of the genes that allowed for it enabled a higher rate of survival among those individuals with that allele. Thus, survival of the fittest. Erroneous traits are generally discarded through time, with evolution.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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If monogamy is based on a strong, loving bond between parents, then I agree that it is the best arrangement for child-rearing.
If it is based on duty, expectations, obligation, guilt, etc...then it creates a toxic atmosphere for children to grow in. Far better for them to grow up with a single parent, IMO.
BTW having sex with one guy doesn't increase your chances of getting pregnant, just having more frequent sex. If a woman is having sex with a different guy every day during ovulation, or the same guy with the same frequency, she has the same chance of conceiving.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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Why guys don't get girls: Testosterone & estrogen levels are a little different.
Ex: A girl sees a guy and thinks about whether or not she could marry him, how the kids would look, the house and the white picket fence.
A guy sees a girl and thinks, man I'd like to bend her over and...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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That's not what I meant. There was a recent study that suggests the female body "recognizes" familiar sperm, and makes conception more likely.
I'll try to find it...
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
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Your conclusions are just fine IF Darwinism explains everything.
What if Love is not a genetic trait, but an expression of the Life force/spirit/soul? Can you still compare it to physical traits which are obviously genetic, and thus subject to explanation through science?
While I find research into the human genome utterly fascinating, I cannot see it as the final answer to "Life, The Universe, And Everything." And the only way that Darwinism can be factually applied to human emotions and behaviors is if everything is genetic.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
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This "I man. I must stick cock in hole!" Bullshit stereotype is just annoying and completely ridiculous.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
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Not all girls are looking for marriage, kids, and the white picket fence. And some guys ARE.
IMO men and women often don't "get" each other because they relate to one another as generalizations/stereotypes instead of unique individuals.
Rather than ask questions and listen to the answers, they assume many things are true about the other person based on their sexual equipment.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
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Please don't tell me that you are thinking about romance and long walks on the beach when you see ahot girl walk by. You would only be kidding yourself.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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Well, being a rational person I don't believe in a life force, spirit, or soul. Everything related to life IS genetic. Of course genetics isn't the end all be all of scientific theory, but it is for biological theory.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
#4665201 - 09/15/05 01:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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The first thing I look for is a good neck.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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Veritas said: Not all girls are looking for marriage, kids, and the white picket fence. And some guys ARE.
IMO men and women often don't "get" each other because they relate to one another as generalizations/stereotypes instead of unique individuals.
Rather than ask questions and listen to the answers, they assume many things are true about the other person based on their sexual equipment.
I'm talking about first impressions. I'm not saying that my statement is the absolute truth. We are all individuals with our own needs and desires. My first thoughts when I see a girl are "could I fuck her?" It may not be pretty or politically correct, but it's being straight up.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
#4665224 - 09/15/05 01:24 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like a kind mouth.
The kind I wanna stick my dick in!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
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If I saw this girl:
this is what I would say....
Randalflagg: Hi there. I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a nice and sensitive guy. I enjoy talking about my feelings. I like looking at the stars and having candle-lit dinners with that special someone. I am not thinking about sex at all right now...I swear!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
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A free welfare check.
Funny but incorrect. A welfare check doesn't afford anykind of decent or easy life for a single mother nowdays.
If she wants the cash she needs to divorce a wealthy husband.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4665240 - 09/15/05 01:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahhh I see now. Too bad you've closed your mind so young.
Science and logic are wonderful tools, but nothing compares to an open mind for facilitating full experience.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
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I bet most girls are concentrating on physical ppearance when they first meet a guy too. BUt they probably do take into account things like quality of clothing and what not, while men tend to just look at her ASSets
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
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Veritas said: Not all girls are looking for marriage, kids, and the white picket fence. And some guys ARE.
IMO men and women often don't "get" each other because they relate to one another as generalizations/stereotypes instead of unique individuals.
Rather than ask questions and listen to the answers, they assume many things are true about the other person based on their sexual equipment.
I'm talking about first impressions. I'm not saying that my statement is the absolute truth. We are all individuals with our own needs and desires. My first thoughts when I see a girl are "could I fuck her?" It may not be pretty or politically correct, but it's being straight up.
So true. So Veritas what are a girls first thoughts. Be honest.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4665255 - 09/15/05 01:28 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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My last girlfriend and I never really talked about much at all. We pretty much just watched movies and fucked. We both decided it wasn't going anywhere, after a couple months, and broke up. I certainly wasn't an ass to her, and she wasn't to me, but we just had too wildly different interests to find any common ground (except sex, but that's always common ground). With nothing to talk about and nothing to do together the relationship can't progress very far at all.
Not all guys are assholes, and not all assholes are trying to be an ass. Maybe you and your bf just don't have enough in common? Nothing to talk about? You never know, maybe he thinks you're being a mega bitch to him! It's way too easy to misunderstand other people, especially from the opposite sex.
If you're just in it for the sex, then put the emotions aside and just make booty calls. If you're in it for more, for an actual relationship and companionship, then cut him loose and keep looking!
But who am I to speak on such things? I barely understand you females as is
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4665259 - 09/15/05 01:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm glad some of us are still "keeping it real" and not trying to bullshit Gillette and the other women on here with that "I'm really a nice guy" bullshit angle to try to win their heart over.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4665263 - 09/15/05 01:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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If thinking logically means closing my mind, its fine by me. I just tend not to believe in fanciful, unsubstantiated BS. If you could give me evidence that there is a soul, spirit, or life force I would gladly change my view.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Icelander]
#4665269 - 09/15/05 01:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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A free welfare check.
Funny but incorrect. A welfare check doesn't afford anykind of decent or easy life for a single mother nowdays.
A free place to live (HUD), free food every month (food stamps), free medical care (Medicaid), free education for their children (public education), and the ability to NOT have to pay any federal taxes.
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
#4665271 - 09/15/05 01:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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So it is true for you, as a unique individual who happens to be male.
As a unique individual who happens to be female, I do not look at a man I've just met and think marriage-family-white picket fence. Nor do I assess his net worth by examining his clothes, watch, shoes and car.
If he's really fine, I might think: "boy, I'd like HIM to bend me over and...."
See how effective generalizations are at predicting behavior?
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4665281 - 09/15/05 01:31 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not sayin sex isn't on my mind, but when it comes to a relationship I would rather have a 6 with a personality than a 10 and a oh face. I can have sex for hours but I'm not gonna fuck all day everyday. I look for a girl that I wouldn't mind wakin up to, or talking to. I pass up sex all the time cause I don't want to take the chance of her gettin pregnate and havin to deal with that chick for the rest of my life.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4665296 - 09/15/05 01:33 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't give you evidence of your soul. That is a research project which must be conducted on a personal level. Considering it a possibility is a great start.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4665302 - 09/15/05 01:34 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I meant, "how does it benefit the species, as a whole". If we're talking about the individual, then sure it'll benefit somebody on welfare.
It's harming our species, so it's not a true benefit.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
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Cowgold said: I'm not sayin sex isn't on my mind, but when it comes to women I would rather have a 6 with a personality than a 10 and a oh face. I can have sex for hours but I'm not gonna fuck all day everyday. I look for a girl that I wouldn't mind wakin up to, or talking to. I pass up sex all the time cause I don't want to take the chance of her gettin pregnate and havin to deal with that chick for the rest of my life.
Translated into English: I haven't gotten laid in so long. I barely ever talk to girls. I masturbate a lot. I have no game.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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It's harming our species, so it's not a true benefit.
It offers no long term benefit. But, mating a lot does offer short term benefit (i.e. pleasure).
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4665311 - 09/15/05 01:37 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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All of the government benefits you mentioned are available to ALL low-income families, not just those headed by single mothers.
If a single mother makes "too much" money, she does not qualify for anything but the free Public Education for her children.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FooMan]
#4665314 - 09/15/05 01:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Why guys don't get girls: Testosterone & estrogen levels are a little different.
Ex: A girl sees a guy and thinks about whether or not she could marry him, how the kids would look, the house and the white picket fence.
A guy sees a girl and thinks, man I'd like to bend her over and...
the example you used for a girl is one where she seeks a relationship
the one for the guy is a one timer piece of ass
it's an unfair example because women and men both want relationships as much as they both want a piece of ass.
your examples are stereotypes and that's all.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4665315 - 09/15/05 01:38 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're missing the original point. People try to apply evolution to a promiscuous lifestyle. Evolution happens in the long-run.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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I blame society. Men have this "macho" image to uphold and woman are primarily controlled by their emotions. This is a generalization and not the rule. But I find it to be largely accurate. Men are taught from a young age that having and showing emotions are for the weak. There are no classes in school about how to communicate with the opposite sex. Likewise, society has distorted the female form.. many are simply largely concerned with 'looking good' and being run by emotions. Then you have the whole communication thing, which we both communicate differently. Then you have this fucking clusterfuck of dating rules... society 'standards and expectations' and the mind games that go with it, all of which I want to have no part in whatsoever. All in all I think it's a very wide spectrum of things. Which is why it's so hard to find a woman I am compatible with.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4665329 - 09/15/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Veritas said: I can't give you evidence of your soul. That is a research project which must be conducted on a personal level. Considering it a possibility is a great start.
I've already completed the project. I got an A. Every time I've considered the existence of some magical life force logic and rational thinking kicks in and quickly expels the idea.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
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A free welfare check.
Funny but incorrect. A welfare check doesn't afford anykind of decent or easy life for a single mother nowdays.
A free place to live (HUD), free food every month (food stamps), free medical care (Medicaid), free education for their children (public education), and the ability to NOT have to pay any federal taxes.
Sounds like a sweet deal to me.
Really, a sweet deal? One of my girlfriends had to try and take care of a couple of kids on welfare. Her life was miserable. She was always about broke. No extras, hand me down or Good Will. It ain't a free ride. I used to think it was too until I saw it in action.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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Populations and survival rates of infants were much lower back when our genes were being formed. There was much more land and many more resources available for people. I don't think evolution took into account current population densities. Mating and reproduction back then needed to happen a lot and there were no adverse consequences like there are today.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
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If you're missing on the magic of life.. you're missing out. Logic and rational thinking is only one hemisphere of the brain. We have two. Life is very magical.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
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OK, as long as you're happy with your belief system, it is working for you. Spirituality is not for everyone at all times in their life. If you develop dissatisfaction or have experiences you cannot explain, you may check into the whole "soul" idea again later.
I am not trying to convert you to my POV, just encouraging you to keep an open mind.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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mantis said: You're missing the original point. People try to apply evolution to a promiscuous lifestyle. Evolution happens in the long-run.
Evolution has to be triggered by an outside influence.
IE the ice age, ect.
(From I understand of evolution)
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Shroomism]
#4665383 - 09/15/05 01:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes! The questions can be just as wonderful as the answers.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Shroomism]
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Hasn't the male form also been distorted though? I agree with the rest of what you said but I think that societal ideals of beauty are askew for both sexes.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Boy did this thread get jacked. I hope Gillette answers my questions that I posted.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Shroomism]
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If you're missing on the magic of life.. you're missing out. Logic and rational thinking is only one hemisphere of the brain. We have two. Life is very magical.
I'm not missing out on the spice of life at all by not believing in a soul. If anything I'm more free due to my belief that we are all ephemeral beings.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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I'm not talking about the "origin of mankind" evolution. I'm talking about evolution of a single species over a span of generations. I'm saying that, even if natural selection was obvious in humans, fucking like rabbits wouldn't be beneficial in the long-run.
Evolution should not be applied to humans because it doesn't take social factors into account.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: mantis]
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Well I don't know much about the subject, and I don't think I'd get very far talking about it with a bio major.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Evolution has to be triggered by an outside influence.
IE the ice age, ect.
(From I understand of evolution)
Evolution is actually more like a continuum than a means to an end for survival.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4665432 - 09/15/05 01:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want to discuss evolution, start a new thread...but please get this one back on topic!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: trendal]
#4665445 - 09/15/05 01:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry, I took that idea and ran like Sebastian Coe
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: trendal]
#4665450 - 09/15/05 01:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm sorry, this thread was jacked pretty bad.
Back to how guys don't listen, and whatnot.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4665455 - 09/15/05 01:57 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Veritas said: So it is true for you, as a unique individual who happens to be male.
As a unique individual who happens to be female, I do not look at a man I've just met and think marriage-family-white picket fence. Nor do I assess his net worth by examining his clothes, watch, shoes and car.
If he's really fine, I might think: "boy, I'd like HIM to bend me over and...."
See how effective generalizations are at predicting behavior?
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
#4665472 - 09/15/05 02:00 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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FooManShroom said: Why guys don't get girls: Testosterone & estrogen levels are a little different.
Ex: A girl sees a guy and thinks about whether or not she could marry him, how the kids would look, the house and the white picket fence.
A guy sees a girl and thinks, man I'd like to bend her over and...
the example you used for a girl is one where she seeks a relationship
the one for the guy is a one timer piece of ass
it's an unfair example because women and men both want relationships as much as they both want a piece of ass.
your examples are stereotypes and that's all.
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Veritas said: Not all girls are looking for marriage, kids, and the white picket fence. And some guys ARE.
IMO men and women often don't "get" each other because they relate to one another as generalizations/stereotypes instead of unique individuals.
Rather than ask questions and listen to the answers, they assume many things are true about the other person based on their sexual equipment.
I'm talking about first impressions. I'm not saying that my statement is the absolute truth. We are all individuals with our own needs and desires. My first thoughts when I see a girl are "could I fuck her?" It may not be pretty or politically correct, but it's being straight up.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Twister]
#4665501 - 09/15/05 02:07 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Likewise, society has distorted the female form..
Hasn't the male form also been distorted though? I agree with the rest of what you said but I think that societal ideals of beauty are askew for both sexes.
Yes, that was implied in the first sentence. The male form has been extremely skewed. Most males are born and raised to be cold and emotionless.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4666039 - 09/15/05 04:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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never talk to a man after sex. its soooo annoying. we need at leadt 30mins to recover.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4666047 - 09/15/05 04:21 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea, sex is awesome!
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KingOftheThing said: never talk to a man after sex. its soooo annoying. we need at leadt 30mins to recover.
Ditto, I'm a girl, but I don't want to be fucking talked to either.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: tonygirl1983]
#4666143 - 09/15/05 04:39 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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one more annoying time chicks talk...when im getting head and a chick stops to ask "is it ok" "am i doing good" or something else. breaks my god damn concentration! if it wasnt good i would say something!!! the one time youd think they would shush
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It is so rude to talk with your mouth full!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: tonygirl1983]
#4666799 - 09/15/05 07:09 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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i didnt read this thread, i just wanted to say
women are from mars,
men are from earth.
thank god im an astronaught.
that is all.
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: My girlfriend is my best friend before she's my girlfriend, that's why I "get" her.
We hung out for months before our hands even touched in a way that suggested romance. I pined for her the whole time, but we just hung out almost every single day for 4 or 5 months getting to know one another. Friendship = k3y.
Yup, that's the key right there. My girl and I did the same thing, three months almost everyday with no anything. We both wanted eachother and our mutual best friend knew but didn't tell the other one. Funny situation, but either way that's the way to do it. Still together after two and a half years.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Icelander]
#4667370 - 09/15/05 09:07 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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SHEIKofSHIITAKE said: dimonds cut and coal burns.
Cowboys are sad men. But they love the peace of mind nature brings. They love the outdoors and they feel the need to be free of most social obligations people tend to dwell on.
They love a good honkey tonk they love cool crisp nights they love life simply. Others may look at it as sad, but they look at the city and see every one running round in circles as sad.
Those aren't Urban Cowboys and are a rare breed that is mostly long gone. The subject of romantic wishfullthinking. I grew up in farm country. Mostly they want to tame the land and put up barbed wire or wood fencing. Most could care less about wild nature (wilderness) unless they can pack in and shoot something. We had a ranch and farm in the family. My sister and Brother in law raised quarter hourses and did the rodeo's in our area.
He is a redneck marine prick. The ranch work was hard and boring. In the end everyone quit, but kept the cowboy hats for show.
Cowboy is just an image. It has nothing to do with who you are inside. But if you need the image then go for it. Also halloween is comming up soon. So get out them duds and head for the rockin rodeo.
Your generalising. You dont have to have a cowboy hat to be a cowboy. I ride a steal horse and sometimes my pigme poney. You are what you is and im just saying im some cowboy. Other times im a buisness man sometimes a waiter, sometime a laborar, all the time hillbilly most of the time farm boy. Work on a dairy farm as a kid and a horse farm the rest of my child hood id say you dont know anything other then your view point on the whole thing because you arnt a cowboy.
I also dont think i said much of anything about being urban.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: CherryBom]
#4667483 - 09/15/05 09:26 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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when a gurl says 'call me tomarrow' it really means 'call me in a few days'
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: 40oz]
#4719932 - 09/27/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude, it's because most guys are bitches. I read this seduction stuff at http://www.YouThenGirls.com, and sure enough it works. It's made to use on immature girls (25 and under)...Girls are crazy
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4719969 - 09/27/05 01:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't get girls because I chose not to. An average girl - I can't stand them. They are lucky they have a vagina, otherwise they would not be in demand.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: novorua]
#4719978 - 09/27/05 01:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Cowgold]
#4720477 - 09/27/05 02:59 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm so damn tired of this whole "I wish I could find a good man..."or, my favorite, "Chivalry is dead. Gentlemen just don't exist anymore". That is sooo bullshit. The "gentleman" you are wasting time trying to find, has been in your life for years. He's that fat, sweaty, bald dude that sits and listens to all your probs.
You know the one. That male friend that you would never give the time of day to, cuz he drives a Volvo station wagon, or is wearing the same shirt he wore on his 19th b-day. The guy that even sits listening how you let your jerk boyfriend ass fuck you cuz you thought it would bring you two closer.
Ladies, if you want a "good" man, quit wasting your time fucking jerks that drive decent cars, wearing the name brand clothes, and so on. Give that fat dude a chance. After all, he has done the dirty work already, listening to you naive ladies, lol.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Gillette]
#4720686 - 09/27/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey now, I know that a lot of guys don't get it, but I'm lucky to be in a friendship with a guy who gets it. And I have met a lot of guys that get it. If all else fails, hang out with gay guys, No kidding! My best friend is gay and we hang out all the time, and he just understands me. We hang out at a bar and check out guys and it's nice because when I'm having a ruff day, I can just go hang out, smoke a bowl and get a hug and a kiss after I pour my hart out.I tell him he's the best girlffriend I'll ever have.
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I don't get many girls, I think it's cause I'm just weird. Besides, tons of guys that are horrible listeners get girls all the time. Popular assholes get tons of girls.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Worldbridger]
#4720723 - 09/27/05 03:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's all about quality, not quantity World. Don't worry it'll all work out when you find a great one. The trick is to have that asshole guy side but at the same time treat the girl like a princess. They eat that shit up, it's like attraction overload...putty in your hands.
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blackroselove said: Hey now, I know that a lot of guys don't get it, but I'm lucky to be in a friendship with a guy who gets it. And I have met a lot of guys that get it. If all else fails, hang out with gay guys, No kidding! My best friend is gay and we hang out all the time, and he just understands me. We hang out at a bar and check out guys and it's nice because when I'm having a ruff day, I can just go hang out, smoke a bowl and get a hug and a kiss after I pour my hart out.I tell him he's the best girlffriend I'll ever have.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: sublime40oz]
#4720754 - 09/27/05 03:42 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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sublime40oz said: It's all about quality, not quantity World. Don't worry it'll all work out when you find a great one. The trick is to have that asshole guy side but at the same time treat the girl like a princess. They eat that shit up, it's like attraction overload...putty in your hands.
I wouldn't say to act like an asshole, it's all in the act and confidents as a whole you wear. (sorry for the pun)
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FungusMan]
#4720763 - 09/27/05 03:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am dating my best male friend, who drives a Volvo station wagon, is a great listener, wears old favorite T-shirts most of the time, and is much older than I am. (Though not fat, bald, or sweaty. )
Guess I wised up, hmm?
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4720784 - 09/27/05 03:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think most relationships I hear conversatino doesn't get across practically at all. Guy or girl. Too much arguing. It's crazy to watch people put on such an ego in a relationship to get in fights over silly things. Why not just have them as a sex partner if that's the case.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Worldbridger]
#4720884 - 09/27/05 04:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey sweetie!! I'm in and out, how you doin'?
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What I don't get is why a lot of women seem to seek out the biggest asshole they can find, date him for a while, get abused by him and break up. Then afterwards, they bitch that ALL men are like that....
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: FungusMan]
#4721005 - 09/27/05 04:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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FungusMan said: I'm so damn tired of this whole "I wish I could find a good man..."or, my favorite, "Chivalry is dead. Gentlemen just don't exist anymore". That is sooo bullshit. The "gentleman" you are wasting time trying to find, has been in your life for years. He's that fat, sweaty, bald dude that sits and listens to all your probs.
You know the one. That male friend that you would never give the time of day to, cuz he drives a Volvo station wagon, or is wearing the same shirt he wore on his 19th b-day. The guy that even sits listening how you let your jerk boyfriend ass fuck you cuz you thought it would bring you two closer.
Ladies, if you want a "good" man, quit wasting your time fucking jerks that drive decent cars, wearing the name brand clothes, and so on. Give that fat dude a chance. After all, he has done the dirty work already, listening to you naive ladies, lol.
That fat, sweaty, bald dude would be well-served to start working out. Being fat and sweaty is your owned damned fault. Nobody, male or female, finds fat and sweaty attractive. Bald is genetic and nothing can be done about that.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Le_Canard]
#4721011 - 09/27/05 04:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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The same reason men choose women based solely on looks, then find out they are with someone they don't even like, dump her and bitch about how all women are shallow bitches...
in the end, they don't have to be responsible for the failure of the relationship, and they don't have to take the risk of revealing their true self to another human being.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4721018 - 09/27/05 04:29 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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toilet duck your much more smart than a lot of girls I know, maybe we should go on a date : )
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4721023 - 09/27/05 04:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Veritas said: The same reason men choose women based solely on looks, then find out they are with someone they don't even like, dump her and bitch about how all women are shallow bitches...
Well said.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4721277 - 09/27/05 05:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Veritas said: The same reason men choose women based solely on looks, then find out they are with someone they don't even like, dump her and bitch about how all women are shallow bitches...
in the end, they don't have to be responsible for the failure of the relationship, and they don't have to take the risk of revealing their true self to another human being.
Good point, although my experience has taught me that looks aren't everything. Both good looking men and women tend to be rather vain and self-centered, I've found, although there are exceptions to this.
Having said that, I knew one women who really wasn't bad looking at all, and she hooked up with an abusive asshole. The guy literally beat the shit out of her, breaking several bones in her face and throwing her out of a window. Of course, after she got out of the hospital, she obtained a restraining order. This lasted for all of 3 months until (you guessed it) she went right back to him. This is a rather extreme case, to be sure, but in my 30 some-odd years I've seen many examples of this....
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Le_Canard]
#4721294 - 09/27/05 05:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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We usually seek the love that feels familiar to us, even if it is painful. It's an uphill battle to choose someone who offers healthy loving if you've learned about love from the ill.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: Veritas]
#4722343 - 09/27/05 08:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Veritas said: We usually seek the love that feels familiar to us, even if it is painful. It's an uphill battle to choose someone who offers healthy loving if you've learned about love from the ill.
Translated into English: Treat us women like crap! We love it!
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4722377 - 09/27/05 08:55 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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www.nomarriage.com
Make it your bible.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: novorua]
#4722504 - 09/27/05 09:20 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Make it your bible.
A man who has my cynical heart.
Check out www.intellectualwhores.com
Good shit.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: novorua]
#4722671 - 09/27/05 09:45 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: RandalFlagg]
#4722688 - 09/27/05 09:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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novorua said: www.nomarriage.com
Make it your bible.
A man who has my cynical heart.
Check out www.intellectualwhores.com
Good shit.
haha! very nice, i have not come across this site until now.
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Re: Why guys don't "get" girls [Re: novorua]
#4723509 - 09/28/05 12:22 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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guys and girls are just different
girls many times have preconcieved expectations of how things should go
guys want booty
meet somewhere in the middle..all good
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